Pete V
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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Adding to earlier post:
Craig Custance @CraigCustance 6m
If EDM unhappy with him, Larionov said Yak open to trade: "We're willing to make a move. Any team. That happens and that's part of life." - NYR245
Wow! Seems like Larionov might be trying to force a move here. |
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What do you guys think about talking to the Panthers about Gudbranson? He has struggled early in his career, but I can see him turning the corner and becoming a very strong defensemen, who also has a right handed shot. Not sure what his status is down there, however. - Pete V
Making only 900k this year, RFA after the season, so unsure if Florida will look to move unless they think he gets a lot as an RFA, but worth a look. |
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mighty13duck
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Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY Joined: 01.26.2009
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I found this funny from NHL.com. A Ranger fan wrote Stamkos will never score more than 30 goals again and a Pens fan responded "He broke his leg, he didn't get traded to the rangers" |
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cranford93
New York Rangers |
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Location: "For Whatever Reason" Joined: 04.30.2007
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I found this funny from NHL.com. A Ranger fan wrote Stamkos will never score more than 30 goals again and a Pens fan responded "He broke his leg, he didn't get traded to the rangers" - mighty13duck
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pcjr307
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Location: NY Joined: 07.13.2007
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JoeyG1951
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Location: Campbell River, BC Joined: 05.23.2010
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Making only 900k this year, RFA after the season, so unsure if Florida will look to move unless they think he gets a lot as an RFA, but worth a look. - airjan23
He is going nowhere. He is a first rounder just coming into his own and will be a corner stone for years to come. The kid is tough and can score. |
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Adding to earlier post:
Craig Custance @CraigCustance 6m
If EDM unhappy with him, Larionov said Yak open to trade: "We're willing to make a move. Any team. That happens and that's part of life." - NYR245
Doesn't it concern anybody that this young kid with all the talent in the world is already being given up on by the team that drafted #1 overall just over a year ago? Buyer beware and I know the kid has immense talent but ultimately Kreider would have to be part of a deal and I am liking not only his offensive potential but has shown some snarl and is developing into a real physical force on the ice. Just a red flag for me is all I am saying... |
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Wow! Seems like Larionov might be trying to force a move here. - Pete V
Now, having posted what I just posted...if Larionov is going to force a move, perhaps the price comes down...then I'd do it... |
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Pete V
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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Doesn't it concern anybody that this young kid with all the talent in the world is already being given up on by the team that drafted #1 overall just over a year ago? Buyer beware and I know the kid has immense talent but ultimately Kreider would have to be part of a deal and I am liking not only his offensive potential but has shown some snarl and is developing into a real physical force on the ice. Just a red flag for me is all I am saying... - Blueshirts4ever
There is definetely risk involved with acquiring him, there is no doubt about that. But, he did lead the Oilers in scoring last year (as a 19 year old rookie), and as you said, he has immense potential. As far as the team giving up on him, the Bruins gave up on Thornton, and even Steve Stamkos was on the verge of being traded to the Rangers, before upper management pulled the plug on that.
Personally, I don't see the Rangers giving up either Kreider or McDonagh in any deal with the Oilers. I think if a deal happens it will be your typical Slats trade with something like Del Zotto, Miller and a 1st going back the other way. I think it is unlikely that Edmonton would take that deal, but I don't think Slats would go much above that. So, I guess, I don't really see a deal happening, unless Edmonton's hand really gets forced by Yak wanting out of town.
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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There is definetely risk involved with acquiring him, there is no doubt about that. But, he did lead the Oilers in scoring last year (as a 19 year old rookie), and as you said, he has immense potential. As far as the team giving up on him, the Bruins gave up on Thornton, and even Steve Stamkos was on the verge of being traded to the Rangers, before upper management pulled the plug on that.
