'or something'

You must think Statsny is a real pos if you're so bummed on getting him.

He has more pts than any C on your team and a better FO% right now, and missed a couple games recently.

Instant upgrade over anyone you currently have save for "Maybe" Eller, whom still hasn't completely blossomed into a guy you could trust 100% of the time, imo, like Statsny.

Staz has a Stanley Cup ring and multiple other hardware from winning in big tournaments.

He's only 28. It's not like he's 30 fukking 5.
- DutchCanSaveUs

Wtf?

Simply saying the Hawks proved they deserved their cup last year.

Subban has been 'this awesome' for what.. a year or two now? He has yet to prove anything past that.
- DutchCanSaveUs

The hawks pproved they deserved their cup by winning the cup.

Same with subban,

What difference does 2 seasons ago have to do with how good a player is today

I'll venture out and say Avs could use a player like Josh Gorges. He's reliable defensively and blocks alot of shots (the type of player Roy would want) but he come with a $3.9 million salary for another 4 years. Not sure Montreal want to part ways but they have to resign Markov and Subban for next year and that by itself could cost the Habs over 12 millions for next year. Also, Lars Eller must resign and he should get a healthy raise. I know it's 4 players for 2 but Gorges could be part of it. Don't know what the Avs' 4th line looks like but Ryan Whyte is playing great hockey.
- andrest

We're comparing an entire team to a defenseman?
- hscesq

HE'S THAT GOOD!!!

I can't answer that and I don't know if it will happen but you got to admit by the way he is playing, he has potential to do so.
- Tripple_B9

Okay but the reason why I asked, is that he isn't a point per game defenseman and probably won't ever be. To even get top 10 in the record books, you'd have to play 20+ seasons now at less than a ppg, which is unrealistic for his playing style. He's a solid 1500 points away from making a dent in a record so probably hold off on that talk for at least a decade.

I can't answer that and I don't know if it will happen but you got to admit by the way he is playing, he has potential to do so.
- Tripple_B9

Yeah, Ray Bourque had 1579 career pts.....I don't think he'll come close.

Whichever ones Dion sets before he retires.
- hscesq

Rude

Wtf?
- Garnie

Ebay

- Garnie

He is.... compared to previous seasons.

Moen, Brierre, Murray and Parros for Stastny, Tanguay, and Sgarbossa

Okay but the reason why I asked, is that he isn't a point per game defenseman and probably won't ever be. To even get top 10 in the record books, you'd have to play 20+ seasons now at less than a ppg, which is unrealistic for his playing style. He's a solid 1500 points away from making a dent in a record so probably hold off on that talk for at least a decade.
- PotvinFan

Yes your right.
I guess I got carried away a little. All I was trying to say is PK is not going to be traded for a couple of Avs players.

I guess Sabres fans can rule out a trade with the Kings...
- jochfr

I'm hearing they're interested in Weber.

Yes your right.
I guess I got carried away a little. All I was trying to say is PK is not going to be traded for a couple of Avs players.
- Tripple_B9

Definitely not, unless their name is Duchene or Mackinnon.

Will PK ask for the max contract? He just might, which won't fly in Colorado.

Bournival for O'Bryne...wait that already happened, stupid Sherman

Definitely not, unless their name is Duchene or Mackinnon.

Will PK ask for the max contract? He just might, which won't fly in Colorado.
- PotvinFan

I see 8m/8yrs for Subban. It could go higher but I hope not. I think the next big question for Habs will be if they give him the "C"on the jersey as Gionta will not be resign.

I see 8m/8yrs for Subban. It could go higher but I hope not. I think the next big question for Habs will be if they give him the "C"on the jersey as Gionta will not be resign.
- Tripple_B9

I think I'd look at Karlsson and Pietrangelo's contracts as a comparables. Obviously Subban brings an element to his game that neither Karlsson nor Pietro so doesn't (physicality) and has a more refined defensive game than Erik, but I don't think that justifies a 1.5 million raise over those two. Upon second thought, Doughty is probably the closest comparable and he only makes 7 million.


I'd say 7-7.25 for 8 or something close to that. The best Dmen in the league (Suter, Weber, Chara, etc) are still making in the 7s.

The Kings have discussed a defensemen on the Sabres roster", pretty sure that was a typo and should have read, "The kings have dissed defensemen on the Sabres roster"

Moen, Brierre, Murray and Parros for Stastny, Tanguay, and Sgarbossa
- sudburyboy

Hahahahahaha.

No. Not even close.

I think Tanguay would be going back to Montreal most likely.

I can't answer that and I don't know if it will happen but you got to admit by the way he is playing, he has potential to do so.
- Tripple_B9

Go look up the numbers bourque and Coffey put up. How can subban break records if he won't ever come close to those two player's average seasons.

Price for Kovalenko, Rucinsky and Thibault

Price for Kovalenko, Rucinsky and Thibault
- GrayEyeGlances

Why would they trade their goalie?

I see 8m/8yrs for Subban. It could go higher but I hope not. I think the next big question for Habs will be if they give him the "C"on the jersey as Gionta will not be resign.
- Tripple_B9

If they think that would keep him from leaving, they would.

Why would they trade their goalie?
- willschulme

guess that one flew over your head huh

guess that one flew over your head huh
- DDM-Coga

Whoops. I only know Price there. I assume the other 3 are bad?