They beat Washington.
- burn

Oh..

Good times...

LOL i dont mind him.. but lets face it..

a highschool coach serving out his probation for a DUI could of won the cup with that anaheim team
- Dozzer

Gordon Bombay -Ducks fly together!!!!

Burn there is a reason 50 shot games rarely happen. Because they are train wrecks.
- scotch_tape

I'll take 50 shots from the point with no traffic vs what been happening recently (uncontested shots from the slot, cross seam passes ect)

Look at a couple of the goals last night.

1 was a weak shot from the point, off a turnover. It hit Reilly's leg and went in the net.. Not a shot from a great scoring area, but it went in. Same as the 3rd goal, weak shot from the corner, tipped in.

Poor defensive play will get you in trouble every game. It is the tender that has been bailing the team out, to this point.

When Detroit was on top a couple of years ago, they would give up under 20 shots a game.. Dominant team.

The leafs were out corsi'd against Washington ..... I'll take that game 7 days a week. They played well defensively limiting scoring chances, they have plenty if high quality scoring chsnces themselves, work ethic top notch.


I'll take that any time.
- burn

the leafs beat washington cause the goaltender stood on his head

thats it thats all.

its the only thing corsi cannot account for

LOL i dont mind him.. but lets face it..

a highschool coach serving out his probation for a DUI could of won the cup with that anaheim team
- Dozzer

He's already in Wilson territory for me. Having Orr/FML on a 4th line protected by other decent players is fine, when you have Orr SMithson FML AS a line together, is a huge problem. they have 0 points in 37 games combined, and are a huge liability, yet he puts them on shortly after we tie the game against a top possession team and oh will you look at that, the puck is in the back of our net.

How has he not seen this yet?

Not when we had a healthy team ...

and even then, how many games have we had a full top 6 (zero). I would imagine that for at least half our games we have been without 2 of our top 6 and 3 of our top 9.

The effect is felt not only on the top lines but also on the 4th line.

How is Liles not better than some of our D?

How do Orr and Maclaren have a position on the team. They are bringing absolutely zero to the table?

Does Carlyle get a free pass for icing the most fundmentally awful team in the league.

How is this ANY different from the Ron WIlson Leafs?
- Aetherial

I dont really buy the injury excuse..the leafs are not the only team without some of their top players.

I posted many times that the leafs last season were 1 win difference from the Ron wilson team the season before over 48 games.

the leafs beat washington cause the goaltender stood on his head

thats it thats all.

its the only thing corsi cannot account for
- Dozzer

Can I tell you a stat that may get you riled up a bit?

Can I tell you a stat that may get you riled up a bit?
- peddy-93

Go for it.

He's already in Wilson territory for me. Having Orr/FML on a 4th line protected by other decent players is fine, when you have Orr SMithson FML AS a line together, is a huge problem. they have 0 points in 37 games combined, and are a huge liability, yet he puts them on shortly after we tie the game against a top possession team and oh will you look at that, the puck is in the back of our net.

How has he not seen this yet?
- peddy-93

because he still thinks its 1995

the leafs beat washington cause the goaltender stood on his head

thats it thats all.

its the only thing corsi cannot account for
- Dozzer

Nope. Leafs out chanced the caps that game.


Caps with 50 shots that game scored 1 (off a weird bounce)... Clb had a lot less shot wins 6-0. Why? Because they gave up way more, WAY MORE scoring chances than the Washington Game. Just about every goal clb scored they game was a breakaway of 2-1... I think maybe only one of 2 were from the slot.

Can I tell you a stat that may get you riled up a bit?
- peddy-93

oh i am not riled up...the leafs fall has gotten to the point that I have gone into full on numb mode

because he still thinks its 1995
- Dozzer

Therrien does that too sometimes. Putting his "energy" line on the ice after allowing or scoring an important goal.

If fails most of the time.

Nope. Leafs out chanced the caps that game.


Caps with 50 shots that game scored 1 (off a weird bounce)... Clb had a lot less shot wins 6-0. Why? Because they gave up way more, WAY MORE scoring chances than the Washington Game. Just about every goal clb scored they game was a breakaway of 2-1... I think maybe only one of 2 were from the slot.
- burn

really?

anytime a goalie faces 50 shots its bad.. period.

also i dont agree cause in the third the grabo line was all over the leafs.. constantly driving them back.. then the leafs starting playing passicvely in their own end and collapsing too much

then ovie scores..

the game wouldnt of gone to OT if it wasnt for the constant offensive pressure from the caps.

the leafs had no business winning that game. none at all.

