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ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Nov 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
What about

B. Schenn, L. Schenn, and Simmonds for Eberle and Gagner

Gagner becomes expendable as B Schenn gives you are bigger body and equally talented second line C. L. Schenn comes as the package deal with his brother and is in the doghouse right now, but could bounce back under a D first system like Eakins. Simmonds is a perfect fit on the top 6 in Edmonton adding grit and net drive.

I think that's a fairly equal trade. A pick or prospect might need to be included.

- ILoveLamp


Lines would like nice too

Hall - Nuge - Yaks
Perron - B. Schenn - Simmonds
Smyth - Arcobello - Hemsky
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
What about

B. Schenn, L. Schenn, and Simmonds for Eberle and Gagner

Gagner becomes expendable as B Schenn gives you are bigger body and equally talented second line C. L. Schenn comes as the package deal with his brother and is in the doghouse right now, but could bounce back under a D first system like Eakins. Simmonds is a perfect fit on the top 6 in Edmonton adding grit and net drive.

I think that's a fairly equal trade. A pick or prospect might need to be included.

- ILoveLamp

no interest in another struggling, slowish defensive player like l schenn. we have a couple of those already.

change l schenn to Coburn and we'll add another piece and ur talking.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:13 PM ET
6'1ish 260
- Yeti1181

Oh... i see. Well your not that much bigger than me. Ya got a good 30-40 pounds on me but the pic makes you look much taller for some reason.
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Nov 8 @ 4:14 PM ET
I like what you're thinking, but I don't think the Flyers would want to deal that much size and only get two players under 6'0'' back... Just my opinion. Otherwise, the value is quite good for both teams.
- Flyers_V88


Maybe not, but your C position is pretty locked up with Giroux and Lecavalier in the mix. Couts can still be salvaged if developed, making you weak on the wings.
Eberle might be the top player in this trade, and having him play with Giroux or Lecavalier could be electric. Gagner is more cap going back and can play a decent two way game as a third line centre, moving Couts up to play wing.

Your top 6 can essentially be
Hartnell - Giroux - Eberle
Couts - Lecavalier - Voracek
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:16 PM ET
You realize they would have to beat a team in the East too right?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

All their wins this season are against Eastern teams. The Oilers team would be much better suited to playing Eastern style hockey which typically caters more towards excitement and offense (Philly, Pittsburgh, Washington, Toronto, Ottawa, Florida [HA!], Detroit, etc) more than the defensively-focused, bigger, and grittier styled Western Conference (St Louis, LA, Nashville, Anaheim, and to a lesser extent Vancouver, San Jose, and Winnipeg).
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:16 PM ET
What about

B. Schenn, L. Schenn, and Simmonds for Eberle and Gagner

Gagner becomes expendable as B Schenn gives you are bigger body and equally talented second line C. L. Schenn comes as the package deal with his brother and is in the doghouse right now, but could bounce back under a D first system like Eakins. Simmonds is a perfect fit on the top 6 in Edmonton adding grit and net drive.

I think that's a fairly equal trade. A pick or prospect might need to be included.

- ILoveLamp

Besides Gagner's NTC, I still think I'd rather add a little more to get Coburn as opposed to "settling" for Schenn. Frankly, the value isn't all that bad in my opinion, but others will see it differently.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:17 PM ET
Getting a English bulldog next. Bernese are awesome dogs.
- Yeti1181

Rottweilers always have been and always will be my fav. I also want a chow chow.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Nov 8 @ 4:18 PM ET
By all means, please take both of the Schenns for Eberle
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:18 PM ET
Yup. Funny how EVERYONE seems to think the Flyers D has been the issue. It hasn't been, at all. It's their inability score.
- Flyers_V88

Right is that why Luke Schenn has been a healthy scratch? Because he's so good?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:18 PM ET
Lines would like nice too

Hall - Nuge - Yaks
Perron - B. Schenn - Simmonds
Smyth - Arcobello - Hemsky

- ILoveLamp



That looks aweful!
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:19 PM ET


Only got to about page 5 and cant take it anymore!

Yeti! I'm trying not to snap on these foolish posts!

I see a ban coming if I keep reading! I'm out!

