Remember when you thought grabner was better than hagelin? Goood times
- rangerdanger94

Still do. Can't fault the guy. He's getting six minutes a night playing with Regin and the second coming of Jon Sim with no PP time. Would love to see what Hagelin would do with that? Move along kid.

must have beena slow day...terrible idea...what a train wreck.
- LetsGoIsles

Brodeur a train wreck? Then that makes Nabby the Titanic & the Edmund Fitgerald combined.
I'd take Marty in a heartbeat over Nabby. He's only the greatest goalie ever. Albeit on the downside but Nabby looked worse in the first 20 games this year than in last years playoffs. Brodeur a starter on most nhl teams regardless. And if it were truly a terrible idea, Garth would have been all up in that sh!t.

Islanders better get their shat together bcs the rest of the division is starting to play.

no riot here, just no need for him. Is Marty currently good enough to win many more games with this defense than Poulin? Is he capable of playing for the next month without a break at a high level? Maybe. Is it worth giving the Devils an asset to take a chance on him? I don't think so. If we started talking about Miller or Hiller, or Halak, you'd have me interested. Not interested in Marty
- Isles_since_6

Cant believe all the attention Miller gets. He's lost whatever it was that he had & he's the biggest crybaby of any goalie in nhl. Glad he doesnt want to play here. Overrated and past his prime.

Still do. Can't fault the guy. He's getting six minutes a night playing with Regin and the second coming of Jon Sim with no PP time. Would love to see what Hagelin would do with that? Move along kid.
- Cptmjl

At this point, i'd take a chance on Eric Heiden, if he could stick handle. Grabs becoming Mr Inconsistency. No wonder Fla & Van gave up
on him.

At this point, i'd take a chance on Eric Heiden, if he could stick handle. Grabs becoming Mr Inconsistency. No wonder Fla & Van gave up
on him.
- jmo16

He hasn't been playing well but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the guy gets no ice time and he's playing with some complete garbage. It just may have something to do with it?

Go get Hiller

He hasn't been playing well but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the guy gets no ice time and he's playing with some complete garbage. It just may have something to do with it?
- Cptmjl

Grabner has no hands, he could play with Gretzky and kurri and still couldn't hit water if he jumped out of a boat. He needs to play like he did in games 2-6 against Pittsburgh. He hasn't done that until then he is what he is a third line player

Go get Hiller
- the_cause2000

Hiller has been garbage this year and hasn't resembled a good goalie in a few years now

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- Vukota

AWESOME!!!


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Remember when you thought grabner was better than hagelin? Goood times
- rangerdanger94

Who?

XxNYIxX

Remember when you thought grabner was better than hagelin? Goood times
- rangerdanger94

He is but that doesn't say much.

Grabner has no hands, he could play with Gretzky and kurri and still couldn't hit water if he jumped out of a boat. He needs to play like he did in games 2-6 against Pittsburgh. He hasn't done that until then he is what he is a third line player
- Dan Petriw

He has no hands and never will but he's still a 30 goal scorer and one of the most effective players on the team when given a chance. You can't sit there and say playing with those plugs gives him a chance. I'm not going to sit here and defend the guy but NOBODY would be all that effective under those circumstances. Just like Nino wasn't Grabner won't be. He's not a perfect player I have a handle on what his capabilities are but he's being misused. Shocker, like so many others on this team. Capuano, moron. The guy is an effective PK'er and has seen reduced ice time in that sense. How's the PK been? I'll leave it at that.

He has no hands and never will but he's still a 30 goal scorer and one of the most effective players on the team when given a chance. You can't sit there and say playing with those plugs gives him a chance. I'm not going to sit here and defend the guy but NOBODY would be all that effective under those circumstances. Just like Nino wasn't Grabner won't be. He's not a perfect player I have a handle on what his capabilities are but he's being misused. Shocker, like so many others on this team. Capuano, moron. The guy is an effective PK'er and has seen reduced ice time in that sense. How's the PK been? I'll leave it at that.
- Cptmjl

Yeah the pk has been awesome. He is a 17-22 third line goal scorer which isn't awful. Teams have caught up with him. If he doesn't get space he doesn't do much else. Also when he did hit 30 goals he was attacking the net more. He's not doing that either. Blaming the coach I'm sorry is a cop out. If he wasn't invisible he would be getting more ice time. If he played like he did in games 2-6 against Pitt when he was in the fourth line and he would be a top six forward.

