habs12
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Location: Cole Harbour, NS Joined: 04.29.2008
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Listened to the last half on the radio.
Calgary, more turnovers than a bakery - pete26
Go for the championship at home |
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BingoLady
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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Not talking about documantaries but rather your token, CGI-ridden, Hollywood fodder. - Not_Stee
I see that but you did say movies in your post. |
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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STEE VS HOLLYWOOD - mr.peanut
Still a lot of allegory in even so called mindless films.
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pete26
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON Joined: 11.20.2008
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eat the potato - Pie
I have no idea what this means.
But it struck me funny. |
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habs12
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Cole Harbour, NS Joined: 04.29.2008
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Still a lot of allegory in even so called mindless films. - BingoLady
Howard would be proud |
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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Still a lot of allegory in even so called mindless films. - BingoLady
i was told that movies are for the weak and feeble minded you know the kind that need google |
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BingoLady
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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i was told that movies are for the weak and feeble minded you know the kind that need google - mr.peanut
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BingoLady
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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Star Wars is actually about nature versus technology. Evil things are personified as being high tech and metallic; Darth Vader is easily recognizable as the evil creature who is "more machine than man, twisted and evil". But who said that? Oni Wan Kenobi.
Obi Wan lives in solitude in the desert, in a rudimentary hut (like another Jedi master). He specifically says he's never owned a droid. He hates the new blaster weapons and idolizes an "elegant weapon from a more civilized age." He emphasizes feeling over technology.
Luke is caught in the middle somewhere. He has a droid, R2-D2 who is his closes companion, like a loyal dog. He is an expert pilot and a novice mechanic. He uses machines without becoming them.
On the way to destroying the Death Star, Luke is robbed of his friendly machine and must use the full potential of his humanity to defeat... The biggest machine ever created. (With a lot of visual symbolism of insemination but I think that's probably a whooole other can of worms)
If that's not enough, Luke is literally turned into a cyborg at the end of Empire, after losing his hand.
All this is compounded in the final act of Return of the Jedi when Luke is about to kill Vader, looks at his mechanical hand and realizes he is becoming a machine (notice how much more stiff and cold he was in Return of the Jedi? That wasn't wooden acting, it was part of his character arc) And Vader, despite being mostly machine, saves Luke in the end.
But here's the thing: This whole story has been challenging Obi-Wan and Yoda who hate technology and only use it when there's no other choice. (They especially dislike droids, although Yoda is less passive-aggressive about it) Obi-Wan asserts that Darth Vader is evil through and through, because he is more machine than man. He was wrong. Vader's humanity was suppressed, not destroyed. And the Emperor, the most evil character, is purely organic, and also purely savage and animalistic - the worst distortion of Obi-Wan's nature worshipping.
In the end Luke becomes the perfect synthesis of both these arguments. He is a creature of the new age, forged by soul and metal together.
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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D... Joined: 08.07.2013
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STEE VS HOLLYWOOD - mr.peanut
Stee - Torontonians are freaking out thinking that Sandy will wipe out the city. I don't think it will.
Paul - HOAX-ICANE!!!! HOME DEPOT HARPER OBAMA SPEED DIAL!!!!! SPOON ASS!!!
Stee - I enjoy movies but I don't take them seriously.
Paul - STEE VS HOLLYWOOD |
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Pie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: taking the low road Joined: 10.14.2006
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Star Wars is . - BingoLady
This whole thing makes me wild with anger..full of redundancy and exclusion. |
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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Stee - Torontonians are freaking out thinking that Sandy will wipe out the city. I don't think it will.
Paul - HOAX-ICANE!!!! HOME DEPOT HARPER OBAMA SPEED DIAL!!!!! SPOON ASS!!!
Stee - I enjoy movies but I don't take them seriously.
Paul - STEE VS HOLLYWOOD - Not_Stee
you're like a quebec history textbook... |
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BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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I have no idea what this means.
But it struck me funny. - pete26
pete your cake day is on Wed. |
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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D... Joined: 08.07.2013
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you're like a quebec history textbook... - mr.peanut
Are you comparing me to QP? |
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Pie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: taking the low road Joined: 10.14.2006
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Are you comparing me to QP? - Not_Stee
that would be silly |
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pete26
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON Joined: 11.20.2008
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pete your cake day is on Wed. - BingoLady
Can't lie.
I scrolled around for the answer.
My oldest boy's birthday too |
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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Are you comparing me to QP? - Not_Stee
no, your constant revisionist history to put yourself in a better light |
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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D... Joined: 08.07.2013
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Here's the funny thing...
I love Chris Nolan. I mention the fact that I doze off after 2 hours because I have the attention span of a housefly and Asp rips on me whilst praising Nolan (even though I wasn't knocking Nolan).
I praise Nolan tonight and French rips on me yapping about hype and nerds jerking off.
I... just... can't... win. |
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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D... Joined: 08.07.2013
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no, your constant revisionist history to put yourself in a better light - mr.peanut
Honestly, why would I put myself in a worse light? (unless I was wrong) |
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Pie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: taking the low road Joined: 10.14.2006
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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Honestly, why would I put myself in a worse light? (unless I was wrong) - Not_Stee
if you see reality as the worse light then yes |
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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tear down the walls..plz - Pie
nah man, this communist thing might work out, the '80s and beyond will be ours! |
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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D... Joined: 08.07.2013
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if you see reality as the worse light then yes - mr.peanut
I admit when I'm wrong. You... not so much. |
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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edit: nvm, you'll just try to make a mountain out of this mole hill |
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Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Newly appointed ambassador of the Nordiques thread Joined: 10.12.2009
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STEE VS HOLLYWOOD - mr.peanut
Hollywood uses google, so that's like cheating.
edit : oh damn |
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