- Iggysbff

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
Lines would like nice too

Hall - Nuge - Yaks
Perron - B. Schenn - Simmonds
Smyth - Arcobello - Hemsky

- ILoveLamp

Horray! More inconsistent offensive producers that can't win faceoffs If that trade were to happen, I think the lines would go more like:

Hall- Arco- Simmonds
Schenn- Nuge- Yak
Perron- Gordon- Hemsky

But it's really not important as Eakins would changes the lines every damn period.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
All their wins this season are against Eastern teams. The Oilers team would be much better suited to playing Eastern style hockey which typically caters more towards excitement and offense (Philly, Pittsburgh, Washington, Toronto, Ottawa, Florida
- MaximumBone[HA!], Detroit, etc) more than the defensively-focused, bigger, and grittier styled Western Conference (St Louis, LA, Nashville, Anaheim, and to a lesser extent Vancouver, San Jose, and Winnipeg).

Theres a mix in both conferences, but yea the west tends to be a little more defense first. Has Edmonton beat and good East teams yet? I haven't watched all their games.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:21 PM ET
Theres a mix in both conferences, but yea the west tends to be a little more defense first. Has Edmonton beat and good East teams yet? I haven't watched all their games.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Montreal? They outplayed Tampa, but didn't get the win in the end. Besides that, no. Their wins are against Florida, Ottawa, Montreal, and the Islanders.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:21 PM ET


Only got to about page 5 and cant take it anymore!

Yeti! I'm trying not to snap on these foolish posts!

I see a ban coming if I keep reading! I'm out!

- Iggysbff


I was waiting for your humble response.
Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.29.2013

Nov 8 @ 4:22 PM ET
What successful team would want to disrupt their chemistry by adding overpaid underachiever right now? And Edmonton would've the last place Giroux would want to get traded to.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:22 PM ET
Theres a bunch of idiot leafs fans saying Ebs is the Oils best player.. When i say Hall is i get "Do you even watch hockey bro"?? Yes bro i do. I really hope you guys get something going soon. It sucks living in Alberta and not even being interested in Oilers games.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Most Eastern fans see nothing but highlights and make their judgement based on that. ANYONE with any hockey sense can watch a dozen Oilers games and clearly see who our best and most important player is. Nuge may become that one day but is not right now. And Eberle is no where close to Hall....not even close.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
Theres a mix in both conferences, but yea the west tends to be a little more defense first. Has Edmonton beat and good East teams yet? I haven't watched all their games.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

we'd struggle in either conference, but we just get killed against the la's and san joses etc.

as far as decent teams go, we beat the habs and the sens.
shoulda beat Toronto in that first game too...
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
What successful team would want to disrupt their chemistry by adding overpaid underachiever right now? And Edmonton would've the last place Giroux would want to get traded to.
- Itsjustarash

Successful team? Philly is one of only two teams with a worse record than the Oilers right now. With their history, it's right about "Shake-up Time".
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Nov 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
I'm kinda not sold on Simmonds. I think his hockey playing abilities aren't much above grinder, and that the physicality he brings overshadows that. I don't think you trade a first liner for an average player with physicality, even if we need some of it and if we're getting another piece back.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
Most Eastern fans see nothing but highlights and make their judgement based on that. ANYONE with any hockey sense can watch a dozen Oilers games and clearly see who our best and most important player is. Nuge may become that one day but is not right now. And Eberle is no where close to Hall....not even close.
- Iggysbff


I thought you checked out.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 8 @ 4:25 PM ET
Most Eastern fans see nothing but highlights and make their judgement based on that. ANYONE with any hockey sense can watch a dozen Oilers games and clearly see who our best and most important player is. Nuge may become that one day but is not right now. And Eberle is no where close to Hall....not even close.
- Iggysbff

To be fair, though, it's hard to watch Western games when you live out East.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 8 @ 4:25 PM ET
Most Eastern fans see nothing but highlights and make their judgement based on that. ANYONE with any hockey sense can watch a dozen Oilers games and clearly see who our best and most important player is. Nuge may become that one day but is not right now. And Eberle is no where close to Hall....not even close.
- Iggysbff

ive noticed this.

it's a combination of highlight reels, world juniors and the hall hate.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 8 @ 4:26 PM ET
Montreal? They outplayed Tampa, but didn't get the win in the end. Besides that, no. Their wins are against Florida, Ottawa, Montreal, and the Islanders.
- MaximumBone

devils. the isles beat us
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 8 @ 4:27 PM ET
What successful team would want to disrupt their chemistry by adding overpaid underachiever right now? And Edmonton would've the last place Giroux would want to get traded to.
- Itsjustarash

how do you know this?

u live in burns lake...glass house bro
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