I don't think we're after anyone
- shvingter88

My guess would be draft picks.

My guess would be draft picks.
- FAZOOL

Is this draft even deep?

Also Lou won't trade any of clowe Ryder Bruner because we just signed them
- shvingter88

I doubt even if we kept half of clowes contract could we trade him. Ryder i agree on Brunner not so much if there's a move to be made i doubt he hesitates to ship Damien out of here. No rules against trading people you just signed.

Is this draft even deep?
- NickA

Don't know but i'm not sure if that even matters to Lou.

Don't know but i'm not sure if that even matters to Lou.
- FAZOOL

winning is all that matters so I already know we will never rebuild. He isn't ever selling off anyone for picks, if he didn't last year he won't this year. Always in it to win it. Especially with that whole drafting Matteau and not forfeiting that years first fiasco forcing us to lose this years first.

Adam Larsson out with lower body injury, I swear he never plays when I go to the game...

On the bright side, Merrill recalled, hope he plays tonight. I know Volchenkov may be back as well.

Not anyone specifically but he has to be looking to make a move. Need to free up space on the back end still and all signings besides Jagr have been horrible. We need to add a forward who has some size and decent skill. I would love a sniper but I just don't see how we can with the lack of talent on the roster, no 1st rd draft pick and shallow prospect pool.
- NickA

So what do we trade to make room on the front end? Teddy and JJ?

I doubt even if we kept half of clowes contract could we trade him. Ryder i agree on Brunner not so much if there's a move to be made i doubt he hesitates to ship Damien out of here. No rules against trading people you just signed.
- NickA

No kidding there's no rules like that, but that's not how Lou operates.

Adam Larsson out with lower body injury, I swear he never plays when I go to the game...

On the bright side, Merrill recalled, hope he plays tonight. I know Volchenkov may be back as well.
- MannySilvers

Mother(frank)er that sucks. Hopefully Merril gets in at least. Look at these lines Brunner-Elias-Bernier
Henrique- Lokti-Ryder

This poop drives me crazy. why im open to adding moulson at least he is better than Brunner and Lokti...These lines (frank)ing blow and i'll be shocked if they produce or even generate anything. Brunner with Elias...Why does Deboer hate Elias what did he do to deserve such an bumhole as his winger. Guys ill go sacrifice that cow now in hopes the gods show some love to brunner and he digs his head out of his ass finally.

Management of this team frustrates the hell out of me. Henrique on the wing has never worked. Elias isn't a center even though he has played the position I would say we just down graded everything we had.

Management of this team frustrates the hell out of me. Henrique on the wing has never worked. Elias isn't a center even though he has played the position I would say we just down graded everything we had.
- blizzzard

It's because they cater to guys like Lokti and Brunner...I don't understand this at all why i want to trade the both of them they don't fit the team's identity at all. I would say play Elias-henrique-Bernier together but understand why he won't. You can not throw Brunner-Lokti-ryder together how scary would that (frank)ing be?

Idk how anyone could be against dropping this dead weigh for Matt Moulson or anyone who could be available and is a UFA at seasons's end. At least they may fit and if not his contract is up at seasons end at should only cost us two soft schmucks. I don't even like Moulson all that much but he's absolutely a better hockey player than Lokti and Brunner it's not even a debate.

It's because they cater to guys like Lokti and Brunner...I don't understand this at all why i want to trade the both of them they don't fit the team's identity at all. I would say play Elias-henrique-Bernier together but understand why he won't. You can not throw Brunner-Lokti-ryder together how scary would that (frank)ing be?

Idk how anyone could be against dropping this dead weigh for Matt Moulson or anyone who could be available and is a UFA at seasons's end. At least they may fit and if not his contract is up at seasons end at should only cost us two soft schmucks. I don't even like Moulson all that much but he's absolutely a better hockey player than Lokti and Brunner it's not even a debate.
- NickA

It doesn't amtter who we get because it will be the same people running the team making the same decisions that don't work and we will be the same team that floats around 500 all season to miss out by 2 points have no first round pick.

Management of this team frustrates the hell out of me. Henrique on the wing has never worked. Elias isn't a center even though he has played the position I would say we just down graded everything we had.
- blizzzard

The sad thing about Elias is he is just as good at faceoffs as Henrique and is better than Lokti and Gio...Are centers are that bad. The problem comes wiht Brunner being useless not playing with Elias even though he is pretty much useless with him as well and Lokti's inability to play wing and be an average center. I want Henrique with Elias as much as you but if we do that than we have a third line that looks like this Brunner-Lokti-Ryder/Bernie...Can't have that I sort of understand why it's like this and it sucks.

