in this scenario reinhart is off the board

so you left with ekbald small drop off to the otehr forwards. AN established prospect + 2 1st is greater than Ekbald at a spot that you dont need. Not to mention lets be honest with Ekbald the Oilers dont turn into a playoff team over nigh that will be a top 5
- hubie

AN established prospect? You haven't given any specifics on a theoretical trade your purposing...

Ekblad is a blue chip D man you take him and worry about how to move a lesser talent for additional worth later

IMO dalcolle would be the yak and galy would be the reinhart

Reinhart is very complete the others arent so complete but will be. 2 top 10 picks in 15 draft with 2nds would get us there very quickly
- hubie

del colle plays some what like galchenyuk ..


Edit : looked at your post wrong

I love me some hate boobs
- RynoBull

NObody wants happy boobs

AN established prospect? You haven't given any specifics on a theoretical trade your purposing...

Ekblad is a blue chip D man you take him and worry about how to move a lesser talent for additional worth later
- SiloCity

Earlier in the day put
Yak+"4" + 2015 1st
for
#2 2 2nd rd's

could even toss in Leduc or non up next young d men

AN established prospect? You haven't given any specifics on a theoretical trade your purposing...

Ekblad is a blue chip D man you take him and worry about how to move a lesser talent for additional worth later
- SiloCity

At some point you have to stop taking defensemen. This team cannot score. They can't wait until 2015 to address the need for top 6 forwards.

You are valuing the pick more than the player. For example. 2012 Edmonton takes Nail Yakupov 1st. Montreal takes Alex Galchenyuk 3rd. There is little drop off there. This draft is very similar. DalColle or Dras are very close to Reinhart talent wise.
- sbroads24

Thats fine. You keep within the top 3 like Ive been talking about all along. That was a particularly deep draft. If you can trade down and stay within those picks sure go for it if you have a player in mind.....jesus

del colle plays some what like galchenyuk ..


Edit : looked at your post wrong
- gerbe75pts

In my hockey scouting accumen Galy was pretty complete but not overly flashy where yak had a ton of offensive upside.

At some point you have to stop taking defensemen. This team cannot score. They can't wait until 2015 to address the need for top 6 forwards.
- sbroads24

You could draft Ekblad and move one of Risto/Zad + others for 1st line talent?

Earlier in the day put
Yak+"4" + 2015 1st
for
#2 2 2nd rd's

could even toss in Leduc or non up next young d men
- hubie

Thats a hideous trade for Edmonton

NObody wants happy boobs
- hubie

At some point you have to stop taking defensemen. This team cannot score. They can't wait until 2015 to address the need for top 6 forwards.
- sbroads24

Why if you then have the ability to trade for a position of need which one that your rich in talent?

Thats a hideous trade for Edmonton
- SiloCity

They want a blue chipper d man there it is it wont be there at 4 or 5

Why if you then have the ability to trade for a position of need which one that your rich in talent?
- SiloCity

Cause weve traded d men for need all the time?

- gerbe75pts

is that the best you got?

At some point you have to stop taking defensemen. This team cannot score. They can't wait until 2015 to address the need for top 6 forwards.
- sbroads24

Shouldnt have taken two defenseman last year. I agree, you must address the issue of a top 6 forward.

Thats fine. You keep within the top 3 like Ive been talking about all along. That was a particularly deep draft. If you can trade down and stay within those picks sure go for it if you have a player in mind.....jesus
- SiloCity

Or pick 4, or even 5. The # of the pick does not matter...... You could have 10 players that are almost exactly the same.

There are 4 forwards outside of Reinhart that are very similar talent wise. Each could be an impact player. If you have the opportunity to address the scoring need and gain assets if Reinhart is picked 1, you can make the move as long as it makes sense IMO

Cause weve traded d men for need all the time?
- hubie

What? We've used some lower level D men as part of packages but whats wrong with that? Who knows if Vancouver would have pulled the trigger on sending cody over if we couldnt include Grags? Funny looking back but hell he was tossed in.

We unloaded Leo and Robyn for picks because it was needed.

I dont see an issue here

Or pick 4, or even 5. The # of the pick does not matter...... You could have 10 players that are almost exactly the same.

There are 4 forwards outside of Reinhart that are very similar talent wise. Each could be an impact player. If you have the opportunity to address the scoring need and gain assets if Reinhart is picked 1, you can make the move as long as it makes sense IMO
- sbroads24

Not to mention the drop from Ekbald to McKewn/Fluery is nite and day

What? We've used some lower level D men as part of packages but whats wrong with that? Who knows if Vancouver would have pulled the trigger on sending cody over if we couldnt include Grags? Funny looking back but hell he was tossed in.

We unloaded Leo and Robyn for picks because it was needed.

I dont see an issue here
- SiloCity

lower level d men arent going to get you a top 3

stop trying to load this team up with 3rd liners

You are valuing the pick more than the player. For example. 2012 Edmonton takes Nail Yakupov 1st. Montreal takes Alex Galchenyuk 3rd. There is little drop off there. This draft is very similar. DalColle or Dras are very close to Reinhart talent wise.
- sbroads24

IMO Reinhart = Tavares. DalColle and Dras are not in that class.

Reinhart is much better than both in tersm of everything else he brings to the table along with the offensive talent

lower level d men arent going to get you a top 3

stop trying to load this team up with 3rd liners
- hubie

Agree.

Also as far as trading prospects. Prospects are worth the most to the team they are currently on. No one is giving us a proven top 6 forward for Risto or Zadarov right noww

IMO Reinhart = Tavares. DalColle and Dras are not in that class.

Reinhart is much better than both in tersm of everything else he brings to the table along with the offensive talent
- ImThatGuy

I hope but I doubt it.

Reinhart can skate fast and is intelligent
Tavares is slow but has crazy hands and vision.

is that the best you got?
- hubie

It's the best he will post here.

There's a thread for that.

Or pick 4, or even 5. The # of the pick does not matter...... You could have 10 players that are almost exactly the same.

There are 4 forwards outside of Reinhart that are very similar talent wise. Each could be an impact player. If you have the opportunity to address the scoring need and gain assets if Reinhart is picked 1, you can make the move as long as it makes sense IMO
- sbroads24

Thats just not true your going to have a chance to get a better prospect with the higher the pick I dont see how you can possibly make a case otherwise besides your opinion that this draft is comprised of all the same talent in the top 10. The lateral move to go down say from 2nd to 3-4th is not worth a scenario of taking someone like Ekblad and then moving a d-man like Risto-McCabe-Pysyk etc and whatever else for a top 6 scorer.

Thats just not true your going to have a chance to get a better prospect with the higher the pick I dont see how you can possibly make a case otherwise besides your opinion that this draft is comprised of all the same talent in the top 10. The lateral move to go down say from 2nd to 3-4th is not worth a scenario of taking someone like Ekblad and then moving a d-man like Risto-McCabe-Pysyk etc and whatever else for a top 6 scorer.
- SiloCity

Were arguing over specifics that don't matter so I will just say agree to disagree.

I know that the higher the pick the better the player, that's not my point. My point is that in certain drafts, that chart doesn't always represent the talent available.