Having two capable goalies is a good problem to have, but goalie play is the least of our problems right now scoring is. And until we address that i don't care who is in goal we're not going to win many games.

Having two capable goalies is a good problem to have, but goalie play is the least of our problems right now scoring is. And until we address that i don't care who is in goal we're not going to win many games.
- FAZOOL

Yea but if we aren't going to fix the scoring problem then the goalie who is playing the best needs to be playing regardless of who it is. All I am saying is Marty is not playing better then Schneider right now. It's the same thing with us getting pp's late in games that we need to tie games up or go ahead and Deboer has Gelinas sitting on the bench. Gelinas gives us the best chance to score on the pp there is no arguing that so why are we not trying to score right of the bat on the pp ? It's just mind boggling. This team could be managed a lot better to give us a better chance to succeed. Doesn't mean we will but it certainly would give us the best chance every night and every game.

Everyone's bias clearly shows in a situation like this.

When Cory was playing well, but wasn't getting wins, the Marty apologists would say "we aren't winning games, the team plays better with Marty in net and they're winning with him in net".

Now, tables have turned. Marty playing OK lately but has lost 4 in a row, can't get a win, and those same fans are saying "Marty didn't lose us the game, not his fault"...anything to justify keeping him in net.

Gotta love it.

Yes, scoring is the Devils main problem, but the reason they lost last night solely rests on missed defensive assignments.

Yes, scoring is the Devils main problem, but the reason they lost last night solely rests on missed defensive assignments.
- ElvisLemieux

I thought Volchenkov and Zid ( not sure if they where together all night ) but when those 2 where out there we where scrambling in our own end for long stretches. I just want to win that's all I could care less about who is in net so long as we are winning. Play the guys who are playing the best seems to be a hard thing to do with not just the goalies but we have all seen with the players as well. For the longest time the better guys got benched and scratched for mistakes that crap players where constantly making but receiving more ice time for it.

it's not like he let in 4+ goals. Maybe the 1st wasn't great but it wasn't horrible either. he let in 3 goals. It's not rare for 1 out of 3 to be stoppable. Schneider may be a little better but Marty's puck handling abilities help us in ways Cory can't. I don't think the difference is so great to make a big fuss over. DeBoer is probably thinking that Brodeur plays well against Montreal. No harm in giving him 2 games in a row here. Schneider was indeed brought in to be the backup. We can't make those mistakes defensively.. there's no guarantee Schneider wouldn't have also let in 3 goals, maybe on different shots. The D can't make those mistakes.. and the O .. we know how pathetic it is.

i think all of gelinas, zidlicky and volchenkov had fairly bad games. gelinas i think it was his nerves from being home and trying to do to much at some points. on the other hand deboer shortened the bench way to much last night with henrique going down and i thought we were completely gassed by the end of the 3rd

it's not like he let in 4+ goals. Maybe the 1st wasn't great but it wasn't horrible either. he let in 3 goals. It's not rare for 1 out of 3 to be stoppable. Schneider may be a little better but Marty's puck handling abilities help us in ways Cory can't. I don't think the difference is so great to make a big fuss over. DeBoer is probably thinking that Brodeur plays well against Montreal. No harm in giving him 2 games in a row here. Schneider was indeed brought in to be the backup. We can't make those mistakes defensively.. there's no guarantee Schneider wouldn't have also let in 3 goals, maybe on different shots. The D can't make those mistakes.. and the O .. we know how pathetic it is.
- MartysBetter88

My main point is Marty wasnèt good enough to steal the starts back from Schneider after he won back to backs. Lou might of said when he traded for Cory that Marty would still be the starter but that is seriously just foolish. This isnèt 28 year old Marty Brodeur you guys are talking about this is the 41 year old version who is decent but not a better goalie then Cory and not for extended stretches. He still could be an NHL starter but he shouldnèt be on a team that has a better goalie. I could clearly argue all day with you guys about this. Its always the same stuff (he didnèt play bad) but yet Cory as to stand on his head spin and spit quarters for him to start and all Marty has to do is not be bad ? (frank)ing crazy I cant believe that this is an argument. Everyone is living in the past.

Where does it say officially that PDB said Brodeur is starting Wednesday?

My main point is Marty wasnèt good enough to steal the starts back from Schneider after he won back to backs. Lou might of said when he traded for Cory that Marty would still be the starter but that is seriously just foolish. This isnèt 28 year old Marty Brodeur you guys are talking about this is the 41 year old version who is decent but not a better goalie then Cory and not for extended stretches. He still could be an NHL starter but he shouldnèt be on a team that has a better goalie. I could clearly argue all day with you guys about this. Its always the same stuff (he didnèt play bad) but yet Cory as to stand on his head spin and spit quarters for him to start and all Marty has to do is not be bad ? (frank)ing crazy I cant believe that this is an argument. Everyone is living in the past.
- blizzzard

But Brodeur has presently been very good. Either goalie could've lost that game..

Any word on Henrique's injury?

