Hey I agree with you, Eberle is a fantastic player, but changes need to be made for future success. When there's a deal to be made, such as the Flyers struggles right now and being willing to make a deal, you've gotta strike while the irons hot. Fans are getting sick and tired of losing in Edmonton.

I'm a former Oilers season ticket holder, used to live in Sherwood Park when I worked for Shell in Fort Sask. I'm also a huge Flyer fan from back in the day (I'm 45 yrs old), so I have some interest in all of this.
- LeftCoaster

I guess we will see what happens... If Eberle goes to make the team better great... Time will tell...

The turnovers are from a lack of having a veteran forward to teach these kids that what they did in Juniors/ AHL doesn't work in he NHL. I know we have vets but most teams have vets better than Smitty, Hemsky, Horcoff.

Hall has passion for the game and fire in his belly. Last night during the interview during the intermission he basically said that he needs to go out and get a goal. and what did he do? Buried one past Bishop to put the oilers within 1.
- nagasadow

which was made possible by a pass from Eberle...

I guess we will see what happens... If Eberle goes to make the team better great... Time will tell...
- saskoil21

Times are certainly desperate when the once untouchable are now part of daily trade rumors.... and we would endorse the trade

Jonathan Willis ‏@JonathanWillis 1h
I wouldn't put much stock in Eberle to Philly, but if there's traction I see two options: Giroux or a Simmonds/Couturier package.
- LeftCoaster

LOL, ok...


I don't know why people actually think there is a chance of G being moved one-for-one for Eberle? LMFAO.

which was made possible by a pass from Eberle...
- saskoil21

It's hard to see with blinders on.

which was made possible by a pass from Eberle...
- saskoil21

YUUUUUPPPPPP

Everyone on this teams pay to the points and +/- ratio is not good, can't single out one player!!
- BernieKorch

That is my point to pick L. Schenn and bench him out of everyone on the starting six is not the write move.

he was a top five forward for one year ... the last two, not even close.

Have to include Hall and Schultz? What a joke. Giroux's real value as it stands now is a second round pick. He hasn't been playing well for the last year.
- Oneonta Penguin

Tough to say that any active player who's put up 90 points in a season has the real value of a 2nd round pick

It bears repeating:

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
XXXX-Nuge-Ebs
Perron-Gordon-XXXX
Smyth-Acton-Jones

Fill with the best defensive/agitating wingers our 2nds, 3rds, 4ths, and prospects not named Nurse can buy. Trade Hemsky for whatever we can get.

I really don't think we need another bona fide top 6 piece, certainly not a bona fide top 6 powerforward, and certainly not at the cost of Eberle +
- Morris

A slight reworking and expansion, if you will:

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
XXXX-Nuge-Ebs
Perron-Gordon-XXXX
XXXX-XXXX-Jones

XXXX- Petry
XXXX- Schultz
Ference- Larsen (assuming he can keep it up)

XXXX
Bachman? I don't (frank)ing know...

For the future, those are the lines with the possible exception of Gagner and the possible inclusion of Arcobello (I know, I know). For me, that means that there are at least 5 important spots that need filling within the next year.

Eberle makes players around him better... He is our best winger- he has the smarts and skill as well as stats to prove it... Last year he was near the top in scoring and he played most season with an injured hand FFS... He does not have the speed of Hall nor the flash of 1st overall but until proven otherwise he is our best player...
- saskoil21

hall's already proven you wrong. by top ten in scoring and being our best player.
and what are you talking about? hall has outscored him in 2 of their 3 years playing and has a better career ppg.


eberle isn't our second best player either.
he's a fantastic talent and I love him, but he's a scorer. he's the type of piece u add to the nuge's and halls when building a team.

you repeating "eberle is our best player" over and over doesn't make it so.

I think your missing an skill or intangible that hall and the nuge have that makes them almost indispensable in any realistic trade.
ill bet you anything ebs or yaks go before nuge or hall.

dble post but still relevant...

YES, in years when the Oilers have had any measure of success it has been on the back of a goalie who could carry the team and steal a few wins. Remember Cujo, and Tommy Salo years? The Oilers were not that good but these elite 'tenders allowed them to compete every night and that inspires confidence in the rest of the club. The Oilers have not had a goalie like that since Roli and go figure, he took them to the cup final.

Overpay by trade if you manna make a real turnaround this year before losing anymore of the kids to complacency or overpay in the summer and hope for the best, either way, reality says we will have to overpay. Accept it and make it happen.
- gzatron

Yeah, and it's such a tough proposition to overpay for a goaltender in this respect but I guess worth the risk. You can sit on your hands and wait til the off season and beyond or get a good goalie only to have him go in the toilette.

Oh to have Ben Bishop. Well, Mac-T tried and missed on some of them.

Not to quibble over Salo but that motherfukker got bad. I remember having as much confidence in him as Dubnyk in a tight game (perhaps that was later in his career). Roli and Cujo. Special stuff.

LOL, ok...


I don't know why people actually think there is a chance of G being moved one-for-one for Eberle? LMFAO.
- Flyers_V88

Don't shoot the messenger!!

It bears repeating:

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
XXXX-Nuge-Ebs
Perron-Gordon-XXXX
Smyth-Acton-Jones

Fill with the best defensive/agitating wingers our 2nds, 3rds, 4ths, and prospects not named Nurse can buy. Trade Hemsky for whatever we can get.

I really don't think we need another bona fide top 6 piece, certainly not a bona fide top 6 powerforward, and certainly not at the cost of Eberle +
- Morris

Kinda what I am saying. Brayden schenn would fit nicely but not at that cost.

