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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
Not if all goals are reviewable on a challenge, hence why it is given. If they deem that the goal was illegal, they call it back. Same as when it is kicked in, they call down to say it is being reviewed, this time you put it in the hands of a coach to have it checked.
- LeafMan


Any limit on the amount of times the flag can be thrown?
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Nov 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
When Franson and Fraser played third line minutes, they looked like gold. Ranger is out-leagued, he's a good 5-6 (as I have constantly said) but it is more apparent that we have too many 5-6 defensemen.

But trade Phaneuf - the only worthwhile defensemen (other than Rielly)...
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
The whole team is to blame, from upper management, to the coaching staff, to players, to the fans that don't make playing at the ACC intimidating at all.
- peddy-93

30% of those people are not fans.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Wilson now Carlyle. When do you blame the players for playing poorly?
- A_Tree

Or they are included.
I never really blamed Wilson, although I wasnt his biggest fan....he was giving a real sh!tty team to use.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Any limit on the amount of times the flag can be thrown?
- bixll

Only one I would guess, so you have to make pretty sure you have it right.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
That's the point of a coach challenge, isn't it?
- A_Tree

Like it is in the NFL. If the refs say it was out of bounds or not TD, coaches can challenge it was a TD, and vice versa.

They called a goal, the coach can challenge whether it was or not.
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Like it is in the NFL. If the refs say it was out of bounds or not TD, coaches can challenge it was a TD, and vice versa.

They called a goal, the coach can challenge whether it was or not.

- peddy-93

so much harder in the nhl. It seems a lot more tricky to me.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Only one I would guess, so you have to make pretty sure you have it right.
- LeafMan



Just thinking it would suck if the flag was used on the firt goal called back last night, and he had no flag to toss at the end of the game..
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Any limit on the amount of times the flag can be thrown?
- bixll

Nope, but when you lose a challenge you lose a timeout.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:29 PM ET
Nope, but when you lose a challenge you lose a timeout.
- peddy-93



You only get one timeout.
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:29 PM ET
Just thinking it would suck if the flag was used on the firt goal called back last night, and he had no flag to toss at the end of the game..
- bixll

but like torts said...inside 2 minutes. make it an automatic review. and get it right.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:29 PM ET
so much harder in the nhl. It seems a lot more tricky to me.
- Cherry--Skoal

So then make that kind of play reviewable. The call on the ice was a goal, but have it reviewed to see if it was a fair one.
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:29 PM ET
You only get one timeout.
- bixll

and you lose it
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Nov 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
Or they are included.
I never really blamed Wilson, although I wasnt his biggest fan....he was giving a real sh!tty team to use.

- Fakepartofme


comme ci comme ça
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
You only get one timeout.
- bixll

Would obviously have to issue out some different type of penalty if you lose the challenge.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
but like torts said...inside 2 minutes. make it an automatic review. and get it right.
- Cherry--Skoal



I like it.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
Or they are included.
I never really blamed Wilson, although I wasnt his biggest fan....he was giving a real sh!tty team to use.

- Fakepartofme


what do you mean you cant win with a top line of stajan blake and kessel?

GEESH
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
So then make that kind of play reviewable. The call on the ice was a goal, but have it reviewed to see if it was a fair one.
- peddy-93

i tihnk it is easier to determine if the nfl player caught the ball with 2 feet in. than to make sure a goal was fair or not. maybe its just me putting too much thought into it.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
Would obviously have to issue out some different type of penalty if you lose the challenge.
- peddy-93


10 lashes to the coach, or player of his choice.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
30% of those people are not fans.
- Cherry--Skoal

(frank)ing business (frank)ers
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
i tihnk it is easier to determine if the nfl player caught the ball with 2 feet in. than to make sure a goal was fair or not. maybe its just me putting too much thought into it.
- Cherry--Skoal



But did he have full control before the ball touches the ground. Seems like a simple call to make..

Both sports have there hard calls.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Nov 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
(frank)ing business (frank)ers
- peddy-93


Believe it or not, that crowd can be pretty damn lively if the on-ice product is putting on a good show.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
i tihnk it is easier to determine if the nfl player caught the ball with 2 feet in. than to make sure a goal was fair or not. maybe its just me putting too much thought into it.
- Cherry--Skoal

Maybe a replay of the goal can be seen upstairs immediately and on first replay, if there's some sort of doubt whether or not it was a fair goal, send the memo down and get the play reviewed.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
10 lashes to the coach, or player of his choice.
- bixll

That would make them think extra hard
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:34 PM ET
i tihnk it is easier to determine if the nfl player caught the ball with 2 feet in. than to make sure a goal was fair or not. maybe its just me putting too much thought into it.
- Cherry--Skoal

I don't know, maybe the coach has to tell the ref the specific reason, for ex. interference on the goalie denying him the chance to save it, they review it and if it is what the rule book says is interference, then yes it is called back.

I'm talking only goals, not high sticking penalties and such.
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