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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 25 @ 10:43 AM ET
Yeah, probably.

But Zubie's played over 1100 NHL games and has over 500-some points.

I think he's made himself a decent career for a guy who never played Major Junior.

- johndewar



Believe it or not, he's actually the #3-ranked points leader from that draft... only behind Briere and Kaberle, both who were chosen well after him. Not a bad pick at all... they just didn't have enough patience with him.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
Besides Huberdeau there was another young forward on Florida that played very well in the games against the Flyers last season.
Was it Shore?
What happened with that guy, traded or sent down?
He looked great in the few Florida games I watched last year, thought he would be a part of their rebuild.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
Besides Huberdeau there was another young forward on Florida that played very well in the games against the Flyers last season.
Was it Shore?
What happened with that guy, traded or sent down?
He looked great in the few Florida games I watched last year, thought he would be a part of their rebuild.

- Marc D



Sent down. He lost his roster spot to Barkov, Boyes and Bjugstad. I'm sure when Scottie Upshall gets hurt again, Shore will be back in the NHL.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 25 @ 10:52 AM ET

- BulliesPhan87


youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
Besides Huberdeau there was another young forward on Florida that played very well in the games against the Flyers last season.
Was it Shore?
What happened with that guy, traded or sent down?
He looked great in the few Florida games I watched last year, thought he would be a part of their rebuild.

- Marc D


I know what your talking about, but I dont think it was Shore... I think it was Meuller...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
I know what your talking about, but I dont think it was Shore... I think it was Meuller...
- youarewrong


Mueller?…Mueller?
flyersbuzz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.15.2013

Nov 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
Well, I'm ready to go over .500 for the season. Anyone else?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
Believe it or not, he's actually the #3-ranked points leader from that draft... only behind Briere and Kaberle, both who were chosen well after him. Not a bad pick at all... they just didn't have enough patience with him.
- Tomahawk


I liked Zubrus.

And they got Mark Recchi for him, who was quite productive here.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 25 @ 11:09 AM ET
I liked Zubrus.

And they got Mark Recchi for him, who was quite productive here.

- johndewar


I despised the way that Neilson handled Zubrus. Buried him, spotted him in bad situations and seemed to never be willing to put any kind of faith in him.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 25 @ 11:10 AM ET
Mueller?…Mueller?

- PhillySportsGuy


I want to win Ben Stein's money!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 25 @ 11:11 AM ET
I despised the way that Neilson handled Zubrus. Buried him, spotted him in bad situations and seemed to never be willing to put any kind of faith in him.
- Jsaquella


I just remember thinking that Zubrus was going to be good when he grew into himself, physically.

And it's not like they got back a bag of pucks for him. Mark Recchi was good here in that second Flyers stint.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
I just remember thinking that Zubrus was going to be good when he grew into himself, physically.

And it's not like they got back a bag of pucks for him. Mark Recchi was good here in that second Flyers stint.

- johndewar


Reecchi was very good for the Flyers, in both stints.

I forget the exact number, but Neilson scratched Zubrus like 15 games in a row or something, right before that deal.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 25 @ 11:16 AM ET
Reecchi was very good for the Flyers, in both stints.

I forget the exact number, but Neilson scratched Zubrus like 15 games in a row or something, right before that deal.

- Jsaquella


Yep, I remember something like that too.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 25 @ 11:18 AM ET
I just remember thinking that Zubrus was going to be good when he grew into himself, physically.

And it's not like they got back a bag of pucks for him. Mark Recchi was good here in that second Flyers stint.

- johndewar

And he did grow quite a bit, I think he was 6'2"ish then and is now 6'5".

I just remember a faceoff early in game 1 of the Finals against Detroit. They came to the dot, the place was rocking, and Eric turned to Zubie and said "Just calm down." Being an 18-year-old in the Finals was a bit wild for him, I'm guessing.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
Wow didn't even realize there are 6 outdoor games this year and the rangers play in two. Guess it's only a matter of time before very team plays one outdoor game a season.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
Wow didn't even realize there are 6 outdoor games this year and the rangers play in two. Guess it's only a matter of time before very team plays one outdoor game a season.
- funmaster18