Currently 4 points up on a playoff spot

The leafs are bad
- senstroll

It's realistically more like 5. Because of division seedings, if NJ or Carolina pass the Leafs, and the Rags or Caps don't, one of those fall out, not the Leafs. All four of those have to pass the Leafs. Really, it's the Sens chasing. And if you've seen them, you'd feel a little better.

I dont really buy the injury excuse..the leafs are not the only team without some of their top players.

I posted many times that the leafs last season were 1 win difference from the Ron wilson team the season before over 48 games.
- senstroll

Normally I agree.

I have to admit though that this year, between injuries and suspensions they have probably been hit harder than any other team.

The point is not the number of injuries or suspensions... it is that it is always to real important guys.

Think of it this way...

Look at the team last night. If that was the roster they had decided on coming out of training camp, would we even be mentioning playoffs.

If THAT was our regular NHL roster, we would be in the discussion for a lottery pick.

Therrien does that too sometimes. Putting his "energy" line on the ice after allowing or scoring an important goal.

If fails most of the time.
- Pecafan Fan

an energy line is okay if there is some skill there as well.

i like the idea of having one enforcer.. but thats it.

oh i am not riled up...the leafs fall has gotten to the point that I have gone into full on numb mode
- Dozzer

Well, still gonna say it.

Last night, when Gardiner was on the ice, shot attempts were 20-17 in favour of Toronto. When he was on the bench, 54-15 for SJ. Wowza.

Therrien does that too sometimes. Putting his "energy" line on the ice after allowing or scoring an important goal.

If fails most of the time.
- Pecafan Fan

An energy line and a line who doesn't know how to play hockey are 2 different things.

It's realistically more like 5. Because of division seedings, if NJ or Carolina pass the Leafs, and the Rags or Caps don't, one of those fall out, not the Leafs. All four of those have to pass the Leafs. Really, it's the Sens chasing. And if you've seen them, you'd feel a little better.
- prock

The Leafs losing streak could very easily reach 12 games. If that is the case WE absolutely will be the ones chasing. Is there anything to suggest that we would make the playoffs in that case?

People forget that even when we were winning, we were playing poorly.

really?

anytime a goalie faces 50 shots its bad.. period.

also i dont agree cause in the third the grabo line was all over the leafs.. constantly driving them back.. then the leafs starting playing passicvely in their own end and collapsing too much

then ovie scores..

the game wouldnt of gone to OT if it wasnt for the constant offensive pressure from the caps.

the leafs had no business winning that game. none at all.
- Dozzer

Leafs scored more goals and had more chances, but ok

Normally I agree.

I have to admit though that this year, between injuries and suspensions they have probably been hit harder than any other team.

The point is not the number of injuries or suspensions... it is that it is always to real important guys.

Think of it this way...

Look at the team last night. If that was the roster had decided on comign out of training camp, would we even be mentioning playoffs.

If THAT was our regular NHL roster, we would be in the discussion for a lottery pick.
- Aetherial

I believe the Canes have been without Skinner and Semin ..

Well, still gonna say it.

Last night, when Gardiner was on the ice, shot attempts were 20-17 in favour of Toronto. When he was on the bench, 54-15 for SJ. Wowza.
- peddy-93

the one thing gardiner does do well is carry the puck out of the zone..

its after and before that then i am not so impressed

Normally I agree.

I have to admit though that this year, between injuries and suspensions they have probably been hit harder than any other team.

The point is not the number of injuries or suspensions... it is that it is always to real important guys.

Think of it this way...

Look at the team last night. If that was the roster had decided on comign out of training camp, would we even be mentioning playoffs.

If THAT was our regular NHL roster, we would be in the discussion for a lottery pick.
- Aetherial

Every team has injuries, and every team has ebbs and flows. The Leafs have been hammered so far this year, hopefully it starts to go through an "ebb" soon, and it helps them out.

an energy line is okay if there is some skill there as well.

i like the idea of having one enforcer.. but thats it.
- Dozzer

At this point...

I would settle for an energy line that has some ENERGY!

I could even forsake most of the skill.

Our 4th line is absolutely horrible. There has to be players on the Marlies who could play better than that.