You make a fair point regarding the issue if they can resign him. However, how likely is it that Murray would trade for him without knowing all the salary issues your bringing up? He knows much more about all that than us here.

I was worried if he'd want to leave for the States when his contract was up, but we don't know.

It's not as black and white as your making it. We'll just have to wait and see. He may leave, he may not.
- david22

Sens can always swap Ryan for Heatley... Heatley has an expiring contract and he no doubt would sign for less.

could also re-sign Alfie for his swan song... 'cause he's gonna feel reborn after playing a season with the wings.

Sens can always swap Ryan for Heatley... Heatley has an expiring contract and he no doubt would sign for less.

could also re-sign Alfie for his swan song... 'cause he's gonna feel reborn after playing a season with the wings.


- BorjeFan4Ever

Chara is doing well wonder what it would take to get him out of Boston.

Chara is doing well wonder what it would take to get him out of Boston.
- Drapz

So's Rask, if you want your house full of holes.

Why? I don't think it's any coincidence it was shortly after Alfredsson jumped ship. Proverbial gun to head.

I'd also say that playing way over their head for a time gave them the idea their team was better than it really is.
- prock

Certainly possible, but the 2nd point doesn't address the issue of still needing to resign him.

Sens can always swap Ryan for Heatley... Heatley has an expiring contract and he no doubt would sign for less.

could also re-sign Alfie for his swan song... 'cause he's gonna feel reborn after playing a season with the wings.


- BorjeFan4Ever

Now you're being mean

Certainly possible, but the 2nd point doesn't address the issue of still needing to resign him.
- david22

You asked me why I think Murray would pull the trigger on the trade. If he thought they were a top team, it would mean the first round pick is lower, and it also gives Bobby Ryan more reason to stay. It could play a factor in Murray thinking it's a good trade.

You asked me why I think Murray would pull the trigger on the trade. If he thought they were a top team, it would mean the first round pick is lower, and it also gives Bobby Ryan more reason to stay. It could play a factor in Murray thinking it's a good trade.
- prock

Fair enough, and whehter he wants to stay is an issue, also with what Melnyk is saying about the teams finances. I just feel that Murray wouldn't make that knee jerk reaction, even with Alfredsson leaving without being aware of the financial ramifications of needing to resign Ryan.

Fair enough, and whehter he wants to stay is an issue, also with what Melnyk is saying about the teams finances. I just feel that Murray wouldn't make that knee jerk reaction, even with Alfredsson leaving without being aware of the financial ramifications of needing to resign Ryan.
- david22

you better hope so. and I mean seriously hope so. I have a strong feeling you guys are going to want his head on a platter next year.

It's a lot to give up if he re-signs. If he walks, that trade sets the Sens back several years.

Fair enough, and whehter he wants to stay is an issue, also with what Melnyk is saying about the teams finances. I just feel that Murray wouldn't make that knee jerk reaction, even with Alfredsson leaving without being aware of the financial ramifications of needing to resign Ryan.
- david22

Maybe Murray didn't know how bad the financial situation is? Ive seen Yost blog a few times of the tough economical situation Melnyk/Sens are in, and that Murray simply has no cap room to make any moves/roster improvements outside of the organization. Plus it's not as simple as just resigning Ryan, he's going to want a hefty raise of at least 2 million more. That almost forces the Sens hand, and Ryan's for that matter, to not return after this contract expires. It would also depend on how much importance Ryan puts into factors like location, teams ability to make the playoffs, team spending to win, line mates, coach etc etc

Like you said, and just about everyone concedes, he may still resign. That said, the list of reasons "against" is longer than the reasons "for".

As for the Alfredsson situation, it seemed like Murray knew enough that he couldn't have both and had to pick one. Logical choice in Ryan, but it speaks volumes about the financial handcuffs he has to operate with. Seems obvious Murray would shed other salaries and pay to keep Ryan, but how bad does Ryan want a chance at being an RFA and going to the highest bidder and his choice of destination as opposed to settling for mediocrity in Ottawa?