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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:35 PM ET
NBA plays 5 minute OTs in the regular season. Most MLB teams don't have to travel as they're in the city for 3-4 days.
- DTF69



And go until there is a winner. They don't go 5mins then have a dunk off.

Its possible that in baseball the final game of the series goes to extras right??
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:36 PM ET
right now.
- systemtool


I didn't even notice I did that. Yes, I'm embarrassed.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:36 PM ET
I didn't even notice I did that. Yes, I'm embarrassed.
- Jeffmt


Ive done it many times before. I loved it, don't be.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:37 PM ET
And the NFL doesn't and they play once a week.
- Drapz


They do do they not?? They play ot till someone wins.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:37 PM ET
With Bernier struggling, Reimer is saving our bacon right now.
- GCHonda


I don't know if I'd say Bernier is struggling. He didn't have a great game against Nashville but he's had more good games than bad.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Nov 23 @ 10:38 PM ET
right now.
- systemtool

DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 10:38 PM ET
And go until there is a winner. They don't go 5mins then have a dunk off.

Its possible that in baseball the final game of the series goes to extras right??

- burn


In the NBA and MLB the games don't go to extra time something like 22% of the time.

Also, scoring plays in baseball happen at least 3 times per half of an inning. And in basketball scoring plays happen at least once every 24 seconds with teams scoring on roughly 60% of them.

Hockey doesn't have the same default offensive structure.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
I figured out the problem here. The Habs have won 3 in a row, and Scotch Tape wants to troll, and troll hard, but the Leafs won too and still have more points than his team. So he can't just come here and say "ha, we won and you lost!" or "ha, my team has more points than your team" or "ha, the Leafs were outscored"...so he rolled with all he had to roll with... "ha, your goalie is awesome but your team lost the battle of shot totals, but ironically won the shootout. so there Leaf fans, ha to you!"
- systemtool






Reimer stopped more shots than the other goalie in the shootout.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
Optimus Reim does it again. This is a #1 goalie battle? What a flippin' joke

#dealbernie
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
The Smart ones don't ...
- Byfuglien Ate Me



I wouldn't say this is true...
Trading from a position of strength for a position of need has never been a "dumb" move in pro sports.

However, it all depends on what the return is.....
If Leafs could acquire a true number 1 center (would cost more then just Reimer), it would be for from dumb. If the Leafs trade Reimer for another 2nd line quality center it would definitely be dumb.
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
They do do they not?? They play ot till someone wins.
- burn


Apparently I had my 2012 rule book out.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
In the NBA and MLB the games don't go to extra time something like 22% of the time.

Also, scoring plays in baseball happen at least 3 times per half of an inning. And in basketball scoring plays happen at least once every 24 seconds with teams scoring on roughly 60% of them.

Hockey doesn't have the same default offensive structure.

- DTF69



The first part is relevant. No idea what the 2nd part has to do with anything.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:43 PM ET
Optimus Reim does it again. This is a #1 goalie battle? What a flippin' joke

#dealbernie

- Skalapy


I think in the future we're all going to be segregated along the line of people who used to hashtag and people who didn't.

And we might finally get hover boards.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:44 PM ET
I wouldn't say this is true...
Trading from a position of strength for a position of need has never been a "dumb" move in pro sports.

However, it all depends on what the return is.....
If Leafs could acquire a true number 1 center (would cost more then just Reimer), it would be for from dumb. If the Leafs trade Reimer for another 2nd line quality center it would definitely be dumb.

- Cooshie


That position of strength is one injury away from being a position of need, therefore, it's not a position you can spare.
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
Optimus Reim does it again. This is a #1 goalie battle? What a flippin' joke

#dealbernie

- Skalapy


What does that even mean? Why would they deal Bernier at this point? Makes no sense. It's been a great goaltending battle.
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
The first part is relevant. No idea what the 2nd part has to do with anything.
- burn


The default offensive structure of the sport lending itself to offence to differentiate and create separation in the score.