Yeah the pk has been awesome. He is a 17-22 third line goal scorer which isn't awful. Teams have caught up with him. If he doesn't get space he doesn't do much else. Also when he did hit 30 goals he was attacking the net more. He's not doing that either. Blaming the coach I'm sorry is a cop out. If he wasn't invisible he would be getting more ice time. If he played like he did in games 2-6 against Pitt when he was in the fourth line and he would be a top six forward.
- Dan Petriw

I agree, I always have been a Grabner supporter but he is current like 0/30 on his last 30 scoring chances, where probably 20/30 of them were high probability chances.

He has no hands and never will but he's still a 30 goal scorer and one of the most effective players on the team when given a chance. You can't sit there and say playing with those plugs gives him a chance. I'm not going to sit here and defend the guy but NOBODY would be all that effective under those circumstances. Just like Nino wasn't Grabner won't be. He's not a perfect player I have a handle on what his capabilities are but he's being misused. Shocker, like so many others on this team. Capuano, moron. The guy is an effective PK'er and has seen reduced ice time in that sense. How's the PK been? I'll leave it at that.
- Cptmjl

He did play a handful of game on the top line with JT and did nothing. With that said he should be playing with Neilsen & Baily or Okposo. He has chemistry with those guys. We all know he is streaky and he is long overdue to go on a tear. I think its a little of both. I don't think he is playing with the proper guys but at the same time he is getting chances regardless of who he is playing with and not burying them.

I know most of you guys hate basketball but I like to compare Grabner to a player who flourishes in the full court up and down game but who is not as effective in the half court game. That's why you don't really see him on the PP. His hands aren't good enough for the quick short passing that is required on the pp. He is not the greatest passer either. He is a speedster and that is his biggest asset and that's why he is good on the pk because he is flying all over the place trying to disrupt them and getting in the passing lanes etc etc. Like I said he is streaky and he is still getting chances every game once he finally gets one or two I think we will start to see the Grabner of last year and a couple of years ago

He did play a handful of game on the top line with JT and did nothing. With that said he should be playing with Neilsen & Baily or Okposo. He has chemistry with those guys. We all know he is streaky and he is long overdue to go on a tear. I think its a little of both. I don't think he is playing with the proper guys but at the same time he is getting chances regardless of who he is playing with and not burying them.

I know most of you guys hate basketball but I like to compare Grabner to a player who flourishes in the full court up and down game but who is not as effective in the half court game. That's why you don't really see him on the PP. His hands aren't good enough for the quick short passing that is required on the pp. He is not the greatest passer either. He is a speedster and that is his biggest asset and that's why he is good on the pk because he is flying all over the place trying to disrupt them and getting in the passing lanes etc etc. Like I said he is streaky and he is still getting chances every game once he finally gets one or two I think we will start to see the Grabner of last year and a couple of years ago
- Vukota

Maybe try him with cizikas and Martin again he had some chemistry with them

Yeah the pk has been awesome. He is a 17-22 third line goal scorer which isn't awful. Teams have caught up with him. If he doesn't get space he doesn't do much else. Also when he did hit 30 goals he was attacking the net more. He's not doing that either. Blaming the coach I'm sorry is a cop out. If he wasn't invisible he would be getting more ice time. If he played like he did in games 2-6 against Pitt when he was in the fourth line and he would be a top six forward.
- Dan Petriw

Bouchard? Need I say more(I will)? Blaming the coach is not a cop out. I know you're fond of him Dan but this isn't a debate worth even having. Cop out it's not. Reducing a players ice time after he pretty much won the game opening night and demoting him to a line that has barely serviceable NHL players is moronic. No debate, I'll just completely disagree with you. It's easy to blame him now playing what he's playing and who with. Guy probably threw his hands up? I hope they trade him, he doesn't deserve the treatment he's received by our moron coach. It's not shocking his game has suffered I'll give him credit for lasting as long as he has. Half this board is crying about Moulson who was half the hockey player overall as Grabner. Any coach would be salivating to have as versatile a player. Capuano doesn't have a clue.

He did play a handful of game on the top line with JT and did nothing. With that said he should be playing with Neilsen & Baily or Okposo. He has chemistry with those guys. We all know he is streaky and he is long overdue to go on a tear. I think its a little of both. I don't think he is playing with the proper guys but at the same time he is getting chances regardless of who he is playing with and not burying them.

