He has a mean stache though.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

i'll give him that..........

. But we also got a 2nd rounder in the Conacher deal. That could pan out down the line I guess.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

who did we get with that 2nd? or was it for this year?
cant remember.

who did we get with that 2nd? or was it for this year?
cant remember.
- sen_smile

It was a 4th rounder actually. Tobias Lindberg was the pick I think.

It was a 4th rounder actually. Tobias Lindberg was the pick I think.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

oh gotcha. that's right. thnx

Time to give up on Andy for awhile. Needs work, but constantly is given no reason to want to be better when the net is just given to him.

Getting sick of Maclean reminding all of us that Andy is there #1... Lehner gives this team the best chance to win. Murray has to be getting in his ear about this cuz honestly Andy and his 4+ goals against every night is hurting us. The guy needs to man up too, he got a stinger on a shot and just gave up on the play, costing goal #4...suck it up!

Time to give up on Andy for awhile. Needs work, but constantly is given no reason to want to be better when the net is just given to him.

Getting sick of Maclean reminding all of us that Andy is there #1... Lehner gives this team the best chance to win. Murray has to be getting in his ear about this cuz honestly Andy and his 4+ goals against every night is hurting us. The guy needs to man up too, he got a stinger on a shot and just gave up on the play, costing goal #4...suck it up!
- BodyCheckRadio

he needs to work on some #@$! thats for sure. but i think last nite his antics were mostly out of frustration with himself. he seemed frustrated as hell. i think thats why mac finally pulled him.

Anderson played well for the fist 15 games of the season but has had a few bad outings since. He is obviously struggling now and we need to let Lehner run with things for a while.
The top problem with the team has been the defensive zone coverage. If we can fix that we should be a playoff team - we really need Cowen to step up or we need to make a trade.
Secondary scoring has also been a big problem with Greening, Michalek and Conacher having crappy starts to the season. Spezza can be better and more consistent too but hopefully having Zibanejad play with him will help.

Ottawa needs to keep what's work together [for the most part]

-> Call up J.G. Pageau [at least for 1 game]
-> Put wingers with Spezza [RYAN!]
-> Trade: Michalek + 62 or 77 + pick <> Tlusty + Gleason {CAR $1M next yr}

Tlusty-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Zibanejad
Conacher-Smith-Neil
Greening-Pageau-Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Gleason
Phillips-Borowiecki

10 more thoughts

The Sens organization is just in a really bad spot right on all fronts:

1) Ownership: Melnyk's financially handcuffing this team and the Alfie saga has really put a dark cloud over the franchise. The buzz around the city has been so quiet since the start of the year. give it a rest...we've been through this

2) Losing Alfie: enough said. see comment above

3) Brutal Schedule: We played poorly to start the year, but we also played against some really elite teams. If a few of those games are against weaker teams and we squeeze out a couple wins instead, things wouldn't look as bad in the standings and the players confidence would be higher. everybody has this, we had it early .... get over it

4) Craig Anderson: Lehner has been good, Anderson not so much. Andy started game one of the year on fire, its been downhill ever since. Early he played well, most goals he didn't have chance and was a result of the teams poor play. All those goals have taken a toll and now he's just looked really weak. no confidence.
can't over achieve every year... his porous D is making him look bad

5) Missed opportunity to add needed assets: Last year the sens had a 3 headed monster in nets. Anderson was the best goalie in the league, Lehner and Bishop both played great. The writing has been on the wall that Lehner would someday take over the #1 spot in Ottawa. Most of us knew that Bishop could end up being a top 10 NHL goalie. Conacher has been poorly used in Ottawa and can be effective but Ottawa should have got more. To only turn our 3 headed monster into Cory Conacher was a missed opportunity. Andy's value was at an all time high with a great contract and now his value is non-existant. Its easy to say now, but they should found a way to get more assets. Possibly traded Anderson when his value was high. Its hard to say it after the way he got us past the Habs, but its Murray's job to make the best decisions to ensure the best team going forward. Lehner was starting to show flashes last year and we can see now that he's ready. the expected return on investment by the undereducated armchair GM is always less than reality for a goaler - especially a career AHLer

