It bears repeating:

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
XXXX-Nuge-Ebs
Perron-Gordon-XXXX
Smyth-Acton-Jones

Fill with the best defensive/agitating wingers our 2nds, 3rds, 4ths, and prospects not named Nurse can buy. Trade Hemsky for whatever we can get.

I really don't think we need another bona fide top 6 piece, certainly not a bona fide top 6 powerforward, and certainly not at the cost of Eberle +

You'll get no argument from me! Hall is our best player by a good deal and- along with Nurse- is our only "untouchable" asset.
- MaximumBone

There is more to hockey than speed and turnovers...

Yeah, I don't full out BLAME Dubnyk. Yes, the defense is crap.

But as a team, you need to feel that when you make a mistake he'll be their for you.

I missed last night's game and to wake up and see the Garner blog was just deflating.

I feel bad for Dubs but when you're goalie is unfortunately as bad and/or psychologically fragile as the defense? That's bad starting pitching and you can't win.

This sucks.
- Salvo

I don't know how to feel.

You could, but the rumour says Eberle. Who's more valuable on the wing, Hall or Eberle. I say Hall and RNH make a perfect pair. Eberle will bring the biggest return if the Oilers want to keep Hall.
- LeftCoaster

True, sorry I just assumed that the rumour would amount to nothing

I agree with you. Hall before Eberle in my books. That being said, I'd rather see minor moves made to improve the culture, toughness, and defensive acumen of the team before courting a 60 point power forward

Find me a defenseman not named Coburn who has had a good season.
Also, stats aside, just watching him, he makes smart decisions with the puck. The team hired him as a puck mover, and he's been that. The forwards just can't get much done with it.
- jmatchett383

Did you watch the game the other night in overtime? Do you think that was a good decision?

Giroux for Omark, 2nd pick and a prospect
- nagasadow

H-h-h-hold on. WHAT?

There is more to hockey than speed and turnovers...
- saskoil21

If Hall is just speed and turnovers, than Eberle is no speed and turnovers...

We arent making the playoffs this year anyway... this season is done... goaltending helped fast forward that result... Trading your core assets as a knee jerk is not right either... unless its for a ransome... I guess I dont know what is proposed... I just know what Eberle brings to this team...
- saskoil21

Hey I agree with you, Eberle is a fantastic player, but changes need to be made for future success. When there's a deal to be made, such as the Flyers struggles right now and being willing to make a deal, you've gotta strike while the irons hot. Fans are getting sick and tired of losing in Edmonton.

I'm a former Oilers season ticket holder, used to live in Sherwood Park when I worked for Shell in Fort Sask. I'm also a huge Flyer fan from back in the day (I'm 45 yrs old), so I have some interest in all of this.

There is more to hockey than speed and turnovers...
- saskoil21

There's also more than dangles and not shooting...

H-h-h-hold on. WHAT?
- MaximumBone

let's give him the opportunity to play it off as a joke.

Yeah, I don't full out BLAME Dubnyk. Yes, the defense is crap.

But as a team, you need to feel that when you make a mistake he'll be their for you.

I missed last night's game and to wake up and see the Garner blog was just deflating.

I feel bad for Dubs but when you're goalie is unfortunately as bad and/or psychologically fragile as the defense? That's bad starting pitching and you can't win.

This sucks.
- Salvo

dble post but still relevant...

YES, in years when the Oilers have had any measure of success it has been on the back of a goalie who could carry the team and steal a few wins. Remember Cujo, and Tommy Salo years? The Oilers were not that good but these elite 'tenders allowed them to compete every night and that inspires confidence in the rest of the club. The Oilers have not had a goalie like that since Roli and go figure, he took them to the cup final.

Overpay by trade if you manna make a real turnaround this year before losing anymore of the kids to complacency or overpay in the summer and hope for the best, either way, reality says we will have to overpay. Accept it and make it happen.

There's also more than dangles and not shooting...
- MaximumBone

Alice!

