I don't recall suggesting a Laughton for Rundblad swap...


I might even look to shoot lower than EJ or Myers... Cam Fowler, Kulikov, Rundblad... any one of those guys would help to improve the overall quality of the d-corps.
- jmatchett383

I put on my glasses and still can't see the name Laughton in there...

He is also a great value. He gets paid slightly more then Streit and is among the top scoring defensman in the leauge.
- youarewrong

He scores a lot, but he gives a lot back.

Think about it. Why do you think the fans are so interested in trading him? They see him on a regular basis.

I think we're on the same page. My only point is that, regardless of roster composition (to a point), if you have good players, you find a way to play them. If a clear upgrade can be made to the team (especailly at a position of weakness from a position of strength), then I'm not opposed.
- jmatchett383

Yep, that's all I'm saying. It's not about trying to trade Laughton, it's about trying to improve the team

I put on my glasses and still can't see the name Laughton in there...
- Tomahawk

We were discussing what type of return Laughton could get. So I assumed you were talking about the same topic.

But okay, who were you suggesting we trade for Rundblad?

His overall game is inconsistent. He doesn't play well in his own end. I just don't like him. I'm not overly impressed with a guy who can just put up points. If I'm trading significant prospects, I want a good all around defenseman.

He's basically the offensive version of Grossmann. Grossmann is good defensively, but offers nothing in terms of offense. Buff is good offensively, but offers very little in terms of defense.
- PhillySportsGuy

To me, it's not so much about offensive production or defensive warts. It's about his ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone and into the offensive zone. Flyers are not very good at that, and it's the major reason why the offense hasn't been good this year.

You can't win consistently in today's game by dumping and chasing. You need guys who can carry the puck in the zone -- which is why the offense was so good when Jagr was here.

Byfuglien would add a much needed weapon to both even-strength and the power play. I would give up a lot to acquire him.

He scores a lot, but he gives a lot back.

Think about it. Why do you think the fans are so interested in trading him? They see him on a regular basis.
- PhillySportsGuy

Now he sounds like the 2011/2012 Danny Briere.

To me, it's not so much about offensive production or defensive warts. It's about his ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone and into the offensive zone. Flyers are not very good at that, and it's the major reason why the offense hasn't been good this year.

You can't win consistently in today's game by dumping and chasing. You need guys who can carry the puck in the zone -- which is why the offense was so good when Jagr was here.

Byfuglien would add a much needed weapon to both even-strength and the power play. I would give up a lot to acquire him.
- bradleyc4

Like what? Keeping in mind, tearing a hole into your offense and/or prospect pool for 1 player on defense will just make you have to address other needs.

Phoenix has OEL locked up at 5.5 per until 2018-2019.

6 years from now he will only be 28. Just saying....

We were discussing what type of return Laughton could get. But okay, who were you suggesting we trade for Rundblad?
- jmatchett383

#30-90 pick(s), anybody off the Phantoms, or some combination thereof.

I only crap on Streit, sorry.

I'm a big Luke Schenn fan -- don't think he'll come anywhere close to meeting draft-day expectations, but that's not a concern for me.
- Tomahawk

Eh, wasnt directing exactly at you... more like people saying Schenn isn't worth much, yet they want to trade Laughton for a player the same age, runbald or Fowler, that is not as good....

30-90 pick(s), anybody off the Phantoms, or some combination thereof.
- Tomahawk

I would trade a 3rd+4th rounder for him, not a 2nd. I would trade anybody not named Lauridsen, Cosuins, or Alt from the Phantoms for him.

To me, it's not so much about offensive production or defensive warts. It's about his ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone and into the offensive zone. Flyers are not very good at that, and it's the major reason why the offense hasn't been good this year.

You can't win consistently in today's game by dumping and chasing. You need guys who can carry the puck in the zone -- which is why the offense was so good when Jagr was here.

Byfuglien would add a much needed weapon to both even-strength and the power play. I would give up a lot to acquire him.
- bradleyc4

I agree with you in terms of puck carrying. I just don't think it's smart to give up a lot to fill that need this year. This team is not winning a cup this year with or without Byfuglien.

Like what? Keeping in mind, tearing a hole into your offense and/or prospect pool for 1 player on defense will just make you have to address other needs.
- jmatchett383

Anyone and anything not numbered 10, 14, 28 or 93.

Ancient, with a case of being out of shape.
- PLindbergh31

Awesome. I look forward to a bunch of us being signed by Ruben Amaro, Jr.

Anyone and anything not numbered 10, 14, 28 or 93.
- bradleyc4

So 14 players and 2 goalies?

Phoenix has OEL locked up at 5.5 per until 2018-2019.

6 years from now he will only be 28. Just saying....
- PLindbergh31

When you take into account age, skill, salary and potential, he's one of the most coveted players in the entire league.

Awesome. I look forward to a bunch of us being signed by Ruben Amaro, Jr.
- Flyskippy

Eh, wasnt directing exactly at you... more like people saying Schenn isn't worth much, yet they want to trade Laughton for a player the same age, runbald or Fowler, that is not as good....
- youarewrong

Nobody is saying that they'd trade Laghton for Rundblad.

And Cam Fowler? He's pretty damned good. Like leading one of the best teams in the NHL in ice time good

I would trade a 3rd+4th rounder for him, not a 2nd. I would trade anybody not named Lauridsen, Cosuins, or Alt from the Phantoms for him.
- jmatchett383

Whatever it is, it would be a lot cheaper to take that gamble on Rundblad than pay what is required to go after EJ/Meyers or Byfuglien, which was the point I was trying to make, but was probably doing a poor job of making it.

I don't think it helps them one bit to move heaven and earth for anything other than a sure-bet + young + #1 dman. Short of that, I'd rather them concentrate on poaching more Alts and Coburns, even more Schenns... upgrade the d-corps overall, versus putting all the eggs in one basket.

He scores a lot, but he gives a lot back.

Think about it. Why do you think the fans are so interested in trading him? They see him on a regular basis.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yes, and Philly fans were clamoring to trade JVR... so not the best arguement.

When you take into account age, skill, salary and potential, he's one of the most coveted players in the entire league.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yep! Hope he's a Flyers in 19-20.

I agree with you in terms of puck carrying. I just don't think it's smart to give up a lot to fill that need this year. This team is not winning a cup this year with or without Byfuglien.
- PhillySportsGuy

At age 28, it's not as if Byfuglien is going to retire next summer, so they could have him for several years, not just this year

I agree with you in terms of puck carrying. I just don't think it's smart to give up a lot to fill that need this year. This team is not winning a cup this year with or without Byfuglien.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think they're in the hunt if they acquire Byfuglien. Depending on how much it costs, though.

Weber on waivers.










Yannick, that is.

At age 28, it's not as if Byfuglien is going to retire next summer, so they could have him for several years, not just this year
- Jsaquella

We're talking about a guy who hasn't taken care of his body. One of his greatest assets is his skating. The decline may start sooner than you think.