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SiloCity
Location: McDavid or whoever is not going to make a difference for a couple years if that-SABRES89, NY
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
and whos goign to get paid to play offense? thats like 30 mil in defense
- hubie


Cap is projected to continue to rise
http://www.cbssports.com/...e-to-80-million-by-201718

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
I that scenario,
We'd be free to trade Pysyk + (ennis?)
Should be able to get a pretty good forward for that, no?

- jdfitz77


thats a fair point, but thats just too many d men at the same contract ages, plus one of them woudl leave you only have so many 20+ min d men on a roster
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:45 PM ET
Cap is projected to continue to rise
http://www.cbssports.com/...e-to-80-million-by-201718

- SiloCity


as the cap rises the salary rises so when im thinking 6 mil per 6 would become 8
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 3 @ 4:45 PM ET
Snow is going to be fired after this year. There's no way whoever they hire will be that dumb. Buffalo is going to get the Isles' pick this year.
- buffalofan19


they we can draft both Reinhart, dal Colle

then we draft one of McDavid,Eichel,Strome, Barzal next year ..

win -win

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 3 @ 4:46 PM ET
Cap is projected to continue to rise
http://www.cbssports.com/...e-to-80-million-by-201718

- SiloCity

Right so then Rstolainen, Zadarov, Pysyk and Ekblad's contracts will al be bigger. Not to mention the decent cap hits of Myers and Hoff. We need forwards. We aint taking Ekblad.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:46 PM ET
Myers, Zadorov, Risto, and McCabe are the only guys that I forsee staying on our defense after next season...

everyone else will either leave UFA or be traded...

I think that Ehrhoff is gone at the deadline this year.

- JVince11


I know many are not a fan, but Pysyk is the kind of calming Dman that every team needs one of to be a fully rounded out D core.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 3 @ 4:46 PM ET
I know many are not a fan, but Pysyk is the kind of calming Dman that every team needs one of to be a fully rounded out D core.
- kingcong39

I'm a fan.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
Pysyk or McNabb will be traded this season.... they will be added into some Ennis, Moulson, or Stafford type deal in order to get us a better prospect or pick...


Ehrhoff will be dealt at the deadline...

Ott could very well be dealt at the deadline too.. we are gonna be 1st round draft pick happy..

If we have 2 already in this year's draft because NYI doesn't want to chance losing a pick in next year's rich draft then great.. but if we can add one for this year and one for next year then great.. we have hte 2nd round picks to give away to obtain a first.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
Myers, Zadorov, Risto, and McCabe are the only guys that I forsee staying on our defense after next season...

everyone else will either leave UFA or be traded...


I think that Ehrhoff is gone at the deadline this year.

- JVince11


The future cap implications on Hoff make it more of a no bueno IMO.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
I know many are not a fan, but Pysyk is the kind of calming Dman that every team needs one of to be a fully rounded out D core.
- kingcong39


when Sulzer came up.. they immediately sat Pysyk in the box and put Sulzer with Ehrhoff...

that was the moment I knew what the coaching staff thought of Pysyk.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:48 PM ET
Myers-Ekblad
Risto-Ehrhoff
Zadorov-McNabb
Weber/McCabe/Sulzer


Keep your players signed and your set for the next decade

- SiloCity



If we draft Ekblad...
He, Myers, Ristolainen & Pysyk are all RH defensemen
That opens up the possibility to trade Pysyk or Myers for forward help
(And guys, having Ekblad at the point would also help the offense!)

We are good on the Left side too with
Ehrhoff, Zadorov, McNabb & McCabe

I LOVE how our defense is set up for the next 10yrs or so!
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:49 PM ET
The future cap implications on Hoff make it more of a no bueno IMO.
- dadeadhead


I'm lazy at the moment... He is signed until what 2021? so 7 years.. and he is 31 now?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 3 @ 4:50 PM ET
If we draft Ekblad...
He, Myers, Ristolainen & Pysyk are all RH defensemen
That opens up the possibility to trade Pysyk or Myers for forward help
(And guys, having Ekblad at the point would also help the offense!)

We are good on the Left side too with
Ehrhoff, Zadorov, McNabb & McCabe

I LOVE how our defense is set up for the next 10yrs or so!