But Brodeur has presently been very good. Either goalie could've lost that game..
- MartysBetter88

And Schneider has only been good ? to me when you say that you suggest despite losing his last 4 games that he has been as good as Cory has? see what I am getting at. Cory has to be Vezina caliber to get starts while if Marty plays good he gets the go. Hopefully what the poster above said is true and there is no confirmed source saying Marty is starting. I just dont see how it makes sense. Cory wins two and row Marty understandably gets the game in MTL because he plays great there and he has a lot of family and always plays in MTL but to also give Cory a game after winning two nights in a row. Marty loses net goes back to Cory like it should have regardless of if Marty won or not Cory loses his next game then its Martys net to lose again.

Cory was brought here as a backup, if and when he gets his time as a number one that will be great and i hope it's with us. He may as well be Moose at this point, no matter how well he plays he's still the backup on this team. This is Marty's team, always has been and always will be as long as he's here.
Marty will always get the benefit of the doubt, and as long as he's healthy and playing at a high level he'll more than likely get more games in net.
- FAZOOL

Corey is the better goalie though. We need wins. I could see DeBoer playing the hot hand but right now Marty has lost 4 in a row and Schneider has won 3 in a row only giving up 3 goals in the process. He needs to be playing.

But Brodeur has presently been very good. Either goalie could've lost that game..
- MartysBetter88

Brodeur has been average recently. Schneider has been stealing games or at the least giving us a great chances to win.

Have one goalie play just home games and the other just away games.

Have one goalie play just home games and the other just away games.
- FAZOOL

I dont think that fixes anything but your thinking ! Marty deserves to play when he plays well but not when the other guy is playing better and winning and Marty is losing. I am totally ok with Marty getting more starts or consecutive ones but when Cory loses. You cant just have it one way when Cory loses he is out and not have it the same when Marty plays.

it's not like he let in 4+ goals. Maybe the 1st wasn't great but it wasn't horrible either. he let in 3 goals. It's not rare for 1 out of 3 to be stoppable. Schneider may be a little better but Marty's puck handling abilities help us in ways Cory can't. I don't think the difference is so great to make a big fuss over. DeBoer is probably thinking that Brodeur plays well against Montreal. No harm in giving him 2 games in a row here. Schneider was indeed brought in to be the backup. We can't make those mistakes defensively.. there's no guarantee Schneider wouldn't have also let in 3 goals, maybe on different shots. The D can't make those mistakes.. and the O .. we know how pathetic it is.
- MartysBetter88

I certainly am not blaming Marty for any of his last 4 starts especially last night. But he shouldn't get the next game, he didn't play amazing last night nor did we win therefore he should not get another game especially when Cory won his last two. Cory is as much the starter as Marty the whole reason he was brought in was to give us the two goalie system. Now with Pete sitting Cory again on Wednesday this will be the second time in a month Cory has sat for 6 days or more between starts. Which to me is unacceptable when he has played as good as he is. Cory should be in Wednesday, Marty gets the Friday game and then go back to Cory on Saturday. It just doesn't make sense when Marty isn't playing out of this world he's been good though don't get me wrong on that. It's just he hasn't run away with the net like PDB is trying to make it out to be.

Baby steps with PDB, look how long it took before he took Harrold out of the lineup.

But Brodeur has presently been very good. Either goalie could've lost that game..
- MartysBetter88

This I agree with but the whole point is he doesn't deserve Wednesday's game. Cory has been great recently and better than Marty but yet still is getting shafted yet again having to wait almost another week between starts. That is my gripe especially in a week we have 4 games and back to back over the weekends. So is Cory getting both Friday and Saturday's games now? Cause if not then the decision to go with Marty again on Wednesday is indeed (frank)ing bullpoop. If Marty get's three starts to Cory's 1 this week i'll be pretty upset and Cory will only continue feeling like "it's groundhogday".

I thought Volchenkov and Zid ( not sure if they where together all night ) but when those 2 where out there we where scrambling in our own end for long stretches. I just want to win that's all I could care less about who is in net so long as we are winning. Play the guys who are playing the best seems to be a hard thing to do with not just the goalies but we have all seen with the players as well. For the longest time the better guys got benched and scratched for mistakes that crap players where constantly making but receiving more ice time for it.
- blizzzard

Zid and Volchenkov were indeed a pairing. Which clearly was a huge mistake. Volchenkov neither hits nor is a consistent players anymore, so pairing him with the Zidlicky is crazy.

Zid and Volchenkov were indeed a pairing. Which clearly was a huge mistake. Volchenkov neither hits nor is a consistent players anymore, so pairing him with the Zidlicky is crazy.
- ElvisLemieux

I was actually thinking last night to myself that it had been a pretty long time since Volchenkov lined someone up and just made them feel the wrath. I think the Dubinsky one was the last good hit he had. I mean he is pinching guys off at the boards when he can but he isnt laying the thunder anymore lol

I was actually thinking last night to myself that it had been a pretty long time since Volchenkov lined someone up and just made them feel the wrath. I think the Dubinsky one was the last good hit he had. I mean he is pinching guys off at the boards when he can but he isnt laying the thunder anymore lol
- blizzzard

I think he's been injured too often in the last 3-4 years to put himself at risk like he used to with his hitting style (which was all-out at times).

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