They're seeing the Classic as a national game and the others not on Jan 1 as regional showcases. I can dig it. I won't go to any, I don't think. but it spreads the fun. Originally I thought it would dilute things, but as long as the Classic has Jan 1 to itself, it works for me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 25 @ 11:24 AM ET
Wow didn't even realize there are 6 outdoor games this year and the rangers play in two. Guess it's only a matter of time before very team plays one outdoor game a season.
- funmaster18


Amazingly enough, the Penguins are playing in one of the 6. Similarly amazingly enough, the Coyotes, Panthers, and Hurricanes are not in any of them.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 25 @ 11:26 AM ET
They're seeing the Classic as a national game and the others not on Jan 1 as regional showcases. I can dig it. I won't go to any, I don't think. but it spreads the fun. Originally I thought it would dilute things, but as long as the Classic has Jan 1 to itself, it works for me.
- bodiva88


I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. I do know if like to see a like to see every team to get a chance before teams get 2-3 appearances. Even if they need to play it at a neutral location to make it possible.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 25 @ 11:27 AM ET
They're seeing the Classic as a national game and the others not on Jan 1 as regional showcases. I can dig it. I won't go to any, I don't think. but it spreads the fun. Originally I thought it would dilute things, but as long as the Classic has Jan 1 to itself, it works for me.
- bodiva88


Eh, it's too much. They can call it whatever they want, but it's still an outdoor hockey game. If they had one outdoor game every day, but only called the one on January 1st "The Winter Classic," it's not as special. I understand that 6 is a far cry from 100+, but still, it was that ONE GAME A YEAR that was cool (2, if they needed to cater to the Canadians).

I've been to both of the Flyers' Winter Classics, and unless they do Flyers vs. Penguins at Penn State, I'm not going to shell out $250 to go sit outside in the cold for 5 hours. Honestly, when they had the one at CBP, the Alumni Game was a lot more fun.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 25 @ 11:29 AM ET
And he did grow quite a bit, I think he was 6'2"ish then and is now 6'5".

I just remember a faceoff early in game 1 of the Finals against Detroit. They came to the dot, the place was rocking, and Eric turned to Zubie and said "Just calm down." Being an 18-year-old in the Finals was a bit wild for him, I'm guessing.

- bodiva88


That's crazy when you think about it.

I doubt Zubrus had any relevant hockey experience in his past to compare to that.

He didn't play major junior in Canada and get Memorial Cup experience and wasn't part of any big European feeder system and almost certainly didn't play on a big stage, internationally at that point.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Nov 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
I couldnt stand Dovorsky, Magoo, van Massenhoven, and especially Shick.
- youarewrong


I think van helemond was my least favorite. Schick was awful too.
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Nov 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
It's on the front page of Hockeybuzz, in the upper corner under Panaccio's
- Jsaquella

Thanx!
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Nov 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
Eh, it's too much. They can call it whatever they want, but it's still an outdoor hockey game. If they had one outdoor game every day, but only called the one on January 1st "The Winter Classic," it's not as special. I understand that 6 is a far cry from 100+, but still, it was that ONE GAME A YEAR that was cool (2, if they needed to cater to the Canadians).

I've been to both of the Flyers' Winter Classics, and unless they do Flyers vs. Penguins at Penn State, I'm not going to shell out $250 to go sit outside in the cold for 5 hours. Honestly, when they had the one at CBP, the Alumni Game was a lot more fun.

- jmatchett383


we went down to tailgate the Rangers/Flyers classic a couple years ago...we ended up getting SIX FREE TICKETS (good ones!) when we walked past the stadium from some dude on our way to the broadstreet line. we were NOT dressed to stay the whole time, but it was pretty amazing. a goal on that penalty shot would have made it magical. i dig the outdoor hockey games.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
Eh, it's too much. They can call it whatever they want, but it's still an outdoor hockey game. If they had one outdoor game every day, but only called the one on January 1st "The Winter Classic," it's not as special. I understand that 6 is a far cry from 100+, but still, it was that ONE GAME A YEAR that was cool (2, if they needed to cater to the Canadians).

I've been to both of the Flyers' Winter Classics, and unless they do Flyers vs. Penguins at Penn State, I'm not going to shell out $250 to go sit outside in the cold for 5 hours. Honestly, when they had the one at CBP, the Alumni Game was a lot more fun.

- jmatchett383

+1

way to take a special event that even non-hockey fans watched and turn it into a diluted product.
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