Leeman4Gilmour
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Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB Joined: 02.02.2010
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The development taking place in the WJC is one of a highly competative, high pressure and assuming they win, winning environment. These are things that can't be taught they have to be experienced. Reilly staying with the Leafs doesn't improve him or the team while him playing for team Canada makes him and as a result, the Leafs better. - paulr
Why would you assume they'd win?
And if a winning environment helps his development, does a demoralizing loss hurt it? |
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Barx
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Joined: 02.06.2007
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I consider 17 and 19 year olds kids. - djamon
so, like rielly?
he would have a chance to play with and compete against the very best 'kids' in the world and that is somehow harmful to his development? |
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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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You have a guy like Reilly where he can get the best coaching and competition, and that's most definitely NOT in Moose Jaw.
And please realize that while Reilly is better suited to be with the Leafs they are also developing many other players as well. - djamon
So you believe development is done at the NHL level? |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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so, like rielly?
he would have a chance to play with and compete against the very best 'kids' in the world and that is somehow harmful to his development? - Barx
Did I say harmful? |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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So you believe development is done at the NHL level? - paulr
Of course it is...lol. |
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Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB Joined: 02.02.2010
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So you believe development is done at the NHL level? - paulr
After a certain point, of course it is. |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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so, like rielly?
he would have a chance to play with and compete against the very best 'kids' in the world and that is somehow harmful to his development? - Barx
BTW...he needs to work on his pro game, the Leafs obviously have him working on many things. If he goes off for a month this will only set that process back, IMO. |
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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Kadri has taken a real step backwards. The boneheaded penalties aren't helping, either.
Goaltending might be getting burnt out under the workload, but it doesn't really seem to matter who we start. The team has given Reimer THREE goals total in his last three starts. The fact that he's salvaged a 1-1-1 record in that span is impressive.
Bernier has gotten 12 goals in support in his last 3. He's also 1-1-1. It seems that no matter what the circumstances are, this entire team is just bound and determined to be mediocre. - Leeman4Gilmour
I doubt the shotload is effecting their stamina. They're both getting plenty of nights off to recharge.
It's boiled down to the PK. I was big on tending and special teams getting us through the season. We haven't given enough support on the PP because the point men don't seem to want to shoot the puck from the point.
We're also hanging the goalies out to dry. In PIT, we had 3 goals against and it was just so predictable that a team with that much talent was gonna bury those chances. |
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he needs to work on his press box game - he hasn't quite got it down yet....start with drinks, text your honeys then order something to eat. |
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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Why would you assume they'd win?
And if a winning environment helps his development, does a demoralizing loss hurt it? - Leeman4Gilmour
No you're absolutely right. The record of NHL teams developing 19 years old players by bringing them into the NHL then giving them limited minutes or sitting them in the press box would bear that out. |
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Dot-Tee
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 08.09.2013
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he needs to work on his press box game - he hasn't quite got it down yet....start with drinks, text your honeys then order something to eat. - BlowMonkey
Ever eaten at Wild Wings yet? (frank) me!... those things are the size of my fist. What do they feed them??
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jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere Between, NB Joined: 07.17.2010
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Luke Schenn should have gone back to junior for 1 more year...but we "needed" him on the Leafs |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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No you're absolutely right. The record of NHL teams developing 19 years old players by bringing them into the NHL then giving them limited minutes or sitting them in the press box would bear that out. - paulr
No, YOU'RE right...19 year olds never make the NHL. |
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Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB Joined: 02.02.2010
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I doubt the shotload is effecting their stamina. They're both getting plenty of nights off to recharge.
It's boiled down to the PK. I was big on tending and special teams getting us through the season. We haven't given enough support on the PP because the point men don't seem to want to shoot the puck from the point.
We're also hanging the goalies out to dry. In PIT, we had 3 goals against and it was just so predictable that a team with that much talent was gonna bury those chances. - AngryWhiteMale
The goalie scapegoating will be getting fired up right away, I'm afraid.
With the Rask debacle, and now watching Scrivens outperform everybody in our system, we really need to learn not to trade goalies. It feels like we're bound to trade to wrong guy whenever it is we settle on a #1.
At this point, we need all the goaltending help possible. Keep this setup rolling as long as possible. If anything, I think they need more regular starts. Goalies need to get into a rhythm. |
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Dot-Tee
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 08.09.2013
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I'm off to the beer store. |
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Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB Joined: 02.02.2010
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No you're absolutely right. The record of NHL teams developing 19 years old players by bringing them into the NHL then giving them limited minutes or sitting them in the press box would bear that out. - paulr
Thanks for the defensive non sequitur, but would you care to address the original questions? |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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The goalie scapegoating will be getting fired up right away, I'm afraid.
With the Rask debacle, and now watching Scrivens outperform everybody in our system, we really need to learn not to trade goalies. It feels like we're bound to trade to wrong guy whenever it is we settle on a #1.
At this point, we need all the goaltending help possible. Keep this setup rolling as long as possible. If anything, I think they need more regular starts. Goalies need to get into a rhythm. - Leeman4Gilmour
You don't see think it just has to do with goalies simply going into better systems? |
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Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB Joined: 02.02.2010
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Luke Schenn should have gone back to junior for 1 more year...but we "needed" him on the Leafs - jimi james
At the time, it was obvious he was ready for the pro game. And he was.
The flaws that emerged in Schenn's game had nothing to do with being taken out of junior. |
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fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Hi guys
Tough schedule coming up. - LeftCoaster
Troll. |
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Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
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4-3 Leafs in an instant classic between two powerhouses of the east. |
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Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB Joined: 02.02.2010
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You don't see think it just has to do with goalies simply going into better systems? - djamon
Partially. The Leafs certainly make their goalies work harder than most.
The other part is a total lack of patience on our part. That has probably been this team's greatest weakness since I started following them two decades ago. |
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Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
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I'm off to the beer store. - Dot-Tee
What you getting? |
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4-3 Leafs in an instant classic between two powerhouses of the east. - Leafland
I suspect I will be tapping out midway through the 2nd period of this epic battle...(this will of course be 20 minutes after the Leafs have already tapped out lol). |
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Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: You're the fukin best Bellows! Joined: 02.10.2011
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so, like rielly?
he would have a chance to play with and compete against the very best 'kids' in the world and that is somehow harmful to his development? - Barx
the very best of his age group are playing in the nhl mang |
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Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: You're the fukin best Bellows! Joined: 02.10.2011
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Luke Schenn should have gone back to junior for 1 more year...but we "needed" him on the Leafs - jimi james
schenn should have spent the first 17 years of his life learning how to fuking skate |
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