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daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 19 @ 8:56 PM ET
Here's the kicker: last year, while Franson was being proclaimed the best defenseman on the team, his ES TOI/GA was the second worst on the team behind Holzer.

Gardiner was near the top (in an admittedly smaller sample size).

Franson's never been a great defender. He's a #5 (maybe #4 with a good partner) who should be playing most teams' #1 PP unit. It's kind of a weird combination, but it will ensure he gets overpaid.

- Leeman4Gilmour

I like that he's picked up his physical game but yeah, he's a guy with a smart shot and ok passing ability but his defensive coverage is awful.
Badge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Frank you Frankin Frankers, ON
Joined: 07.22.2010

Nov 19 @ 8:56 PM ET
On the flip side, Franson has had as many (and arguably more) bad games.

Ranger is good for a catastrophic mistake now and again, but at least he can stabilize and settle into a good rythym when he's on.

- Leeman4Gilmour


this.

Rangers makes gaffs, so does everybody. But he's solid most of the time, and he's gotten a lot more comfortable on the PK.

plus he's nasty. He absolutely buries somebody every game. Half the time it's after the whistle
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Nov 19 @ 8:56 PM ET
This is nuts!

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 19 @ 8:57 PM ET
for the season... but a significant margin.
1. Gunnar 51
2. Dion 40
3. Franson 31

- Badge


Well, to be fair, that's because Gunnar plays the PK. Dion and Franson play the PP. You're going to have to block more shots if you play the PK as opposed to the PP.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 19 @ 8:58 PM ET
I like that he's picked up his physical game but yeah, he's a guy with a smart shot and ok passing ability but his defensive coverage is awful.
- daeth

Ergo...partner him with another guy with awful defensive coverage!

Wait...ah poop.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Nov 19 @ 8:58 PM ET
this.

Rangers makes gaffs, so does everybody. But he's solid most of the time, and he's gotten a lot more comfortable on the PK.

plus he's nasty. He absolutely buries somebody every game. Half the time it's after the whistle

- Badge


Franson will make a dozen small mistakes during a game, while Ranger makes one or two.

But, man, when Ranger (frank)s up, he makes it count!
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Nov 19 @ 8:59 PM ET
After I believe. When he pushed Okposo off the puck causing the turnover, got it out then blocked a shot.
- AdamFrench

I wish he had the mobility he had a couple years ago, he was an automatic getting the puck out, not so much this year.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 19 @ 8:59 PM ET
Kypreos talking trade. Says Brayden Schenn could probably be had for Jake Gardiner.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 19 @ 8:59 PM ET
I wish he had the mobility he had a couple years ago, he was an automatic getting the puck out, not so much this year.
- LeafMan

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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Frank you Frankin Frankers, ON
Joined: 07.22.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:00 PM ET
Well, to be fair, that's because Gunnar plays the PK. Dion and Franson play the PP. You're going to have to block more shots if you play the PK as opposed to the PP.
- systemtool


Dion plays more PK than Gunnar
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:00 PM ET
Well, to be fair, that's because Gunnar plays the PK. Dion and Franson play the PP. You're going to have to block more shots if you play the PK as opposed to the PP.
- systemtool


Gunnarsson is making a believer out of me.

A healthy Gunnarsson is the #2D we've been looking for. And he'll always be underpaid because he doesn't put up ridiculous point totals.
Badge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Frank you Frankin Frankers, ON
Joined: 07.22.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:00 PM ET
Kypreos talking trade. Says Brayden Schenn could probably be had for Jake Gardiner.
- fifty__missions


actually that's not what he said. That's what a Cannucks fan would have heard him say though...


Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 19 @ 9:01 PM ET
Dion plays more PK than Gunnar
- Badge

Those 2 seconds are the difference makers.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 19 @ 9:01 PM ET
Kypreos talking trade. Says Brayden Schenn could probably be had for Jake Gardiner.
- fifty__missions

Do it.

Now.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Frank you Frankin Frankers, ON
Joined: 07.22.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:01 PM ET
Franson will make a dozen small mistakes during a game, while Ranger makes one or two.

But, man, when Ranger (frank)s up, he makes it count!

- Leeman4Gilmour


Franson 12 pts, -2
Ranger 6 pts, +4'

Badge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Frank you Frankin Frankers, ON
Joined: 07.22.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:02 PM ET
Those 2 seconds are the difference makers.
- AdamFrench


in defeating his point? yes, yes they are
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 19 @ 9:02 PM ET
Dion plays more PK than Gunnar
- Badge


More than Franson.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 19 @ 9:02 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m
When Jeff Finger signed with TOR in 08 and we were told it was a $3.5M deal, we said total $? For four years? We were told, no, $3.5M AAV.

Old man Fletch was a moron in round 2.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:03 PM ET
Do it.

Now.

- daeth


This would actually be hilarious after all the effort we went through to land BSchenn when we had Luke.

Dump Luke, pick up Brayden. Sounds good.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 19 @ 9:03 PM ET
Gunnarsson is making a believer out of me.

A healthy Gunnarsson is the #2D we've been looking for. And he'll always be underpaid because he doesn't put up ridiculous point totals.

- Leeman4Gilmour


Well, guess we have differing opinions. I would love to ditch him and his 3 mill+ cap hit.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 19 @ 9:04 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m
When Jeff Finger signed with TOR in 08 and we were told it was a $3.5M deal, we said total $? For four years? We were told, no, $3.5M AAV.

Old man Fletch was a moron in round 2.

- AdamFrench


That was a pretty random comment.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM ET
Can't get over how quick jvr is, considering his size.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM ET
Rumblings about B.Schenn for Gardiner...
- systemtool

B. Schenn is soooooo over-rated.

Pass.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM ET
Franson 12 pts, -2
Ranger 6 pts, +4'

- Badge


That pretty much tells the story.

If Franson wasn't so valuable for his right handed shot, I'd be shopping him harder than Gardiner right now.

He'd bring more back in a trade and he's set to be overpaid.
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Nov 19 @ 9:05 PM ET
Will he ever
- AdamFrench



I doubt Phaneuf and Franson will both be here next year. Being a RFA we can keep franson then trade his rights in the summer, we need a right handed shooting defender back though
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