It doesn't amtter who we get because it will be the same people running the team making the same decisions that don't work and we will be the same team that floats around 500 all season to miss out by 2 points have no first round pick.
- blizzzard

It does matter if you can actually find 4 lines that work. Right now we have one and then like 5-6 guys who are playing alright on offense. Chemistry is everything and the 2nd/3rd lines have none.

The sad thing about Elias is he is just as good at faceoffs as Henrique and is better than Lokti and Gio...Are centers are that bad. The problem comes wiht Brunner being useless not playing with Elias even though he is pretty much useless with him as well and Lokti's inability to play wing and be an average center. I want Henrique with Elias as much as you but if we do that than we have a third line that looks like this Brunner-Lokti-Ryder/Bernie...
- NickA

Yea but we are the only or one of the only teams in the league that feels that you can't have a line like that there has to be ony defensive plug on every line or it can't be a line it's garbage like that that I get sick of. I could care less if the guy can't play defense worth a poop. Our problem isn't defense or keeping pucks out of the nets it's scoring sometimes I think Lou should go be a gm for a soccer club or go be a gm of a team like Pheonix where there are 10 fans he can piss off with all his rules and old aged methods. Take Deboer with him.

Yea but we are the only or one of the only teams in the league that feels that you can't have a line like that there has to be ony defensive plug on every line or it can't be a line it's garbage like that that I get sick of. I could care less if the guy can't play defense worth a poop. Our problem isn't defense or keeping pucks out of the nets it's scoring sometimes I think Lou should go be a gm for a soccer club or go be a gm of a team like Pheonix where there are 10 fans he can piss off with all his rules and old aged methods. Take Deboer with him.
- blizzzard

Umm no this is why Edmonton still sucks and is why we hate Brunner, Ryder, Lokti, and teddy. Cause they can't do anything except occasionally make a good offensive play while 85% of the time is spent playing like soft idiots. We coudn't do anything against SJ and LAK for most of the game because of how soft and bad in our own end some of our guys are as well as on the fore check. The best teams all play solid team D and don't sacrifice defense for goals.

Yea but we are the only or one of the only teams in the league that feels that you can't have a line like that there has to be ony defensive plug on every line or it can't be a line it's garbage like that that I get sick of. I could care less if the guy can't play defense worth a poop. Our problem isn't defense or keeping pucks out of the nets it's scoring sometimes I think Lou should go be a gm for a soccer club or go be a gm of a team like Pheonix where there are 10 fans he can piss off with all his rules and old aged methods. Take Deboer with him.
- blizzzard

And it's not about having a defensive plug on a line. You can't play one way hockey in the (frank)ing NHL and expect to win. Elias is offensive and as skilled as anyone but he sure as hell doesn't neglect his defensive responsibilities...

Umm no this is why Edmonton still sucks and is why we hate Brunner, Ryder, Lokti, and teddy. Cause they can't do anything except occasionally make a good offensive play while 85% of the time is spent playing like soft idiots. We coudn't do anything against SJ and LAK for most of the game because of how soft and bad in our own end some of our guys are as well as on the fore check. The best teams all play solid team D and don't sacrifice defense for goals.
- NickA

Edmonton is bad because every single one of their lines is offensive minded not because 1 is. You won't see Boucher up here until he has forgotten how to score. Elite offensive players don't learn how to play defense first before they get a chance guys like Spezza and Kessel didn't start back checking and blocking shots until they where 26. I would hate to piss away our only really offensive prospect because he isn't the greatest on the other side of the puck this is exactly what is happening to our last batch of first round picks. Tedenby is wasted there is no saving or fixing him as the damage has been done. Had been groomed to play his game first then slowly improve his defensive game he might be an NHL producer by now but we seem to do things backwards. Look at the players we have developed since Elias have any of them put up more then 60 points ? I think Zajac did it once but I seriously doubt if he ever does again. Our scouting staff never seems to draft the pure scorers they only draft two way guys then wonder why they never make it up or produce. I think we might have one of the longest streaks of not being able to draft or develope a 70 pt player so that hole has to be tried and filled through f/a or trade which isn't a great way to acquire that type of talent.

And it's not about having a defensive plug on a line. You can't play one way hockey in the (frank)ing NHL and expect to win. Elias is offensive and as skilled as anyone but he sure as hell doesn't neglect his defensive responsibilities...
- NickA

I'm certainly not saying everyone should not worry about their defensive responsibilities but 1 line wouldn't huirt when the rest of the team is so defensive minded. You hope that the all offense line can dominate in the other end for their shift more often then not so they won't need to back check as much as the other lines. Loktionov, Ryder and Brunner should be a line so we aren't making better players worse by playing them in positions they aren't as good at.

