Not exactly. He can't carry the puck into the zone, makes bad reads defensively and the only year people pay attention to his stats is when he had 11PP points, but still didn't crack 50. Every other year he's put up good third liner production.

You don't trade a first line winger for a good third liner.
- DTF69

Is a surprisingly fast and efficient skater, although not beautiful.
Goes to the net and Likes to engage physically. He also has a reasonable shot.

You add coburn with simmonds and it's a package that can help the oilers un a few different areas. We'd have to consider it for yaks

I the Oilers want some muscle that can play then just bend over and let the Jets have anyone who makes less than 6 million dollars for Kane.

That dude is a trade request waiting to happen in Winnipeg.
- DTF69

The Jets should just burn.





To the ground.



Of mediocrity.

I promise you, you do not have enough mods on HockeyBuzz to cover the Flyers thread should that happen

- AllInForFlyers

Click, ban,click, ban, click, ban

That would still be a bad trade for Eberle. Yakupov I could see them trading, who knows how good he turns out to be(could be a leading scorer on a team for years, or a streaky 25-30 goal scorer, 60 point type player), clearly he has a ton of talent and will be a top 6 forward though.

I'd rather keep the young guns, I'm just not as high on Simmonds and Coburn as many seem to be.


I remember the Subban rumours at the draft, I wonder if the Oilers really could have traded Yakupov for Subban. Would have been a fantastic deal.
- Nucker101

Yeah...I am not suggesting they shld trade Ebs for anything. I still rank him the best among their kids. Yak just doesn't seem to want to be there...killing his value some, but it will only gwt worse. Selling 70 c on the dollar isn't terrible if it shores up immediate needs and instills a compete level. Plus, they wont have to overpay to re sign him

Figured they'd probably try to go after Larsson and Clowe even though he's grossly overpriced.
- nanook82

They wouldn't take Clowe with his health. I could see Ryder and Larsson.

I the Oilers want some muscle that can play then just bend over and let the Jets have anyone who makes less than 6 million dollars for Kane.

That dude is a trade request waiting to happen in Winnipeg.
- DTF69

Crazy thought: how about they get a legit top 4 defensmen?

at the end of the day, the rangers are doing well, winning games, and scoring goals without rick nash. so we're not in a rush or pressured to make any move. with that in mind, and knowing sather's trading expertise, i expect any move for yakupov to be a favorable one for the rangers.
- rangerdanger94

Unfortunately for Nah, he is close to being the next Lindros or Savard. The #1pick is important, esp if they miss the playoffs and have to spend big to resign Hank[url]

Is a surprisingly fast and efficient skater, although not beautiful.
Goes to the net and Likes to engage physically. He also has a reasonable shot.

You add coburn with simmonds and it's a package that can help the oilers un a few different areas. We'd have to consider it for yaks
- hugefemale dog77

For a team like Edmonton, Simmonds doesn't have to score 30 to help you win. That dude's 100 PIMs are the right kind -- fights when RNH would get crosschecked or Taylor Hall takes a cheap one.

And make no mistake: That dude is a tremendous fighter. Just sayin'

Is a surprisingly fast and efficient skater, although not beautiful.
Goes to the net and Likes to engage physically. He also has a reasonable shot.

You add coburn with simmonds and it's a package that can help the oilers un a few different areas. We'd have to consider it for yaks
- hugefemale dog77

Hmmm, you make a good point too!

Simmonds and Coburn slot very very nicely into our lineup. In the modern NHL, a good 2/3 winger and a good top 4 dman may equal a young 1st line winger in the making...

not straight up, but for a package deal i think it could benefit the oilers. simmonds is a good 2nd line winger that scored 28 goals 2 seasons ago and i believe he was on pace for 30 last season, but i'm not 100% sure.

the oilers have enough guys that theoretically should score 40+ goals or 90+ points a season, even without yakupov. what they're missing is the gritty players that can chip in with 15-20 goals a year throughout the rest of their lineup. the guys that add heart, establish the forecheck, stand up for teammates, spark their teammates when the team is down, and make their team hard to play against.
- rangerdanger94

It'd cost a lot from Philly. A lot. But then again, thats what Philly does.

It just make no sense. I can't think of an offer that would make any sense.

You don't trade a 19yr old first overall pick that has 18 goals in not even 70 games played for someone that can forecheck.

If the Oilers didn't have a piss poor drafting record outside the first overalls for the last few years they'd have their own Galiardi's and Simmonds's and whatnot.