Personally, I don't see the Rangers giving up either Kreider or McDonagh in any deal with the Oilers. I think if a deal happens it will be your typical Slats trade with something like Del Zotto, Miller and a 1st going back the other way. I think it is unlikely that Edmonton would take that deal, but I don't think Slats would go much above that. So, I guess, I don't really see a deal happening, unless Edmonton's hand really gets forced by Yak wanting out of town. - Pete V
I can see a deal happening between the two teams. You both have what each other needs. I don't think it'll be for MDZ though? He is not what the Oilers need. Sather has proved his worth lately with trades and he'll find some way too make this happen so it doesn't involve Macdonaugh. If Yak goes I'm thinking it'll be to you guys. |
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Pete V
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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I can see a deal happening between the two teams. You both have what each other needs. I don't think it'll be for MDZ though? He is not what the Oilers need. Sather has proved his worth lately with trades and he'll find some way too make this happen so it doesn't involve Macdonaugh. If Yak goes I'm thinking it'll be to you guys. - Cptmjl
I don't necessarily disagree with you about MDZ not being the perfect fit for them, but he is the player that has been brought up most by the "insiders" (i.e., Dreger, Kyprios, et) in discussing the deal. Neither Staal or Girardi are good targets for them given their upcoming free agent status, so who does that leave?
So, I guess what I am saying is that I'm not 100% sure that the Rangers have what they want, if Staal and Girardi are non-starters, because I just don't see the Rangers moving McDonagh for him in a million years. |
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jimbro83
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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McDonagh isn't going anywhere, maybe to the Hall of Fame after about 15 years, that's about it.
All of these defensemen got these 6 million plus a year contracts, like Pieterangelo, Doughty, Letang.
4.7 million a year for six years for McD, and I'd rather have him over any one of them. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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I don't necessarily disagree with you about MDZ not being the perfect fit for them, but he is the player that has been brought up most by the "insiders" (i.e., Dreger, Kyprios, et) in discussing the deal. Neither Staal or Girardi are good targets for them given their upcoming free agent status, so who does that leave?
So, I guess what I am saying is that I'm not 100% sure that the Rangers have what they want, if Staal and Girardi are non-starters, because I just don't see the Rangers moving McDonagh for him in a million years. - Pete V
If the oilers upped the ante I can see Sather considering it. Considering is not the same as doing it. It's not like your defense is going to implode without mcdonagh. It's much better with him of course but it'd still be decent without him. When are you guys going to have the chance to get a player with yaks potential? First overall talents are not accessible for your team for the most part. By the time they get to you guys they're looking for a big pay day. This kid could develop with your team. It's got some risk for sure but as an islanders fan I'd be pissed if Sather made this happen. |
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jimbro83
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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If the oilers upped the ante I can see Sather considering it. Considering is not the same as doing it. It's not like your defense is going to implode without mcdonagh. It's much better with him of course but it'd still be decent without him. When are you guys going to have the chance to get a player with yaks potential? First overall talents are not accessible for your team for the most part. By the time they get to you guys they're looking for a big pay day. This kid could develop with your team. It's got some risk for sure but as an islanders fan I'd be pissed if Sather made this happen. - Cptmjl
2 weeks ago Ryan McDonagh put Corey Perry into the bench twice on one shift.
2 nights ago, Ryan McDonagh made a toe drag move setting up the Rangers best goal of the year.
He is signed to one of the best contracts in the league after John Tavares.
Ryan McDonagh is going NOWHERE son
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There is definetely risk involved with acquiring him, there is no doubt about that. But, he did lead the Oilers in scoring last year (as a 19 year old rookie), and as you said, he has immense potential. As far as the team giving up on him, the Bruins gave up on Thornton, and even Steve Stamkos was on the verge of being traded to the Rangers, before upper management pulled the plug on that.
Personally, I don't see the Rangers giving up either Kreider or McDonagh in any deal with the Oilers. I think if a deal happens it will be your typical Slats trade with something like Del Zotto, Miller and a 1st going back the other way. I think it is unlikely that Edmonton would take that deal, but I don't think Slats would go much above that. So, I guess, I don't really see a deal happening, unless Edmonton's hand really gets forced by Yak wanting out of town. - Pete V
Exactly, this has always been the one area that Slats has my trust. The man knows which are the right trades and is good at forcing the other team's hand. So for the right price I do it for sure but so would every franchise in the league. I guess I would have to look it from the point of view that we will never be in a position to draft a player like this so if the right trade comes along then Slats pulls the trigger. I would imagine that another team will take more of a gamble than the Rangers might. |
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2 weeks ago Ryan McDonagh put Corey Perry into the bench twice on one shift.
