Bernier's calming presence has also cost us points this year.

I keep hearing about how superior Bernier is because of his "style". I'm sure there are plenty of guys with a more polished, traditional style than Reimer and even Bernier.

All I know is that every indicator right now says that if you want the best shot at winning games, you roll with Reimer. He stops pucks and wins games; the net is rightfully his.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Considering the assignments he's had I would agree.

I guarantee you in midst of an intense playoff game, you want a calming presence in net like Bernier. Reimer has big save ability, but his weird flop style can allow teams back into games with lucky bounces. He's an all or nothing goalie.

Bernier should develop into a goalie that can steal the 1-0, 2-0 games. In my opinion, more goals are needed to support Reimer, just because you never really know what your going to get on a given night.

Both goalies are good. But Bernier, in my opinion, is the more traditional style of goalie you want.
- ejeezy

Reimer has greatly improved the responsibleness in his game since last year.His rebound control has been improving every game and if it keeps improving, we could have the best of both worlds with Reimer. A sound calming influence and the ability to make the huge save.

If anything, Bernier has been letting in the cheesy bad goals. He did 2 or 3 games in a row there for a while. Granted the rest of the game he was close to 100 percent perfect so I'll let it slide and call it lack of experience.

this is not a shot at reamer but rather corsi.... he played great today but I would say all of his saves were clear shots from a distance.... not one of his saves tonight made me say wow that was awesome. However he did make all of them and for that is to be commended.... but another example of how shots on net is overated....

people who complain about the loser points make me laugh... if your tied your tied and get a point like the old days... the one's benefitting from the new rules are the OT and especially the shootout winners....

this is not a shot at reamer but rather corsi.... he played great today but I would say all of his saves were clear shots from a distance.... not one of his saves tonight made me say wow that was awesome. However he did make all of them and for that is to be commended.... but another example of how shots on net is overated....
- jribout

Didn't he stop like 6 one timers on a power play in a row that were like 5-10 feet inside the blue line?

people who complain about the loser points make me laugh... if your tied your tied and get a point like the old days... the one's benefitting from the new rules are the OT and especially the shootout winners....
- jribout

Wrong! In the "old days" if you were tied after three periods the game ended thus you earned a point for a tie. Now, you continue the game in overtime and if the other team scores you still get a point even though you lost the game (the other team gets the win). Thus, the term "loser point". The other team wins the game and earns a point but you lose the game and still get a point. There's no "loser points" in the playoffs

Didn't he stop like 6 one timers on a power play in a row that were like 5-10 feet inside the blue line?
- Sheppy99

with no traffick those are easy saves....

Wrong! In the "old days" if you were tied after three periods the game ended thus you earned a point for a tie. Now, you continue the game in overtime and if the other team scores you still get a point even though you lost the game (the other team gets the win). Thus, the term "loser point". The other team wins the game and earns a point but you lose the game and still get a point. There's no "loser points" in the playoffs
- Wilbur

You can call it whatever the (frank) you want the "extra point" comes from winning in OT or the shootout....

only gave up 50 shots tonight. impressive initiative from the Leafs.
- scotch_tape

is this guy for real? he was obviously watching the habs cling to dear life against the pens at home and not this game. 7 or 8 of those shots came on one pp, and the caps were throwing perimeter shots on net all night. I guess we couldn't get 5 pp's vs the caps like the habs did, refs only awarded us with one, deciding not to call anything in the last 10 mins (lupul hit from behind, phaneuf cross checked, Franson tripped).

I like how we are facing the teams #1 starter every game, whereas the habs often draw the backup (Mcehlinney, Talbot, Neuvirth, Giguere, Poulin before Nabakov got hurt) Cant wait till we play the habs next week so we can beat them again

As I said in the summer, the Bernier trade was pointless. Reimer is the real deal and Scrivens is as good as Bernier anyway. What a waste. Not a shot at Bernier, he'll be very good in the NHL, just a waste of assets and cap space.

As I said in the summer, the Bernier trade was pointless. Reimer is the real deal and Scrivens is as good as Bernier anyway. What a waste. Not a shot at Bernier, he'll be very good in the NHL, just a waste of assets and cap space.
- aminnes

...another guy who I don't understand why he is the subject of trade rumors.

What is wrong with having two good goalies. Maybe not top-5 in the league guys, but they are probably both above average.

Find 2 good stay at home Dmen on expiring contracts at the trade deadline. Leave the rest of it alone. The Leafs are not going to win a cup so let the good players on a young team continue to develop.
- Aetherial

amen again.

Nucks lost, should limit the troll train.

Wrong! In the "old days" if you were tied after three periods the game ended thus you earned a point for a tie. Now, you continue the game in overtime and if the other team scores you still get a point even though you lost the game (the other team gets the win). Thus, the term "loser point". The other team wins the game and earns a point but you lose the game and still get a point. There's no "loser points" in the playoffs
- Wilbur

Depends how far back you go. Many years ago, no points awarded to overtime losers. Then they started awarding points to OT losers, no shootout. Then about 6 or 8 years later they went to shootout.

Nucks lost, should limit the troll train.
- sloppyseconds2

In our thread or theirs?

beats me.....
- burn

Personally I think in the long run that Bernier will be more resilient........tougher and more consistent! Also, I think as a whole the Leafs will be a better team with Bernier and the Reimer trade assets than with Reimer and the Bernier trade assets! If that makes sense to anybody!?

Personally I think in the long run that Bernier will be more resilient........tougher and more consistent! Also, I think as a whole the Leafs will be a better team with Bernier and the Reimer trade assets than with Reimer and the Bernier trade assets! If that makes sense to anybody!?
- Bullot

You have nothing to base this on, pure speculation.

You have nothing to base this on, pure speculation.
- aminnes

Could be why he wrote "I think".

Could be why he wrote "I think".
- Yeti1181

This is no way a place to share your opinion.

This is no way a place to share your opinion.
- sloppyseconds2

I think the D tonight is what we should roll with, looked good. We have a couple AHL types to step in for injuries....

Didn't he stop like 6 one timers on a power play in a row that were like 5-10 feet inside the blue line?
- Sheppy99

35-40 foot unobstructed slapshots are not difficult saves. and shouldn't be.

Not one of those was a "prime scoring chance" IMO. Not a knock, just saying.

49/50 saves is awesome, no question.

But less then 10 were Prime Scoring Chances. and by that I mean the kind where you cheer when they don't score, cause you think they should have.

Leafs had more prime chances than Caps.

and again, not taking away from Reimer, just reinforcing the "who gives a (frank) about shots" debate.

but 50 is a lot

Stupid? Not at all.

You might not like it, but at 4 on 4, it's not likely to go on for too long. It works in baseball and basketball, and it can work in hockey. I don't see anything stupid about it.
- systemtool

NBC thinks it's stupid... is that better?

You can call it whatever the (frank) you want the "extra point" comes from winning in OT or the shootout....
- jribout

no, winning is 2 points. Sure, they discuss it as "playing for the extra point" but that is not factually correct. No points are actually awarded until the game is over and there is a winner, and the winner gets 2 points.

The extra point is for not losing in regulation

I think the D tonight is what we should roll with, looked good. We have a couple AHL types to step in for injuries....
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Trading Franson for a defensive defenseman would be great.....

no, winning is 2 points. Sure, they discuss it as "playing for the extra point" but that is not factually correct. No points are actually awarded until the game is over and there is a winner, and the winner gets 2 points.

The extra point is for not losing in regulation
- Big_Lightnin

The point may not be awarded until after the game.... but it is earned as soon as you make it to overtime... if people were updating points in the standings on the spot each team would be given a point as soon as they went to overtime.....