Would be awesome if GMmg could broker luo back to Florida tonight.

Luo booth Hansen
for Campbell Gomez upshaw


Then Timmy Thomas can get sent to Calgary or the isles

I think that Gomez do well with Kesler on the wing actually
- TJTD

Ahem, this is season number three of mediocre...
- 1970vintage

By mediocre I think he means missing the playoffs entirely.

I'd be ok with one season of that IF management did have a well-conceived and forward looking plan. The issue is I'm really not convinced he does or is capable.

By mediocre I think he means missing the playoffs entirely.

I'd be ok with one season of that IF management did have a well-conceived and forward looking plan. The issue is I'm really not convinced he does or is capable.
- AlexF

I don't think you have to miss the playoffs entirely in order to have a strategy and execute it successfully. So, no, I am not willing to cheer for a "mediocre" team, if I was I'd be an Oilers fan.

I don't think you have to miss the playoffs entirely in order to have a strategy and execute it successfully. So, no, I am not willing to cheer for a "mediocre" team, if I was I'd be an Oilers fan.
- 1970vintage

Mediorcre is the Leafs, Edmonton is awful.

Mediorcre is the Leafs, Edmonton is awful.
- Marwood

I stand corrected

How were the brownies?

Mediorcre is the Leafs, Edmonton is awful.
- Marwood

Unless you are over 35 and could have enjoyed the glory years there is no reason I can see cheering for the oilers.

I don't think you have to miss the playoffs entirely in order to have a strategy and execute it successfully. So, no, I am not willing to cheer for a "mediocre" team, if I was I'd be an Oilers fan.
- 1970vintage

I'd agree but we don't have the minds in upper management of a DET or seemingly SJ. Don't look for well-executed strategies from MG, unless you find scouring the waiver wire and/or seeking the next reclamation project as a Stanley Cup winning strategy.

It's also occurred to me recently that, in the one area Gillis actually does get major points on (re-signing contracts at moderate cap hits) he can only get the job done by throwing in NTCs. This creates a wholly different problem child which we might be seeing now in any efforts to improve this team via trade.

Unless you are over 35 and could have enjoyed the glory years there is no reason I can see cheering for the oilers.
- SMP8719

Unless you're from Edmonton because, like, they literally have nothing else going...

Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika
Avs are eighth in the West with 28 points. Bolts are first in the East with 28 points.

I'd agree but we don't have the minds in upper management of a DET or seemingly SJ. Don't look for well-executed strategies from MG, unless you find scouring the waiver wire and/or seeking the next reclamation project as a Stanley Cup winning strategy.

It's also occurred to me recently that, in the one area Gillis actually does get major points on (re-signing contracts at moderate cap hits) he can only get the job done by throwing in NTCs. This creates a wholly different problem child which we might be seeing now in any efforts to improve this team via trade.
- AlexF

Yeah, my point wasn't that I think MG will or can. It was a hypothetical, WOULD you be willing to cheer for the Canucks this season as they tank for a high pick with the payoff being they put it together next season. For me, its a no, because I don't think you have to "suck" to get better. Agree on the NTC. If I were a GM I'd have a no NTC policy and would find other ways to add incentive to play here. Although, I don't mind some of the limited NTC that some guys have. A short list of places a player does not want to get traded to is pretty fair, as long as that list is provided in the body of the contract so if I do want to trade them I don't have to come to them first and ask.

Yeah, my point wasn't that I think MG will or can. It was a hypothetical, WOULD you be willing to cheer for the Canucks this season as they tank for a high pick with the payoff being they put it together next season. For me, its a no, because I don't think you have to "suck" to get better. Agree on the NTC. If I were a GM I'd have a no NTC policy and would find other ways to add incentive to play here. Although, I don't mind some of the limited NTC that some guys have. A short list of places a player does not want to get traded to is pretty fair, as long as that list is provided in the body of the contract so if I do want to trade them I don't have to come to them first and ask.
- 1970vintage

I'm actually not sure how this works but I'd imagine it's not in the body of the contract. Simply put if a player signs a 6 year contract, a lot can happen to the fortunes of the other teams in the league during that time.

What also sucks about a NTC is that if you ask a player to waive his NTC for a trade and it ends up falling through then the guy understands loud and clear that he's playing for a team that wants him shipped out. Not the greatest environment.

I'm actually not sure how this works but I'd imagine it's not in the body of the contract. Simply put if a player signs a 6 year contract, a lot can happen to the fortunes of the other teams in the league during that time.

What also sucks about a NTC is that if you ask a player to waive his NTC for a trade and it ends up falling through then the guy understands loud and clear that he's playing for a team that wants him shipped out. Not the greatest environment.
- AlexF

Yeah, that's why I would want it stipulated in the contract. Or at the very least, a new list submitted at the start of every season.

I stand corrected

How were the brownies?
- 1970vintage

Epic battles with forest elves and woodland creatures, bison wrestling and snipe hunting. Pretty good.

How's your hangover?

Epic battles with forest elves and woodland creatures, bison wrestling and snipe hunting. Pretty good.

How's your hangover?
- Marwood

#9 "The Pardon"

http://www.buzzfeed.com/s...-of-hangover-weve-all-had

Losing streak continues, Canucks still haven't hit rock bottom, 7-3 Cats Goc doubles his yearly goal total and scores 5 tonight.

#9 "The Pardon"

http://www.buzzfeed.com/s...-of-hangover-weve-all-had
- 1970vintage

Thank you, that was a funny read!!

Yeah, that loss wasn't due to bad play. Just lack of finish(surprise, surprise) and a very good goalie.
- Nucker101

We do tend to make many goalies look good though.......