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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Dec 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
Sure, but there are many flavors to that. Maybe he asked for more responsibility in the Comcast world but they rebuffed him. Either way he may have resigned because he saw a limited future ahead of him.

With that said, in the articles that I've read Snider seemed very surprised about the whole thing. It doesn't compute that this longtime company man would give zero warning to his longtime boss, friend, and mentor. I think a Comcast-forced exit is what is going on...and is probably less about Luukko staging a Pat Croce and more about Comcast asserting themselves.

If however he truly is quitting to do something different, then I wish him well. I just don't think that is what is going on though.

- Tartan69

maybe, I guess we'll never really know
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 4:33 PM ET
Either Luuko has a better opportunity somewhere else or a rift developed between he and someone at the organization. From Snider's shock, it doesn't appear they were on the outs by any means.

He's been here so long and is pretty much guaranteed the top spot when Ed steps down. There had to be something more than the classic 'I want to spend more time with my family' or 'I want to look for different opportunities'

- PhillySportsGuy


I like Tartan's theory about Comcast taking shots at Snider's power base. That makes some sense, as well.

I don't buy the "better opportunity elsewhere" schpiel here at all.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 4:35 PM ET
maybe, I guess we'll never really know
- JAKEw1234


Oh, I think we'll get more on this story. Just maybe not today.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 2 @ 4:38 PM ET
I like Tartan's theory about Comcast taking shots at Snider's power base. That makes some sense, as well.

I don't buy the "better opportunity elsewhere" schpiel here at all.

- johndewar


I don't know, but I'm getting shpilkes for this game tonight. Oy Gevalt!
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Dec 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
Interest doesn't have to be mainstream, teams don't always want info leaked.

He's doing what he should right now & is a late bloomer. Does it mean anything nobody knows but I'd bet he'll be signed by an NHL team.

- ob18

No I know, I was just trying to illustrate the scope. For a guy who has 31 goals in 28 games in the OHL, you'd expect to hear more buzz? I think scouts have seen that although he may be scoring now, it's not as if he is going to be highly sought after. Remember, almost ALL over-aged OHL players have amazing years in their final season.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 4:42 PM ET
I don't know, but I'm getting shpilkes for this game tonight. Oy Gevalt!
- PhillySportsGuy


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 5:01 PM ET
I like Tartan's theory about Comcast taking shots at Snider's power base. That makes some sense, as well.

I don't buy the "better opportunity elsewhere" schpiel here at all.

- johndewar



Can anyone step on sniders throat in similar fashion?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Dec 2 @ 5:01 PM ET
I don't know, but I'm getting shpilkes for this game tonight. Oy Gevalt!
- PhillySportsGuy



Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 5:05 PM ET
Any known cure for vinnys carryingoverpaidandoverratedcoreitis?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 2 @ 5:07 PM ET
No I know, I was just trying to illustrate the scope. For a guy who has 31 goals in 28 games in the OHL, you'd expect to hear more buzz? I think scouts have seen that although he may be scoring now, it's not as if he is going to be highly sought after. Remember, almost ALL over-aged OHL players have amazing years in their final season.
- Flyers_V88


It's similar to that of Mitch Holmberg of Spokane in the WHL. He's leading the league in scoring. http://www.whl.ca/stats/s...op_scorers/ls_season/last

My guess is teams are still doing homework on him and if they offer any deal it won't be until the new year.
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Dec 2 @ 5:09 PM ET
It's similar to that of Mitch Holmberg of Spokane in the WHL. He's leading the league in scoring. http://www.whl.ca/stats/s...op_scorers/ls_season/last

My guess is teams are still doing homework on him and if they offer any deal it won't be until the new year.

- ob18

Yeah, for sure. Good post. I'm not trying to take anything away from these guys, just looks at the peripherals and their playing situations and some of the results are to be expected.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 2 @ 5:13 PM ET
Yeah, for sure. Good post. I'm not trying to take anything away from these guys, just looks at the peripherals and their playing situations and some of the results are to be expected.
- Flyers_V88


Maybe he still turns out to be something with the right team and some ECHL/AHL time he could be a quality 3rd line or better player.

Considering what the Flyers have in their system it could be worth a shot but I wouldn't rush to offer anything right n ow.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 2 @ 5:22 PM ET
I still think Hartnell needs a bit of a wake up call. He's not on the top line winger level as of yet. I'd drop him down a couple lines and limit his ice time. I'd like them to try Simmonds or even Downie with Giroux and Voracek. It's not a contract year for him so maybe diminished ice time will motivate him?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.05.2013

Dec 2 @ 5:30 PM ET
Also the fact that they named someone from the Comcast side as acting president instead of Tilger or even someone like John Page speaks volumes.
- Tartan69


they named that guy pres of the comcast side, not of the flyers
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 5:35 PM ET
That's corporate-speak for fired.
- Scoob

He apparently is going to a competitor, so it's corporate speak for left for greener grass, real or perceived.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 5:39 PM ET
I like Tartan's theory about Comcast taking shots at Snider's power base. That makes some sense, as well.