6) Where are the fans?: The Empty seats at every home game are embarrasing and the silence in the building is worse then usual. mediocre team = mediocre attendance

7) Afternoon games: what a brutal idea! who cares if you get more money from Sportnet, but who really wants to watch a game in the afternoon on the weekend during some of our only time off from work to get real things done. The visiting team who is in town with nothing but playing hockey on there mind (Ottawa's nightlife is non-existant) has the clear advantage compared to the sens who are home with family and responsabilites before rushing off to the rink. A winning team makes money, so the extra money from sportsnet afternoon games has been offset by the team poor performance in these games and lack of fans. who wants to buy 12$ beer at 1:00pm?

8) Too many players regressing instead of progressing. Cowen played like a 30 year old veteran in his first year. he's been brutal since. Wiercoch couldn't crack the lineup for several years and never lived up to his original hype. He got to stick around long enough in the organization and finally got a chance last year and played well. mainly on the PP. Should have known better then to trust in him after half a season. Milan Michalek. well...Milan just sucks. out there in his own little world making big wide turns woohoo. I hope he's enjoying it. 1/2 the team overachieved last year - it is only natural to see them come back to their respective realities

9) Poor coaching: Maclean has been given the benefit of the doubt coming of his jack adams award last year. 26 games in to the year and still dealing with the same inconsistencies. The coach needs to take some of the blame at this point. Way too much line juggling early on. Not realizing and making the obvious lineup decisions. no being able to find ways to improve this team. Jack Adams one year .... chump the next you are a moron

10) CTC location (just to round it off at 10): Ive heard the stories of Habs fans in montreal. getting together at the local bars on ste-catherine street in downtown montreal, having some beers and a good time then walking over to the Bell centre in the middle of downtown. What a luxury. With no more extra free tickets being given out to season ticket holders are we fnally seeing what the regular paid attendence is like? I Wish Melnyk would have never been able to purchase the Rink in kanata at the time and built a new rink in the downtown area like he said he would if he hadn't got such a good price. But then again, what state financially would we be in if he had put money into building an arena.
- matt272

this just gets weaker by the excuse .... did you run out of ideas after eight , but felt compelled to finish your top ten????

Ottawa needs to keep what's work together
- AlfieisKing[for the most part]

-> Call up J.G. Pageau [at least for 1 game]
-> Put wingers with Spezza [RYAN!]
-> Trade: Michalek + 62 or 77 + pick <> Tlusty + Gleason {CAR $1M next yr}

Tlusty-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Zibanejad
Conacher-Smith-Neil
Greening-Pageau-Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Gleason
Phillips-Borowiecki

why exactly would carolina agree to that deal?

tlusty is younger and better then michalek at this point, and gleason (who's already stated he doesn't want to play in canada) is LIGHT YEARS better then either d-man you proposed to trade.........so i ask again, why the hell would they make that trade

why exactly would carolina agree to that deal?

tlusty is younger and better then michalek at this point, and gleason (who's already stated he doesn't want to play in canada) is LIGHT YEARS better then either d-man you proposed to trade.........so i ask again, why the hell would they make that trade
- sensarmy_11

AlfieisKing refuses to awknowledge that Michalek's trade value is crap right now.

AlfieisKing refuses to awknowledge that Michalek's trade value is crap right now.
- Talkshowhost

Half true.

Michalek is an asset. On the right team they could resign for cheap. He isn't out of his prime and I still think he can put up decent points on a good fast team

Sensarmy11... Tlusty sucks this year. Gleason would be a pure salary dump. It's garbage for garbage. At least we get potential+speed in tlusty.