- jdfitz77

So we can move backwards in the rebuild then? It took 5 years for Myers to develope, so we trade him and replace him with an 18 year old defensemen that will take years to develope.....
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:51 PM ET
So we can move backwards in the rebuild then? It took 5 years for Myers to develope, so we trade him and replace him with an 18 year old defensemen that will take years to develope.....
- sbroads24


BINGO!!! THIS!!!

Myers is having maybe his best year as an "all-around" D-Man.. just let him be!
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 3 @ 4:51 PM ET

might be old ... new to me


Sabres considering sending Grigorenko to WJC or to Quebec


http://www.buffalohockeyb...-or-quebec-possibilities/
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:52 PM ET
So we can move backwards in the rebuild then? It took 5 years for Myers to develope, so we trade him and replace him with an 18 year old defensemen that will take years to develope.....
- sbroads24


maybe we should go Ekbald and McKeown you know we will need a D up in the box in case of injury or a rest day for one of those others

THan go Hanifin next year in case someone leaves
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 3 @ 4:52 PM ET
I'm lazy at the moment... He is signed until what 2021? so 7 years.. and he is 31 now?
- JVince11


The cap recoupe on his deal if he were to retire before the contract expires is the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Sabres alone to bear.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
might be old ... new to me


Sabres considering sending Grigorenko to WJC or to Quebec


http://www.buffalohockeyb...-or-quebec-possibilities/

- gerbe75pts



Sending him to the WJC is a no-brainer at this point.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
might be old ... new to me


Sabres considering sending Grigorenko to WJC or to Quebec


http://www.buffalohockeyb...-or-quebec-possibilities/

- gerbe75pts


what a sh!t storm that has turned into...

The dude is not gonna be a player now... he is gonna basically take his ball and go home to Russia.. just like the WPG player did after his ELC.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 3 @ 4:54 PM ET
Sending him to the WJC is a no-brainer at this point.
- buffalofan19


Common sense does dictate that but we all know.......

SiloCity
Location: McDavid or whoever is not going to make a difference for a couple years if that-SABRES89, NY
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:55 PM ET
So we can move backwards in the rebuild then? It took 5 years for Myers to develope, so we trade him and replace him with an 18 year old defensemen that will take years to develope.....
- sbroads24


I like Myers but Ekblad has a much higher ceiling than Tyler. Id rather have both. But Ekblad will be a better D man in the end.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:55 PM ET
If we chose Ekblad.. I will puke...

the only offensive player in our pipeline right now that has a realistic ceiling of the 2nd line or better is Armia...

yet in our D pipeline we have McCabe, Pysyk, McNabb, Risto, Zadorov, and Ruhwedel who could be #4-5 guys or better in future years. Not to mention young Tyler Myers in Buffalo now.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:56 PM ET
I like Myers but Ekblad has a much higher than Tyler. Id rather have both. But Ekblad will be a better D man in the end.
- SiloCity


U said D in End
ok till tomorrow boys
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 3 @ 5:00 PM ET
The cap recoupe on his deal if he were to retire before the contract expires is the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Sabres alone to bear.
- dadeadhead


On top of that, they have already paid him the bulk of his contract, so despite his $4M cap hit, which will not be punitive with the cap going up and quickly, they will actually be paying him that $4M and less as the years go by.

Why get rid of him when they already paid the brunt of his contract early and then have to pay the ugly recapture penalty later should he retire early?

Doesn't seem to make sense.
SiloCity
Location: McDavid or whoever is not going to make a difference for a couple years if that-SABRES89, NY
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 3 @ 5:00 PM ET
If we chose Ekblad.. I will puke...

the only offensive player in our pipeline right now that has a realistic ceiling of the 2nd line or better is Armia...

yet in our D pipeline we have McCabe, Pysyk, McNabb, Risto, Zadorov, and Ruhwedel who could be #4-5 guys or better in future years. Not to mention young Tyler Myers in Buffalo now.

- JVince11


Id be very upset if we passed on Reinhart but if he was off the board Id love to have Ekblad

The two of them are much better prospects then the rest of the class

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