There is more to hockey than speed and turnovers...
- saskoil21

The turnovers are from a lack of having a veteran forward to teach these kids that what they did in Juniors/ AHL doesn't work in he NHL. I know we have vets but most teams have vets better than Smitty, Hemsky, Horcoff.

Hall has passion for the game and fire in his belly. Last night during the interview during the intermission he basically said that he needs to go out and get a goal. and what did he do? Buried one past Bishop to put the oilers within 1.

let's give him the opportunity to play it off as a joke.
- Morris

Hence why I haven't labelled him a complete retard yet

0 goals 4 assist and a -9 not much for a 5mil dollar man
- mace14

Everyone on this teams pay to the points and +/- ratio is not good, can't single out one player!!

Ryan Whitney on waivers



Poor guy, went from being a 1-2 D man to a leper

H-h-h-hold on. WHAT?
- MaximumBone

That's basically what some morons are suggesting on other sites on the great internet

Ryan Whitney on waivers



Poor guy, went from being a 1-2 D man to a leper
- BigDre

Completely appropriate use of the term

Jonathan Willis ‏@JonathanWillis 1h
I wouldn't put much stock in Eberle to Philly, but if there's traction I see two options: Giroux or a Simmonds/Couturier package.

Ryan Whitney on waivers



Poor guy, went from being a 1-2 D man to a leper
- BigDre

His injury stalled our rebuild. If he had maintained his health and level of play he once had, he could have lead this functional dcore.

A two-way guy like Whitney (was fleetingly) is exactly what this team needs.

That's basically what some morons are suggesting on other sites on the great internet
- nagasadow

Oh, thank God! That was pushing beyond HallFan territory But seriously? Someone out there actually thinks that trade would work?

Sure the Oilers could turn Eberle into Giroux. They just have to include Hall and Schultz.
Given Giroux's awful year, when he's on (which he hasn't been), he's a point-per-game player and one of the top-5 forwards in the league. The problem is, for the past 30 games or so, he hasn't been on. That said, the Flyers would be foolish to make a 1-for-1 trade, or even Eberle+random assets trade, and I'm a big Eberle fan.
- jmatchett383

he was a top five forward for one year ... the last two, not even close.

Have to include Hall and Schultz? What a joke. Giroux's real value as it stands now is a second round pick. He hasn't been playing well for the last year.

It bears repeating:

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
XXXX-Nuge-Ebs
Perron-Gordon-XXXX
Smyth-Acton-Jones

Fill with the best defensive/agitating wingers our 2nds, 3rds, 4ths, and prospects not named Nurse can buy. Trade Hemsky for whatever we can get.

I really don't think we need another bona fide top 6 piece, certainly not a bona fide top 6 powerforward, and certainly not at the cost of Eberle +
- Morris

Yeah I love those lines and the idea.

So it seems we would need to find a team(s) that are completely out of it and want to give up those players for prospects.

Seems pipe.

Oh, thank God! That was pushing beyond HallFan territory But seriously? Someone out there actually thinks that trade would work?
- MaximumBone

I forgot where I read that but yeah some neckbeard out there thinks that could work.

I could see it maybe working if you included the 1st and 2nd but even then lol

I want Brayden schenn on my team, I think he fits perfectly in the mix. If the oil could get him for marincin a 2nd and Hemsky (half salary/cap) I'd do it. I'm sure most flyers fans don't like that trade though. I'm bad at the whole Fake trade thing

I think Brayden Schenn would add so much to this hockey club and if we could get him without giving up one of the kids (a deal would be schenn plus if that be the case) he plays with grit likes to hit is responsible defensively and has a great shot. He could be a great asset to our top nine.

After that the oilers need a better defense. Can they get it from Philly? I'm not so sure, but one thing I think is certain is that trading for an already proven top 2 defenseman won't make us that much better if at all considering what we have to give up.

They have to trade for a guy who is an upgrade but has room to grow into the anchor we need. It would be a risk though