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Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:09 PM ET


They are not! The only players other GMs are interested in are Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Patches, PK and Price. It is obviously a non starter so NO TRADES. Drafting, player development and PATIENCE is all Hab fans can hope for.

- Champ


PATIENCE so that the players can get tired of putting up with the Media frenzy of MTL and demand to be traded to other teams after they let in 9 goals in a game
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 9:15 PM ET
PATIENCE so that the players can get tired of putting up with the Media frenzy of MTL and demand to be traded to other teams after they let in 9 goals in a game
- Meeqsb


Yes the media is a frenzy! It's like being a Yankee. When things are good, there is no place better, when things are bad, you want to get out of dodge as fast as you can.
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Dec 3 @ 9:29 PM ET
Yes the media is a frenzy! It's like being a Yankee. When things are good, there is no place better, when things are bad, you want to get out of dodge as fast as you can.
- Champ


Like Ellsbury?
w1nman
Colorado Avalanche
Location: spokane, WA
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:30 PM ET
Just as a side question, why do a lot of the Avs fans when a trade rumor comes up immediately think we're trading Parenteau? What am I missing? He's our best natural winger, and him and MacK are literally our only right hand shots. Plus before Duchene got hurt, that 90-9-15 line was completely unstoppable, easily one of the top 5 lines in the league.

He's signed to a very reasonable contract and appears to be somewhat underrated around the league, just doesn't seem like someone that you trade.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:33 PM ET
Yes the media is a frenzy! It's like being a Yankee. When things are good, there is no place better, when things are bad, you want to get out of dodge as fast as you can.
- Champ


What the hell is a Yankee? You mean like Baseball? Who cares about 9+ innings of unathleticism and boring? Baseball is like a POS cabin in the middle of the woods that the realtors try to sell as "rustic", its not any good but golly does it sure have some history. Lmao even Jonah Hill in money ball was more entertaining that the actual sport itself. The only reason its still around is because players can get paid tens to hundreds of million of dollars to hit a ball 2 to 3 times a game and dont have to worry about cardio.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:39 PM ET
Just as a side question, why do a lot of the Avs fans when a trade rumor comes up immediately think we're trading Parenteau? What am I missing? He's our best natural winger, and him and MacK are literally our only right hand shots. Plus before Duchene got hurt, that 90-9-15 line was completely unstoppable, easily one of the top 5 lines in the league.

He's signed to a very reasonable contract and appears to be somewhat underrated around the league, just doesn't seem like someone that you trade.

- w1nman


I think it comes to 2 things, redundancy and underperformance. With RoR and Duchene playing so well together and with Tangs in the line up there is no real "good fit" for PA anywhere in the line up. The 90-9-15 line doesn't work that great because all 3 guys play there best when they have the puck on their stick a majority of the time.

Also this season he is even on +/- on a team with like a +23 goal differential and he has been underperforming. As numbers go.

If the Avs decide to keep RoR as Duchene's winger long term (which I feel would be the right option) it just comes down to he is a very good player without any good fit on the team. Him and Duchene had amazing chemistry these past few years but as of now it looks like RoR has taken his spot.

Its not so much that we think we are trading him for any reason, but Roy is trying to mold this into a team that fits his image of a cup winning team and he is just more likely than other possible candidates.
Avs-Ice
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Boulder, CO
Joined: 04.14.2010

Dec 3 @ 9:40 PM ET
Just as a side question, why do a lot of the Avs fans when a trade rumor comes up immediately think we're trading Parenteau? What am I missing? He's our best natural winger, and him and MacK are literally our only right hand shots. Plus before Duchene got hurt, that 90-9-15 line was completely unstoppable, easily one of the top 5 lines in the league.

He's signed to a very reasonable contract and appears to be somewhat underrated around the league, just doesn't seem like someone that you trade.

- w1nman

I don't think many Avs fans want to trade Parenteau it's other fans inquiring.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 9:47 PM ET
I think it comes to 2 things, redundancy and underperformance. With RoR and Duchene playing so well together and with Tangs in the line up there is no real "good fit" for PA anywhere in the line up. The 90-9-15 line doesn't work that great because all 3 guys play there best when they have the puck on their stick a majority of the time.

Also this season he is even on +/- on a team with like a +23 goal differential and he has been underperforming. As numbers go.

If the Avs decide to keep RoR as Duchene's winger long term (which I feel would be the right option) it just comes down to he is a very good player without any good fit on the team. Him and Duchene had amazing chemistry these past few years but as of now it looks like RoR has taken his spot.

Its not so much that we think we are trading him for any reason, but Roy is trying to mold this into a team that fits his image of a cup winning team and he is just more likely than other possible candidates.