It's because they cater to guys like Lokti and Brunner...I don't understand this at all why i want to trade the both of them they don't fit the team's identity at all. I would say play Elias-henrique-Bernier together but understand why he won't. You can not throw Brunner-Lokti-ryder together how scary would that (frank)ing be?

Idk how anyone could be against dropping this dead weigh for Matt Moulson or anyone who could be available and is a UFA at seasons's end. At least they may fit and if not his contract is up at seasons end at should only cost us two soft schmucks. I don't even like Moulson all that much but he's absolutely a better hockey player than Lokti and Brunner it's not even a debate.
- NickA

I don't think anyone is against it. It's just not going to happen. That's all.

Ship them out for picks. Bring up Reid Boucher.

Ship them out for picks. Bring up Reid Boucher.
- ElvisLemieux

Too offensive minded for our teams liking.

Edmonton is bad because every single one of their lines is offensive minded not because 1 is. You won't see Boucher up here until he has forgotten how to score. Elite offensive players don't learn how to play defense first before they get a chance guys like Spezza and Kessel didn't start back checking and blocking shots until they where 26. I would hate to piss away our only really offensive prospect because he isn't the greatest on the other side of the puck this is exactly what is happening to our last batch of first round picks. Tedenby is wasted there is no saving or fixing him as the damage has been done. Had been groomed to play his game first then slowly improve his defensive game he might be an NHL producer by now but we seem to do things backwards. Look at the players we have developed since Elias have any of them put up more then 60 points ? I think Zajac did it once but I seriously doubt if he ever does again. Our scouting staff never seems to draft the pure scorers they only draft two way guys then wonder why they never make it up or produce. I think we might have one of the longest streaks of not being able to draft or develope a 70 pt player so that hole has to be tried and filled through f/a or trade which isn't a great way to acquire that type of talent.
- blizzzard

You make a good point about our developing players its been pitiful recently. But uhh ya forgot about the Parise. He turned out alright If your theory was absolutely true than guys like Brunner and Lokti would be getting praised by us right now as they both have been giving golden opportunities to produce with good players and pretty skilled guys. But what happens when the play with Jagr and Elias? They can't produce or generate much because they suck in the d zone and struggling to move the puck up the ice cleanly and maintain puck possession. When you can't do that it's near impossible to score which is what we have been witnessing. You need to give skill a little bit of a leash but when they can't do the simple things like breakout, cycle, fore check, and be strong on the boards they can't be trusted game in and game out. Hell even shift in and shift out. Your not going to score a goal or even set one up every game but one thing you can do every game is play solid d and not hurt the team. I'll take the safe boring players over the marginally skilled forwards.

Edmonton is bad because every single one of their lines is offensive minded not because 1 is. You won't see Boucher up here until he has forgotten how to score. Elite offensive players don't learn how to play defense first before they get a chance guys like Spezza and Kessel didn't start back checking and blocking shots until they where 26. I would hate to piss away our only really offensive prospect because he isn't the greatest on the other side of the puck this is exactly what is happening to our last batch of first round picks. Tedenby is wasted there is no saving or fixing him as the damage has been done. Had been groomed to play his game first then slowly improve his defensive game he might be an NHL producer by now but we seem to do things backwards. Look at the players we have developed since Elias have any of them put up more then 60 points ? I think Zajac did it once but I seriously doubt if he ever does again. Our scouting staff never seems to draft the pure scorers they only draft two way guys then wonder why they never make it up or produce. I think we might have one of the longest streaks of not being able to draft or develope a 70 pt player so that hole has to be tried and filled through f/a or trade which isn't a great way to acquire that type of talent.
- blizzzard

Parise did it too

I'm certainly not saying everyone should not worry about their defensive responsibilities but 1 line wouldn't huirt when the rest of the team is so defensive minded. You hope that the all offense line can dominate in the other end for their shift more often then not so they won't need to back check as much as the other lines. Loktionov, Ryder and Brunner should be a line so we aren't making better players worse by playing them in positions they aren't as good at.
- blizzzard

I agree with that but your whole one line won't hurt the team isn't true. I'd be shocked if that line dominated anybody's 4th line...They would more than likely give up at least a goal a game. We don't have any offensive guys that are that good you can look the other way at there defensive deficiencies.