What I'm about to say I think really needs to be tried. Try not to criticize and actually think about it because I strongly think it's worth a shot: move Ryan with Spezza. Try Greening and Conacher on that line:

Greening-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Zibanejad- Keep line same
[G/M/C]-Smith-Neil
[G/M/C]-Grant-Condra

GMC [Greening/Michalek/Conacher]. I'd try all three but try and build chemistry btw Spezza and Ryan. I'd put Greening up with Spezza + Ryan to start.

Someone tell me if this has been used bcuz I think it has serious potential. Spezza deserves to have Ryan as his winger. MacArthur with Turris is a great second threat. Worst case you put the together; you don't risk losing chemistry or anything like that.

What I'm about to say I think really needs to be tried. Try not to criticize and actually think about it because I strongly think it's worth a shot: move Ryan with Spezza. Try Greening and Conacher on that line:

Greening-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Zibanejad- Keep line same

- AlfieisKing[G/M/C]-Smith-Neil
[G/M/C]-Grant-Condra

GMC [Greening/Michalek/Conacher]. I'd try all three but try and build chemistry btw Spezza and Ryan. I'd put Greening up with Spezza + Ryan to start.

Someone tell me if this has been used bcuz I think it has serious potential. Spezza deserves to have Ryan as his winger. MacArthur with Turris is a great second threat. Worst case you put the together; you don't risk losing chemistry or anything like that.

I don't think they're the worst combinations -- there's an argument, I think, for balancing the two lines. I've seen enough of Colin Greening, tho. Would try someone else.

It's the last paragraph I don't particularly understand. Why does Spezza deserve Ryan? He's been out-played by Turris for, I don't know, twenty-six straight games here. If anyone deserves the team's best winger, it's the team's best center.

I like Spezza and remain hopeful that he's going to turn his game around with time, but I think the Spezza 1LC ship has tentatively sailed away. Turris has been great, and Spezza's been really, really bad. In fact, he's on pace to give up the most goals of any F at even-strength in the last seven (plus?) years.

Also: if these lines did happen, I'd put my money on the MacArthur-Turris-Zibanejad line running better shot and goal margins than the team's "first" line. Wouldn't be a tough bet to make either. Bobby Ryan, elite first-line winger he is, can't carry two guys.

Ottawa needs to keep what's work together
- AlfieisKing[for the most part]

-> Call up J.G. Pageau [at least for 1 game]
-> Put wingers with Spezza [RYAN!]
-> Trade: Michalek + 62 or 77 + pick <> Tlusty + Gleason {CAR $1M next yr}

Tlusty-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Zibanejad
Conacher-Smith-Neil
Greening-Pageau-Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Gleason
Phillips-Borowiecki

Hahahahahah oh, king.

Ottawa should keep whats working together! **breaks up only good line, trades for a slumping player and an over the hill defenseman off of another team that can't play any defense**

I don't think they're the worst combinations -- there's an argument, I think, for balancing the two lines. I've seen enough of Colin Greening, tho. Would try someone else.

It's the last paragraph I don't particularly understand. Why does Spezza deserve Ryan? He's been out-played by Turris for, I don't know, twenty-six straight games here. If anyone deserves the team's best winger, it's the team's best center.

I like Spezza and remain hopeful that he's going to turn his game around with time, but I think the Spezza 1LC ship has tentatively sailed away. Turris has been great, and Spezza's been really, really bad. In fact, he's on pace to give up the most goals of any F at even-strength in the last seven (plus?) years.

Also: if these lines did happen, I'd put my money on the MacArthur-Turris-Zibanejad line running better shot and goal margins than the team's "first" line. Wouldn't be a tough bet to make either. Bobby Ryan, elite first-line winger he is, can't carry two guys.
- Travis Yost

Damn straight. Spezza isn't deserving of anything the way he's played to start the year.

Damn straight. Spezza isn't deserving of anything the way he's played to start the year.
- TommyDeVito

Keep Zib on his line, and I'm happy.

Spezza deserves to have Ryan as his winger. MacArthur with Turris is a great second threat.
- AlfieisKing

why does spezza deserve to have ryan as his wingeR? he's been outplayed by turris all season?