Making music. http://thetalkhouse.com/reviews/view/lou-reed And this is just about his latest album. He has 3 other legitimately great hip hop albums. You can dislike him (I do), you can dislike his style of music (personal preference), but to say he's untalented is insincere. Guaranteed you ask any other major musician alive and they'll tell you Kanye's incredibly talented at making music.
- rollpards19

If you publicly call the self-proclaimed genius untalented, you are a racist.

As long as it's not Ray Ferraro or Pete McGuire....despise both those a-holes
- philco28

Bottom line though is the casual fan here in Canada will end up with great hockey.Judging by what the local fans on this blog where talking about earlier,there is no comparison in options or volume.It is still good to live in a hockey centric environment,even if it costs me a little more to watch a non Canadian team.

Exactly. They rip off old rock songs, put anything that rhymes to it and the idiots line up to make them rich. Queen, Bowie, Van Halen, Zeppelin, Marvin Gaye and numerous others have ripped off by these "musicians.". Hammer even ripped iff Rick James while James was still recording. They have no shame.
- Q...argh

You can't judge music by genre and characterize it as either good or bad as a whole. In any popular music form that attracts those only in it to make a quick buck, you'll get a lot of garbage. But it's not genre-specific. There's all levels of music in any genre you care to name, even though particular styles my not be to your taste.

Mos Def, for instance, is a hip-hop artist. He's also a musical genius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVj_zqQZShI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Case closed.

No talent Ass Clown...the very definition of one.
- Ogilthorpe2

Classic case of some basic background music and rapping anything that rhymes to it. What garbage.

You can't judge music by genre and characterize it as either good or bad as a whole. In any popular music form that attracts those only in it to make a quick buck, you'll get a lot of garbage. But it's not genre-specific. There's all levels of music in any genre you care to name, even though particular styles my not be to your taste.

Mos Def, for instance, is a hip-hop artist. He's also a musical genius.
- Tugboat

back in the 80s, I figured that run DMC would have their little run and then rap would die after a few years just like disco did. God was I ever wrong.

As a group, this board is clearly much more knowledgable about hockey than about music. LOL.

back in the 80s, I figured that run DMC would have their little run and then rap would die after a few years just like disco did. God was I ever wrong.
- Q...argh

Like it or not, much of the best contemporary American poetry is being expressed via hip-hop.

As a group, this board is clearly much more knowledgable about hockey than about music. LOL.
- Tugboat

Because we don't like (c)rap, the modern version of beatnik crap? Sorry, I disagree.

As a group, this board is clearly much more knowledgable about hockey than about music. LOL.
- Tugboat

I would think folks at a music board would know more about music than about hockey.

Because we don't like (c)rap, the modern version of beatnik crap? Sorry, I disagree.
- Q...argh

Ok I'll bite. What is "beatnik crap"?

Ok I'll bite. What is "beatnik crap"?
- Beaver-Warrior

The stuff where they played bongo's, tamborines or whatever and recited bad poetry in cadence.

I would think folks at a music board would know more about music than about hockey.
- Beaver-Warrior

This is absolutely true. The hockey insight is pathetic at my music forum, which is why I come here for that. Just sayin' that as far as music criticism is concerned, I'll continue to come here for the hockey.

If you publicly call the self-proclaimed genius untalented, you are a racist.
- Q...argh

NO

This is absolutely true. The hockey insight is pathetic at my music forum, which is why I come here for that. Just sayin' that as far as music criticism is concerned, I'll continue to come here for the hockey.
- Tugboat

Every so often I come upon a nugget of truth.

NO
- UnnamedSource

Frodo lives!

I go away for a few days and I come back to a discussion of Kanye West....WTF......someone propose a bad trade.....right now!!!

Every so often I come upon a nugget of truth.
- Beaver-Warrior

No doubt. I also recall some of the film discussion here to be lucid and insightful... What's up with JJ? This ship is rudderless....

Frodo lives!
- Beaver-Warrior

Hey Beav!

I go away for a few days and I come back to a discussion of Kanye West....WTF......someone propose a bad trade.....right now!!!
- UnnamedSource

Kane and Toews for Erat and Brouwer. Better?

I go away for a few days and I come back to a discussion of Kanye West....WTF......someone propose a bad trade.....right now!!!
- UnnamedSource

Keith for Shea Weber. IMHO this would be a very bad trade.

Keith for Shea Weber. IMHO this would be a very bad trade.
- Tugboat

Na its gotta be like....a Morin and Brookbank for.......James Neal. Totally one sided......

Bottom line though is the casual fan here in Canada will end up with great hockey.Judging by what the local fans on this blog where talking about earlier,there is no comparison in options or volume.It is still good to live in a hockey centric environment,even if it costs me a little more to watch a non Canadian team.
- eagle50

Kane and Toews for Erat and Brouwer. Better?
- powerenforcer

THis has potential but you need to flip the advantage...

NO
- UnnamedSource

Welcome back Source...glad all is well

I go away for a few days and I come back to a discussion of Kanye West....WTF......someone propose a bad trade.....right now!!!
- UnnamedSource

Welcome back US...missed you around here the last couple of days...I refuse to engage in arguments about tastes in food, music, women, etc..everyone is different...there is nobody on the face of the earth that could change my tastes so why bother...again, welcome back..