I don't buy the "better opportunity elsewhere" schpiel here at all.

- johndewar

AEG is going through a major reorg. I buy the opportunity.

And looking at this from the Flyers perspective is looking at it only on a very small part of what he did. He was chairman of Global Spectrum, a much bigger and corporately more important job to Comcast than the president of the Flyers job, which still is in thrall to Ed.
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 2 @ 5:41 PM ET
Also the fact that they named someone from the Comcast side as acting president instead of Tilger or even someone like John Page speaks volumes.
- Tartan69

The fact that they named an interim suggests strongly to me that this came out of left field (was Luukko's choice, not Comcast's) because if Comcast had planned this, they'd have had a body in place to hit the ground running. This isn't a time they'd choose for Global to be headless, with AEG vulnerable.
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 5:47 PM ET
Highly doubtful based on his past history as a "dedicated company man". If he resigned and it wasn't a "resign or be fired" situation, then it was only because of a power move that failed. Something like him wanting confirmation that he'd be named chairman when Snider died and they said no. That's the only thing that would make sense.
- Tartan69

You do realize that the best way to dramatically increase your power and earnings is to change organizations.
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 2 @ 5:50 PM ET
After 25 years, you would think Luukko would give Snider a heads up and say, "Listen, I want to pursue other interests pretty soon, if you want to start looking for a replacement."

I wonder what the reason was?

- KGBflyers10

If I worked for Ed and wanted to leave, the last person I'd want knowing is Ed. I'd never trust him for a heartbeat not to undercut my plans out of spite. Now, I don't know him. He may not be the spiteful type, but then again.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 2 @ 5:55 PM ET
I still think Hartnell needs a bit of a wake up call. He's not on the top line winger level as of yet. I'd drop him down a couple lines and limit his ice time. I'd like them to try Simmonds or even Downie with Giroux and Voracek. It's not a contract year for him so maybe diminished ice time will motivate him?
- Pixote Andolini

Honestly, I'm not impressed with the play of anybody on the Giroux line.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 2 @ 6:12 PM ET
The fact that they named an interim suggests strongly to me that this came out of left field (was Luukko's choice, not Comcast's) because if Comcast had planned this, they'd have had a body in place to hit the ground running. This isn't a time they'd choose for Global to be headless, with AEG vulnerable.
- bodiva88

They really didn't name an interim for his role with the Flyers-Scott is taking over his position with Comcas-Spectacor, not with the Flyers. Snider will be assuming most of his duties, with Shawn Tilger adding more to his plate for now, as far as the Flyers are concerned.

There's no good reason to think that this decision was Comcast's at all, from the reaction and the lack of a successor ready to step in immediately.
Tartan69
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Section 112, PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 2 @ 6:15 PM ET
bodiva you make some good points, although if Luukko were going to AEG he probably would have mentioned it in the press release instead of the "focusing on family" bit. If he does however, count that as one of the great all-time heel turns.

I'll be very interested to hear the inside dirt on this from my sources...
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 2 @ 6:25 PM ET
They really didn't name an interim for his role with the Flyers-Scott is taking over his position with Comcas-Spectacor, not with the Flyers. Snider will be assuming most of his duties, with Shawn Tilger adding more to his plate for now, as far as the Flyers are concerned.

There's no good reason to think that this decision was Comcast's at all, from the reaction and the lack of a successor ready to step in immediately.

- Jsaquella

I meant that they named an interim for the CEO role. And I agree with you.
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 2 @ 6:31 PM ET
bodiva you make some good points, although if Luukko were going to AEG he probably would have mentioned it in the press release instead of the "focusing on family" bit. If he does however, count that as one of the great all-time heel turns.

I'll be very interested to hear the inside dirt on this from my sources...

- Tartan69

You wouldn't put the AEG (or any new employer) in the Comcast press release. The hiring company would make that announcement in their own release. We'll see.

I never figure a guy in his 50s whose kids are grown is going to be spending more time with his family. That ship has sailed. (My dad did that when we were grade schoolers--passed on promotions until he figured it would be career suicide to continue to do so--in order not to be on the road as much as a higher, more regional role would have required.)

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 2 @ 6:34 PM ET
No I know, I was just trying to illustrate the scope. For a guy who has 31 goals in 28 games in the OHL, you'd expect to hear more buzz? I think scouts have seen that although he may be scoring now, it's not as if he is going to be highly sought after. Remember, almost ALL over-aged OHL players have amazing years in their final season.
- Flyers_V88


You would definitely expect more buzz...that's what prompted me to ask the question. And he's about 7 months older than Laughton. Is what he doing really much different than Read or Gostisbehere going to college?
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