yeah, i know.. i just have a hard time with fans believing players owe them something.

while there is some merit to that line of thinking.. there has to be a cut-off point for fan expectation as well.
- Dozzer

Yup.

I always blame Douglas Murray. Or George Parros.
- Pecafan Fan

You forgot Eller.

Isn't that what Papa George is there for? Teach him some manners - it's for his own good...right.
- Woderwick

he's too much of a clown to learn any manners
some people can't be helped
avery, schremp, subban

pernel karl?
- big_dion

Aye b'y

You forgot Eller.
- Elbows15

Only sometimes.

Actually, I don't have a problem with Eller. I just think people tend to overrate that guy.

Only sometimes.

Actually, I don't have a problem with Eller. I just think people tend to overrate that guy.
- Pecafan Fan

He is what he is. A decent 2C, but by no means a 1C. Having said that, he's still young, and I'd probably take him over Bozak in a heartbeat

i wouldnt know.

guaranteed contract kind of tells me its unnecessary
- Dozzer

Ontario labour laws allow for time off, not sure how many days though, also the fact the players are unionised likely has an agreement for such matters.

Edit, nvmnd, you were talking pay, thought he meant entitlement to time off.

Slowly getting better......He isn't as bad as he was, but Gleason may be a better fit?
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Is Gleason back from his injury?

When I was a kid, my brother played some pretty high level hockey. There was a psycopath on his team that got expelled for life, from what was then the MTHL (now GTHL I think), for getting in a fight, and when the guy went down, he started jumping up and down on him.

If I remember correctly, it was a former NHLers kid too. One of the Esposito brothers seems to ring a bell. Italian name for sure.
- prock

Holy poop
- Badge

You know what, I remember now. I'm almost certain it was one of the Mahovlich kids, not Esposito.

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Is Gleason back from his injury?
- faceto27

Returning from a lower body injury next game.

Id rather not have him and have that 1M in capspace still there oh btw if we did NOT sign ranger, we could of had liles in the lineup as only 925K is taken from his salary
- Mapleleafs_91

Well, you're wrong in that. Very wrong. Unless you plan on going with a short roster, it makes no difference in cap hit.

Listen, due to only 900K coming off the cap when you send someone down, bringing Liles up, and sending Ranger down, has absolutely no effect on the cap. None. Exact same cap hit.

Returning from a lower body injury next game.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Leaf brass probably waiting to see how he looks for a few games once he is back before pulling the trigger on the Liles deal.

Is Gleason back from his injury?
- faceto27

Some would think Jackie Gleason would be better than Ranger.

Slowly getting better......He isn't as bad as he was, but Gleason may be a better fit?
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Doesnt matter, i still dislike him

Leaf brass probably waiting to see how he looks for a few games once he is back before pulling the trigger on the Liles deal.
- faceto27

I'd say you're probably right.....

But the trade is bigger than Liles,

Like Gardiner and Skinner Bigger.

Well, you're wrong in that. Very wrong. Unless you plan on going with a short roster, it makes no difference in cap hit.

Listen, due to only 900K coming off the cap when you send someone down, bringing Liles up, and sending Ranger down, has absolutely no effect on the cap. None. Exact same cap hit.
- prock

925K is taken of liles contract, 925K of rangers contract. No difference as we are still struck by liles cap hit regardless.... thats what i meant and we would not be short of roster because liles is there over ranger then

I'd say you're probably right.....

But the trade is bigger than Liles,

Like Gardiner and Skinner Bigger.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Lies

Some would think Jackie Gleason would be better than Ranger.
- Woderwick

And awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay we go

Lies
- Mapleleafs_91

It's spelled Liles man....

I'd say you're probably right.....

But the trade is bigger than Liles,

Like Gardiner and Skinner Bigger.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

I've been thinking the same thing, except i'm a little leary of Skinner and his concussion problems

925K is taken of liles contract, 925K of rangers contract. No difference as we are still struck by liles cap hit regardless
- Mapleleafs_91

Exactly. So, trying to claim that Ranger's $1M contract is the reason Liles was sent down is completely wrong. He was sent down because Ranger, and every other Leaf dman was deemed to be better than him. No other reason. the only dman you can blame for Liles being sent down is Liles.

Kyle Cicerella‏@KyleTheReporter18m
Spott on Liles: He’s like an extra coach. I walk into the room with a few notes on my card with what to say and he’s already said it...

Maybe he can help out Carlyle a bit...

Exactly. So, trying to claim that Ranger's $1M contract is the reason Liles was sent down is completely wrong. He was sent down because Ranger, and every other Leaf dman was deemed to be better than him. No other reason. the only dman you can blame for Liles being sent down is Liles.
- prock

But ranger sucks

Kyle Cicerella‏@KyleTheReporter18m
Spott on Liles: He’s like an extra coach. I walk into the room with a few notes on my card with what to say and he’s already said it...

Maybe he can help out Carlyle a bit...
- peddy-93

Liles future coach