Most teams in hockey average about 10 shots a period and when the average save percentage is about .920 it can be very easy for multiple over times to occur. Mix in coaches caring more about defence than offence and the way hockey is played doesn't lend itself to the same game system that other sports use.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
I think in the future we're all going to be segregated along the line of people who used to hashtag and people who didn't.

And we might finally get hover boards.

- Jeffmt

First one ever! Don't know what they're for
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
That position of strength is one injury away from being a position of need, therefore, it's not a position you can spare.
- systemtool


Leafs have holes to fill which are more important than having 2 number 1 goalies on their roster. Most top teams have 1 true number 1 and a capable backup. Leafs could probably trade for a capable backup for very little.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:47 PM ET
What does that even mean? Why would they deal Bernier at this point? Makes no sense. It's been a great goaltending battle.
- blahman20


Because if one of our players is great then another player has to suck, that's just classic Leafs wisdom.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
First one ever! Don't know what they're for
- Skalapy


You're not the only one.

But I was being a Richard, sorry about that.
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
That position of strength is one injury away from being a position of need, therefore, it's not a position you can spare.
- systemtool


Right and find a number one C that is $6m cap hit and is so much better than Bozak that he is worth trading Reimer for its not going to be worth it.

If Reimer keeps this up, how much and how long do we pay him?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
In the NBA and MLB the games don't go to extra time something like 22% of the time.

Also, scoring plays in baseball happen at least 3 times per half of an inning. And in basketball scoring plays happen at least once every 24 seconds with teams scoring on roughly 60% of them.

Hockey doesn't have the same default offensive structure.

- DTF69


The thing is, hockey has scoring plays quite often. I mean, having the puck on a players stick in the offensive zone, or a shot towards the net, is pretty much the same as baseball players up at bat 3 times a half inning. In addition, in hockey, a team scores and it's over. But in the two sports you mention in your example, the play goes on in certain situations even if a team scores, allowing the team that falls behind a chance to catch up.

Point is, hockey can increase their OT time played before going to shootout. There really is no reason not to. Play it 4 on 4 and let them go until someone scores. At worst, make the OT 10, 15 or even 20 minutes. If nobody scores end it in a tie or let the goof fans have their gimmick shootout.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 23 @ 10:49 PM ET
That position of strength is one injury away from being a position of need, therefore, it's not a position you can spare.
- systemtool



Agreed.... and whos' to say that bernier is 100% ready to carry the mail right now. He's looked really good at times and fallen back to average at times. Who's to say that without Reimer pushing him he doesn't fall back??

Trading a goalie right now isn't the way to go. I sad it in the summer when people were saying Reimer is gone by the end of the summer that a trade like that wont happen till at least next summer if that. Might be 2 summers away.


Trading a young goalie like reimer isn't an in season move. It's an offseason move.
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 10:50 PM ET
The thing is, hockey has scoring plays quite often. I mean, having the puck on a players stick in the offensive zone, or a shot towards the net, is pretty much the same as a baseball player up at bat 3 times a half inning. In addition in hockey, a team scores and it's over. But in the two sports you mention in your example, the play goes on in certain situations even if a team scores, allowing the team that falls behind a chance to catch up.

Point is, hockey can increase their OT time played before going to shootout. There really is no reason not to. Play it 4 on 4 and let the go until someone scores.

- systemtool


They could increase it, sure. 10 minutes. But unlimited is stupid.
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 10:50 PM ET
I don't know if I'd say Bernier is struggling. He didn't have a great game against Nashville but he's had more good games than bad.
- Jeffmt



Not ragging on Bernier but the way the Leafs are playing with their low scoring, Reimer seems better suited for their style. Don't know if it's too much pressure for Bernier, hanging onto one goal leads for so long while facing soooooooooo many shots. Reimer seems to handle it better. Bernier is very good make no mistake, but the way the Leafs are playing now, Reims is the guy

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