The Jets should just burn.





To the ground.



Of mediocrity.
- AdamFrench

Noel will go before Kane if they're smart. Chevy can't afford to be Tambellini 2.0.

Would anybody else rather have Smid stay and Ference go t cal

Is a surprisingly fast and efficient skater, although not beautiful.
Goes to the net and Likes to engage physically. He also has a reasonable shot.

You add coburn with simmonds and it's a package that can help the oilers un a few different areas. We'd have to consider it for yaks
- hugefemale dog77

what made the rangers so successful during our ECF run was the depth and grit the team had. our only superstar on offense was gaborik, and arguably brad richards. but we had guys like callahan, dubinsky, anisimov, prust, and fedetenko throughout the rest of the lineup that made us hard to play against, forechecked extremely well, and scored timely goals.

that summer, we traded dubinsky and anisimov for rick nash and lost prust, fedetenko, mitchell, and more to free agency and now with a super stacked top 6 including gaborik, nash, and richards...we were extremely mediocre and easy to play against. we replaced the depth guys with plugs like halpern and powe and asham and pyatt.

then, we trade gaborik for depth and grit and retool our depth with signings like pouliot and all of a sudden, taking out the first 8 games of this season where we were adjusting to the new coach, we're playing really well again.

Click, ban,click, ban, click, ban
- Yeti1181

You should have said click, click, ban... Like a shotgun.

Click, ban,click, ban, click, ban
- Yeti1181

Ha! Yep, that sounds about right.

Noel will go before Kane if they're smart. Chevy can't afford to be Tambellini 2.0.
- Nucker101

Worst coach in the league imo.

Is a surprisingly fast and efficient skater, although not beautiful.
Goes to the net and Likes to engage physically. He also has a reasonable shot.

You add coburn with simmonds and it's a package that can help the oilers un a few different areas. We'd have to consider it for yaks
- hugefemale dog77

That's still a tough one to digest. And it makes no sense on Philly's end.

Then again, that makes it more likely.

I the Oilers want some muscle that can play then just bend over and let the Jets have anyone who makes less than 6 million dollars for Kane.

That dude is a trade request waiting to happen in Winnipeg.
- DTF69

Head cass the little I can garner.Tessier et all would know more

It'd cost a lot from Philly. A lot. But then again, thats what Philly does.

It just make no sense. I can't think of an offer that would make any sense.

You don't trade a 19yr old first overall pick that has 18 goals in not even 70 games played for someone that can forecheck.

If the Oilers didn't have a piss poor drafting record outside the first overalls for the last few years they'd have their own Galiardi's and Simmonds's and whatnot.
- DTF69

With any luck in 2/3 years time Pitlick and Khaira will be our Galliardi and Simmonds...

Noel will go before Kane if they're smart. Chevy can't afford to be Tambellini 2.0.
- Nucker101

I think Kane will ask out this off season regardless of who the coach is.

That's still a tough one to digest. And it makes no sense on Philly's end.

Then again, that makes it more likely.
- DTF69

I'm guessing a NYR- OIL deal is imminent

It'd cost a lot from Philly. A lot. But then again, thats what Philly does.

It just make no sense. I can't think of an offer that would make any sense.

You don't trade a 19yr old first overall pick that has 18 goals in not even 70 games played for someone that can forecheck.

If the Oilers didn't have a piss poor drafting record outside the first overalls for the last few years they'd have their own Galiardi's and Simmonds's and whatnot.
- DTF69

you're understating simmonds when you label him as just a guy that can forecheck.

he's mean, he's big, he's strong. he'll drive to the net. he'll lay someone on the other team the fck out. he'll most likely net you 30 goals consistently. he's a great player and i can't imagine why any fan wouldn't want him on their team.

if you don't want to deal yakupov for him, i understand. but i don't see any reason why you wouldn't want simmonds on your team. especially with what the current makeup of the oilers is.

Worst coach in the league imo.
- AdamFrench

Burmistrov would disagree

A little scouting report of my own on Horak, if you'll oblige me:

Pros:
- Fluid skater with great acceleration and smooth crossovers
- Good one-on-one skills; fairly creative, but more of a playmaker
- Seems to have developed a reasonable defensive conscience over the past season or two

Cons:
- Can kinda be a puck-hog at times
- Gets out-muscled easily; lacks the drive to engage consistently
- Lost some of his offensive swagger after joining the pro ranks