Hall gagner yak
Joensuu nuge ebs
Perron Gordon schenn
Smyth acton jones

That third line could very well be the most important line, that line on paper looks capable of being a very strong counter to teams best lines. After that nuge is starting to improve very much without the puck. Hall gagner and yak have potential of being an all star line.

Joensuu adds the grit to make room for Eberle and nuge while still having decent skill. He could almost be our Bryan bickel.

If we can make those moves while keeping arco he could fit as a 3rd 4th line split with Gordon

That fourth line is bad but what can you do

A slight reworking and expansion, if you will:

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
XXXX-Nuge-Ebs
Perron-Gordon-XXXX
XXXX-XXXX-Jones

XXXX- Petry
XXXX- Schultz
Ference- Larsen (assuming he can keep it up)

XXXX
Bachman? I don't (frank)ing know...

For the future, those are the lines with the possible exception of Gagner and the possible inclusion of Arcobello (I know, I know). For me, that means that there are at least 5 important spots that need filling within the next year.
- MaximumBone

Yeah good point on the fourth line.

Kinda what I am saying. Brayden schenn would fit nicely but not at that cost.

Hall gagner yak
Joensuu nuge ebs
Perron Gordon schenn
Smyth acton jones

That third line could very well be the most important line, that line on paper looks capable of being a very strong counter to teams best lines. After that nuge is starting to improve very much without the puck. Hall gagner and yak have potential of being an all star line.

Joensuu adds the grit to make room for Eberle and nuge while still having decent skill. He could almost be our Bryan bickel.

If we can make those moves while keeping arco he could fit as a 3rd 4th line split with Gordon

That fourth line is bad but what can you do
- CrustyRooster

Having enough depth and spread where Perron is on your third line. That is a problem for the opposition.

To the future!

No way Eberle or Giroux are involved in any trade!!

Times are certainly desperate when the once untouchable are now part of daily trade rumors.... and we would endorse the trade
- gzatron

Could help if this team would win games, no one is untouchable at this point..
Oilers management won't do a thing they dont have to balls for a big trade.

The problem is the Oilers don't have an Eberle that's actually worth a Giroux... so I think it might be that one of the extra Flyers D might be heading to Edmonton + some other pieces for an Eberle... but only if we want to be realistic.

Having enough depth and spread where Perron is on your third line. That is a problem for the opposition.

To the future!
- Salvo

If we can roll three lines with that much talent and having the players who aren't afraid to get dirty are kinda what we need. If we had everyone or half the guys playing like Perron itd throw people off their game.

Hall gagner and yak can provide the grit to at least stand up for themselves so I'll give them a pass.

Nuge and Eberle creed the bigger presence who as bad as this sounds fights their battles for them. Joensuu did take a run at buff who was taking liberties with ebs so thats a positive sign

Perron right now is our equivalent to brad Marchand. He is our pest not as good as marchand in that regard but who is? brad is faster too, but Perron arguably has the skill advantage.

We have the right pieces, but it'd be nice to see the actual healthy line up play and then see how bad we are before we sell the farm imo

It bears repeating:

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
XXXX-Nuge-Ebs
Perron-Gordon-XXXX
Smyth-Acton-Jones

Fill with the best defensive/agitating wingers our 2nds, 3rds, 4ths, and prospects not named Nurse can buy. Trade Hemsky for whatever we can get.

I really don't think we need another bona fide top 6 piece, certainly not a bona fide top 6 powerforward, and certainly not at the cost of Eberle +
- Morris

Sorry to reply again, but upon looking at the FA list for this offseason, a few players come to mind.

Hall- Gagner- Yakupov
Kulemin/Michalek- Nuge- Eberle
Perron- Gordon- Moss/Ott
Vitale- Boyle/Goc- Jones

Orpik/Girardi- Schultz
Nurse- Petry
Ference- Larsen

Hiller/Halak
Greiss

(frank) I hate it when I dream

Sure the Oilers could turn Eberle into Giroux. They just have to include Hall and Schultz.
Given Giroux's awful year, when he's on (which he hasn't been), he's a point-per-game player and one of the top-5 forwards in the league. The problem is, for the past 30 games or so, he hasn't been on. That said, the Flyers would be foolish to make a 1-for-1 trade, or even Eberle+random assets trade, and I'm a big Eberle fan.
- jmatchett383

Eberle, Hall and J-Schultz for Giroux? hahah now that's funny.

Sorry to reply again, but upon looking at the FA list for this offseason, a few players come to mind.

Hall- Gagner- Yakupov
Kulemin/Michalek- Nuge- Eberle
Perron- Gordon- Moss/Ott
Vitale- Boyle/Goc- Jones

Orpik/Girardi- Schultz
Nurse- Petry
Ference- Larsen

Hiller
Greiss

(frank) I hate it when I dream
- MaximumBone

Or worse being delusional.

Eberle, Hall and J-Schultz for Giroux? hahah now that's (frank)ing retarded.
- SpoiledByOil

Fixed

The problem is the Oilers don't have an Eberle that's actually worth a Giroux... so I think it might be that one of the extra Flyers D might be heading to Edmonton + some other pieces for an Eberle... but only if we want to be realistic.
- flyler

so u just went the opposite homer it seems.
eberle is not worth Giroux straight up.
but ur crazy if u think one of and 'extra' d and a throw in for ebs is fair value.

one or more of these names will be involved in any deal for ebs. Simmonds, Coburn, couturier, b schenn. maybe two of them with a salary add from edm.
none of them are worth ebs straight up

Or worse being delusional.
- ChetManly