Im sure youd want him to fill a hole in your back end
- jbold

Pusher...
- Woderwick

I just want people to enjoy the internetz ad free...

Who cares? Both players wont make much of a difference
- jbold

Just tired of seeing Ashton. The dude is terrible

Ok. Would you do a 1st and gardiner?

I'd prefer to keep gunnar...he's our 2nd best dman.
- Pen15

I think gunnar is a bottom pairing defenseman, and if you consider him our 2nd best then this team is in deep deep poop

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- SofaKingBored

Thanks for the fix man........ I was jonesing

I think gunnar is a bottom pairing defenseman, and if you consider him our 2nd best then this team is in deep deep poop
- faceto27

wow. just wow.

EDIT:

Averages about 20min of ice per game....plays against other teams best forwards...and is a + player...

I think gunnar is a bottom pairing defenseman, and if you consider him our 2nd best then this team is in deep deep poop
- faceto27

If you put gunner on a team like chicago, hes #4 or #5 at best

I just want people to enjoy the internetz ad free...
- SofaKingBored

Sure the first few times are free... until addiction sets in then whammo, charge them for their fix.

wow. just wow.
- Pen15

its true though, if you wanna compete with the big boys, put a guy like gunner on a team like a chicago and see where he falls

Just tired of seeing Ashton. The dude is terrible
- TonkaPhaneuf

Yeah hes crap, just trade him to the avs already

If you put gunner on a team like chicago, #5 at best
- Mapleleafs_91

Fixed

I think gunnar is a bottom pairing defenseman, and if you consider him our 2nd best then this team is in deep deep poop
- faceto27

100% correct

you dont think a dan girardi would help fill a lot of holes on the back end?
- Pen15

yes, I do. I meant instead of Kulikov. Girardi would be awesome.

Fixed
- faceto27

Legit its true, if you have a guy like gunner on another team that would be #5 or marked very low in the rankings of defenders, then your team has some big issues on defense

its true though, if you wanna compete with the big boys, put a guy like gunner on a team like a chicago and see where he falls
- Mapleleafs_91

He's proven he can eat minutes and play against other teams best forwards....his TOI and +/- are proof of that.

Sure, on chi he'd be a 3/4...but on the majority of NHL teams he's a solid #2/3.

He's proven he can eat minutes and play against other teams best forwards....his TOI and +/- are proof of that.

Sure, on chi he'd be a 3/4...but on the majority of NHL teams he's a solid #2/3.
- Pen15

Hes not a 3, id take Hjarmalsson over him any day. At best #4

Hes not a 3, id take Hjarmalsson over him any day. At best #4
- Mapleleafs_91

Fine....he's a #4 (even though Hjarmalsson is arguable) on the cup champs....

I think it's safe to assume he's a #2/3 on most other NHL clubs.

Carl Gunnarsson is not a #2/3 defenseman on most teams, and shouldn't be. He's an ideal 4th D who can play the minutes you give him, but his defensive side isn't strong enough to warrant how bad he is in the other zones.

Fine....he's a #4 (even though Hjarmalsson is arguable) on the cup champs....

I think it's safe to assume he's a #2/3 on most other NHL clubs.
- Pen15

Fine....he's a #4 (even though Hjarmalsson is arguable) on the cup champs....

I think it's safe to assume he's a #2/3 on most other NHL clubs.
- Pen15

yeah arguably he probably is but dont compare to poop teams compare to top teams that you will be facing in the playoffs, teams like boston, chicago, pens, etc

wow. just wow.

EDIT:

Averages about 20min of ice per game....plays against other teams best forwards...and is a + player...
- Pen15

Dion's carrying him...Dion's carrying everyone on the backend this season.
I expected Gunnar to be more this season being healthy, but I'm starting to doubt he is. Or, he's become complacent with his nice new contract. D- for Gunnar.

yeah arguably he probably is but dont compare to poop teams compare to top teams that you will be facing in the playoffs, teams like boston, chicago, pens, etc
- Mapleleafs_91

Ok...where does he fit on Boston....and on the pens?

Again....easily a 3/4 on both teams.

Dion's carrying him...Dion's carrying everyone on the backend this season.
I expected Gunnar to be more this season being healthy, but I'm starting to doubt he is. Or, he's become complacent with his nice new contract. D- for Gunnar.
- mykokes

Gunnar > mykokes

Dion's carrying him...Dion's carrying everyone on the backend this season.
I expected Gunnar to be more this season being healthy, but I'm starting to doubt he is. Or, he's become complacent with his nice new contract. D- for Gunnar.
- mykokes

You can't actually believe dion is single handedly shutting down other teams best line.

Dion's carrying him...Dion's carrying everyone on the backend this season.
I expected Gunnar to be more this season being healthy, but I'm starting to doubt he is. Or, he's become complacent with his nice new contract. D- for Gunnar.
- mykokes

He is a guy that eats minutes. That is good and all but he doesn't contribute offensively much, his defense has been shaky, been blocking alot of shots which is good, and is easy to knock off the puck if your a bigger forward nor is an aggressive threat.