2 nights ago, Ryan McDonagh made a toe drag move setting up the Rangers best goal of the year.
He is signed to one of the best contracts in the league after John Tavares.
Ryan McDonagh is going NOWHERE son - jimbro83
If Mac continues to grow offensively like he has thus far, he will be a Norris Trophy type defenseman...you don't trade guys like this especially considering the rangers have him on the cheap given the rate at which he is developing... |
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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2 weeks ago Ryan McDonagh put Corey Perry into the bench twice on one shift.
2 nights ago, Ryan McDonagh made a toe drag move setting up the Rangers best goal of the year.
He is signed to one of the best contracts in the league after John Tavares.
Ryan McDonagh is going NOWHERE son - jimbro83
Probably not. |
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DEFINITELY not. - Cptmjl
Fixed....
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mrhattrick27
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Location: NJ Joined: 02.01.2008
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There is definetely risk involved with acquiring him, there is no doubt about that. But, he did lead the Oilers in scoring last year (as a 19 year old rookie), and as you said, he has immense potential. As far as the team giving up on him, the Bruins gave up on Thornton, and even Steve Stamkos was on the verge of being traded to the Rangers, before upper management pulled the plug on that.
Personally, I don't see the Rangers giving up either Kreider or McDonagh in any deal with the Oilers. I think if a deal happens it will be your typical Slats trade with something like Del Zotto, Miller and a 1st going back the other way. I think it is unlikely that Edmonton would take that deal, but I don't think Slats would go much above that. So, I guess, I don't really see a deal happening, unless Edmonton's hand really gets forced by Yak wanting out of town. - Pete V
100% Agreed. Everyone keeps putting out that same deal. I bet Sather put that on the table and is just going to wait it out and see if they accept like he did with CBJ and Nash. |
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MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers |
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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If the oilers upped the ante I can see Sather considering it. Considering is not the same as doing it. It's not like your defense is going to implode without mcdonagh. It's much better with him of course but it'd still be decent without him. When are you guys going to have the chance to get a player with yaks potential? First overall talents are not accessible for your team for the most part. By the time they get to you guys they're looking for a big pay day. This kid could develop with your team. It's got some risk for sure but as an islanders fan I'd be pissed if Sather made this happen. - Cptmjl
see Daigle, Alexandre |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Probably not. - Cptmjl
to me, a proposal of Ryan McDonagh for Nail Yakupov makes me feel about the same as if someone said you should trade John Tavares to Columbus for Ryan Murray.
"Need that franchise defenseman! you'll never get him! perfect opportunity!"
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Cptmjl
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see Daigle, Alexandre - MeltingPlastic
There's always that chance. that's why i said it'd be high risk. I don't see that though. He led the team in scoring his first pro season. You're risking more on his attitude then his scoring prowess. |
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Cptmjl
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to me, a proposal of Ryan McDonagh for Nail Yakupov makes me feel about the same as if someone said you should trade John Tavares to Columbus for Ryan Murray.
"Need that franchise defenseman! you'll never get him! perfect opportunity!" - jimbro83
I hear you but if we had a couple other guys that even compared to Tavares it'd be more plausible. You guys have some defensive depth. I'm not saying I'd endorse it if I were a Rangers fan but it is plausible. Especially if the Oilers were to up the ante. |
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jimbro83
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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I hear you but if we had a couple other guys that even compared to Tavares it'd be more plausible. You guys have some defensive depth. I'm not saying I'd endorse it if I were a Rangers fan but it is plausible. Especially if the Oilers were to up the ante. - Cptmjl
we actually don't have any guys that compare to McDonagh, I just don't think people realize how good he is yet |
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For all those proposing Ryan McDonagh for Nail YTakupov, please stop. I have covered this several times in my blogs, and as evidenced by the tidal wave of comments here, that would be a ridiculous move for the Rangers. Most of us believe that Yakupov can be a star, with the word CAN the operative one, because he isn't one now while McDonagh took a step up last year and is clearly a Norris Trophy candidate now. Getting Yakupov liukely would help the offense but at a major hit to the blue line. No way I would the Blueshirts to even sniff let alone make a trade like that. |
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