I know most of you guys hate basketball but I like to compare Grabner to a player who flourishes in the full court up and down game but who is not as effective in the half court game. That's why you don't really see him on the PP. His hands aren't good enough for the quick short passing that is required on the pp. He is not the greatest passer either. He is a speedster and that is his biggest asset and that's why he is good on the pk because he is flying all over the place trying to disrupt them and getting in the passing lanes etc etc. Like I said he is streaky and he is still getting chances every game once he finally gets one or two I think we will start to see the Grabner of last year and a couple of years ago
- Vukota

I do agree with this. He hasn't been playing well. I'm not defending grabner bcs I have some man crush on him. I think he's not being used properly. Shocker with a coach that only makes smart decisions when he's forced due to a player getting injured. As a fan it makes me nauseous that I have to hope for a player to get injured for the right personnel decisions to be made. JT and Grabner will never be a good combo, always said this. Any one of us could see the chemistry he had with Bailey and Okposo and Nielsen and Okposo. It's not rocket science. Yeah Okposo has put up some points but if you're going to diversify your scoring you have to do what works. This hasn't even been revisited during this span of shat games this team has played? It's more of a hatred for the player(Grabner)than anything else. It's not any of our imagination. The guy gets his chances but when a player needs more to succeed why not give him every opportunity especially when it benefits the team dynamic unless there is something more to it?

I have a feeling one of Grabner or Bailey will be traded.

Strome is currently playing well and as everyone agrees he should/will be called up half way through the season, and when he does we will have an over abundance of forwards

He has no hands and never will but he's still a 30 goal scorer and one of the most effective players on the team when given a chance. You can't sit there and say playing with those plugs gives him a chance. I'm not going to sit here and defend the guy but NOBODY would be all that effective under those circumstances. Just like Nino wasn't Grabner won't be. He's not a perfect player I have a handle on what his capabilities are but he's being misused. Shocker, like so many others on this team. Capuano, moron. The guy is an effective PK'er and has seen reduced ice time in that sense. How's the PK been? I'll leave it at that.
- Cptmjl

you gotta stop hanging onto that 1 season a few years ago that grabner netted 36 goals. i mean...cheechoo scored 50 once. so did heatley. you should go sign them both to super deals and claim they're 1st line wingers in the right situation because they did something some time ago.

I do agree with this. He hasn't been playing well. I'm not defending grabner bcs I have some man crush on him. I think he's not being used properly. Shocker with a coach that only makes smart decisions when he's forced due to a player getting injured. As a fan it makes me nauseous that I have to hope for a player to get injured for the right personnel decisions to be made. JT and Grabner will never be a good combo, always said this. Any one of us could see the chemistry he had with Bailey and Okposo and Nielsen and Okposo. It's not rocket science. Yeah Okposo has put up some points but if you're going to diversify your scoring you have to do what works. This hasn't even been revisited during this span of shat games this team has played? It's more of a hatred for the player(Grabner)than anything else. It's not any of our imagination. The guy gets his chances but when a player needs more to succeed why not give him every opportunity especially when it benefits the team dynamic unless there is something more to it?
- Cptmjl

i bet that even if cappy was fired and a whole new coaching staff was brought in, grabner would be back on the 3rd line within 3 weeks. it's not cappy's fault that grabner is buried there, it's the fact that grabner's only asset is speed. he can't pass the puck, he can't shoot it, he can't catch a pass and make a play, he can't do anything besides skate a straight line.

you gotta stop hanging onto that 1 season a few years ago that grabner netted 36 goals. i mean...cheechoo scored 50 once. so did heatley. you should go sign them both to super deals and claim they're 1st line wingers in the right situation because they did something some time ago.
- rangerdanger94

Check his ice time and his line mates and get back to me. Make a valid point. At least attempt or try thinking. Itll help you down the line. Trust me on that. Btw. Healtey if he were on your team he would be your best fwd till nash got back.

i bet that even if cappy was fired and a whole new coaching staff was brought in, grabner would be back on the 3rd line within 3 weeks. it's not cappy's fault that grabner is buried there, it's the fact that grabner's only asset is speed. he can't pass the puck, he can't shoot it, he can't catch a pass and make a play, he can't do anything besides skate a straight line.
- rangerdanger94

He may be on the third line? Maybe with nielsen and bailey or okposo? Was one of the best lines we had but you wouldn't know that. Would you?

Grabner has assets you can't teach and no one else in lineup has.

We are always complaining about how he went 0-3 on breakaways the night before. But name another islander that has even one breakaway a game?

This guy creates scoring opportunities by himself.
Cappy does ruin him. Grab misses one back check and cappy exiles him. yet others can get max min and be invisible.

And yes grab should be a mainstay on pk. And he should be getting pp time over regin and Colin McDonald.