- Meeqsb


That being said, if they can parlay Parenteau into a solid D.....they are better off!
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:55 PM ET
That being said, if they can parlay Parenteau into a solid D.....they are better off!
- Champ


Possibly, the avs are definitely a work in progress. However to date if you look at the Benoit signing and the trade rape that occurred with the Flames that brought us Tangs and Sarich for 2 players who should be bought out it is apparent that roy and Sakic know what they are doing. I couldn't be more ecstatic with how this year has gone and about the future of this team.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:56 PM ET
I don't think many Avs fans want to trade Parenteau it's other fans inquiring.
- Avs-Ice


He is one of my favorite players, I get to talk to the guy almost every other day and he couldn't be nicer. I am just pointing out that it makes a decent amount of sense.
ducks31
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Junction City, OR
Joined: 12.02.2006

Dec 3 @ 9:56 PM ET
What, no Flyers rumor?
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 10:20 PM ET
Possibly, the avs are definitely a work in progress. However to date if you look at the Benoit signing and the trade rape that occurred with the Flames that brought us Tangs and Sarich for 2 players who should be bought out it is apparent that roy and Sakic know what they are doing. I couldn't be more ecstatic with how this year has gone and about the future of this team.
- Meeqsb


Futur looks bright!
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 10:31 PM ET
Futur looks bright!
- Champ


So how do you feel about

Col: Pa (3 more years) , Mcginn (RFA) - 5.75 mil

MTL: Eller, Bourque, Gorges/Tinordi - 9.5mil+ (assuming Eller gets raise)

Free's up center spot for Gal, then MTL can trade Plecs and has money for PK
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 3 @ 10:34 PM ET
So how do you feel about

Col: Pa (3 more years) , Mcginn (RFA) - 5.75 mil

MTL: Eller, Bourque, Gorges/Tinordi - 9.5mil+ (assuming Eller gets raise)

Free's up center spot for Gal, then MTL can trade Plecs and has money for PK

- Meeqsb


I think that is not a good deal for the Habs.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 11:00 PM ET
So how do you feel about

Col: Pa (3 more years) , Mcginn (RFA) - 5.75 mil

MTL: Eller, Bourque, Gorges/Tinordi - 9.5mil+ (assuming Eller gets raise)

Free's up center spot for Gal, then MTL can trade Plecs and has money for PK

- Meeqsb


I would rather get O'Reilly to replace Eller and Pleks eventually.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:09 PM ET
I would rather get O'Reilly to replace Eller and Pleks eventually.
- Champ


You wouldn't get RoR unless PK or Pacs was involved
jillann
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
Joined: 06.19.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:13 PM ET
Montreal's GM's and scouting director Trevor Timmins are terrible, How do you lose in the first round in Five ganes to a team like Ottawa, then Thing Briere and Murray are going to make you a better club?? Gotta have Less smurfs, not more..
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:14 PM ET
I think that is not a good deal for the Habs.
- golfingsince


Fair, although Cap relief is expensive right now, and the Habs have the highest cap hit out of any team. Gionta will fall off and save them 5 mil but they will still need to resign Markov and PK will be looking for 5-6mil raise and so will Eller. Not to mention Gal down the road in a year.

Trading away Bourque and Gorges to get their cap hits off the books would be huge and they would probably go for less than market value and MTL has too many centers as is.

With the cap raising they could be fine but I would say neither of those 2 players are worth what their cap hit is, or at least thats what I have been hearing from MTL fans.

Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:16 PM ET
Montreal's GM's and scouting director Trevor Timmins are terrible, How do you lose in the first round in Five ganes to a team like Ottawa, then Thing Briere and Murray are going to make you a better club?? Gotta have Less smurfs, not more..
- jillann


Which is weird cuz you guys have Dudley who is generally great at that type of thing.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:27 PM ET
You wouldn't get RoR unless PK or Pacs was involved
- Meeqsb


So why would you get Eller or Tinordi?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:31 PM ET
Fair, although Cap relief is expensive right now, and the Habs have the highest cap hit out of any team. Gionta will fall off and save them 5 mil but they will still need to resign Markov and PK will be looking for 5-6mil raise and so will Eller. Not to mention Gal down the road in a year.

Trading away Bourque and Gorges to get their cap hits off the books would be huge and they would probably go for less than market value and MTL has too many centers as is.

With the cap raising they could be fine but I would say neither of those 2 players are worth what their cap hit is, or at least thats what I have been hearing from MTL fans.

- Meeqsb


Eller will get nowhere near 6 million. PK's raise will be maybe 5 million. The cap will rise with the new TV deal, and Markov will get about the same money. I think the Habs will be fine with the cap and if not they can move a guy like Bourque for relief.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:44 PM ET
So why would you get Eller or Tinordi?
- golfingsince


Tinordi is just a wish lol. I see eller more as a really good 3rd line C rather than a top 2 so that one is up to you.

Also RoR is way above either of them in terms of value imo.

Although everyone is entitled to their own opinion, thats just mine.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:46 PM ET
Eller will get nowhere near 6 million. PK's raise will be maybe 5 million. The cap will rise with the new TV deal, and Markov will get about the same money. I think the Habs will be fine with the cap and if not they can move a guy like Bourque for relief.
- golfingsince


Meant to say Eller will be looking for a raise in general. Not that amount. Last I heard PK was looking for 8mil a year.

Also why I listed Bourque was for relief. Same Gorges with Tinordi in the system.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:47 PM ET
Tinordi is just a wish lol. I see eller more as a really good 3rd line C rather than a top 2 so that one is up to you.

Also RoR is way above either of them in terms of value imo.

Although everyone is entitled to their own opinion, thats just mine.

- Meeqsb


I think the issue is that they are both young players that the franchise would like to keep. Not a whole bunch of teams willing to deal away youth at the moment.
DutchCanSaveUs
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 07.07.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:51 PM ET
Tellin' ya.. IF it has legs..

Staz/McGinn >>

<< Eller/Pleks.. Gorges, pick, prospect.

2 for 4, all makes sense.

RoR is bringing Subban if thats a deal somehow. You guys don't watch enough Avs games to know how valuable/good RoR is then.

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