We needed this after game 5. Hindsight and all but
- Salvo

Bryz is still available

Bryz is still available
- nagasadow

Didn't he get released from an ECHL team....

Bryz is still available
- nagasadow

Might as well.

I am totally mystified by any proposal involving a trade of forwards between Edmonton and Philadephia. Both these teams needs defensive help. In addition, Edmonton needs a goaltender.

Even if Giroux asked for a trade and the Flyers were trying to comply why would they not be trying to acquire a stud D man. If Edmonton is going to deal an Eberle why would they not be trying to get an Anderson or Lehner from Ottawa.

Edmonton and Philadelphia exchanging top forwards still leaves them vulnerable in exactly the same way.

I am totally mystified by any proposal involving a trade of forwards between Edmonton and Philadephia. Both these teams needs defensive help. In addition, Edmonton needs a goaltender.

Even if Giroux asked for a trade and the Flyers were trying to comply why would they not be trying to acquire a stud D man. If Edmonton is going to deal an Eberle why would they not be trying to get an Anderson or Lehner from Ottawa.

Edmonton and Philadelphia exchanging top forwards still leaves them vulnerable in exactly the same way.
- spatso

im not so sure. at least I don't think it's quite as cut and dry as u suggest

the oilers def need a better top pairing guy and a netminder that can give them a chance to win.
but they also need some meat and grit in the skill positions up front as well as a quality bottom 6'er.

you aint gonna fix every hole at once, so you start with one or two.

not to mention goalie worth is tough to gauge. im not sure any goalie is worth one of those kids straight up. tough to say, but a high pick or an elite prospect makes more sense in some ways.

switching out a yaks for a Simmonds (+) type player might actually give both teams a more well rounded team and something they currently lack.

of course id love that + to be a Coburn dependin gon what we added with yaks, but even another defensively responsible forward in couturier might make us much deeper and tough to match up with

I don't like you. You made me look at their website to see if it was true.
- ChetManly

sorry but I wish it was true

Sure the Oilers could turn Eberle into Giroux. They just have to include Hall and Schultz.
Given Giroux's awful year, when he's on (which he hasn't been), he's a point-per-game player and one of the top-5 forwards in the league. The problem is, for the past 30 games or so, he hasn't been on. That said, the Flyers would be foolish to make a 1-for-1 trade, or even Eberle+random assets trade, and I'm a big Eberle fan.
- jmatchett383

Troll....

Yup lets trade 2 point per game guys and a top pair puck moving D for Giroux....

Troll....

Yup lets trade 2 point per game guys and a top pair puck moving D for Giroux....
- Iggysbff

just on some wonderful meds

Hall/Giroux/Hemmer
Perron/Nuge/Yak

excuse me but I have to change my underwear now

I absolutely love Eberle... I am sure losing him would bite us in the ass somehow.

But.

It is very very very very very very clear to me that Edmonton can not continue to build around small skilled forwards.

Not if they want to win a cup against some of the monsters in the western conference.

If this rumor is true this is an excellent opportunity to get bigger, stronger, and grittier.

The kind of opportunity that arm chair GMs have been saying the Oilers needed but there would be no team who could give up skilled players with size for what the Oilers were offering. Small players with skill.

I know there is only a snow balls chance in hell that something happens that I will be happy with or at all but... This has gotten me excited.

Philly is known for making big moves and isn't afraid to look like the team that 'lost" the trade.

Damn. This could/should be awesome.

Eberle is a great player but his skill set is redundant in our organization. The flyers have what we need and would probably give it up.

Eberle makes players around him better... He is our best winger- he has the smarts and skill as well as stats to prove it... Last year he was near the top in scoring and he played most season with an injured hand FFS... He does not have the speed of Hall nor the flash of 1st overall but until proven otherwise he is our best player...
- saskoil21

Hall is hands down the better player. And that's not just my opinion but the opinion of most of the GM's in the league. Hall is rated far higher and drives the play on every shift. Eberle doesn't.

just on some wonderful meds

Hall/Giroux/Hemmer
Perron/Nuge/Yak

excuse me but I have to change my underwear now
- Killbot460

Pretty weak right side

Pretty weak right side
- Reveen

Fine

Hall Giroux Macintyre

Fine

Hall Giroux Macintyre


- nagasadow

that's better

Fine

Hall Giroux Macintyre


- nagasadow

What about downie he's a ufa.

What about downie he's a ufa.
- Killbot460

Downie for the 4th line

I believe there is some traction to this rumor...

However, I am willing to bet my own life that a G for Eberle swap WILL NOT HAPPEN. Makes NO sense for either team. Realistically, I see one of a few trades scenarios being proposed, see below:


A) Couturier + Coburn ------> Eberle + 2nd/3rd pick

B) Schenn's + prospect X ---------> Eberle+

C) Coburn, Read, and Cousins or Laughton --------> Eberle+
- Flyers_V88

Option C kind of sucks for Edmonton unless they get real lucky and all forwards end up being 50 point players but the other 2 are very solid.

Nice value, very close.

Only got to about page 5 and cant take it anymore!

Yeti! I'm trying not to snap on these foolish posts!

I see a ban coming if I keep reading! I'm out!

Only got to about page 5 and cant take it anymore!

Yeti! I'm trying not to snap on these foolish posts!

I see a ban coming if I keep reading! I'm out!
- Iggysbff

Are we getting a goalie?? or is Bachman back?
- saskoil21

He's back Taking care of business!

Hall is hands down the better player. And that's not just my opinion but the opinion of most of the GM's in the league. Hall is rated far higher and drives the play on every shift. Eberle doesn't.
- Iggysbff

without question.

hall is simply in another echelon of hockey player.

ebs is my fav player, so fun to watch and id love to keep him, and I think we can and still get better. but between the two, there's no question who's the tougher player to replace.
slick scorers with ebs skill are great to have, but theyre complimentary players in relation to guys like hall and the nuge that one builds a team around.

even putting hall's better ppg aside, he's so much more to the oilers than just a scorer.

bottom line is there is absolutely no chance hall nor the nuge get moved/
the same cannot be said about ebs or yaks.

I absolutely love Eberle... I am sure losing him would bite us in the ass somehow.

But.

It is very very very very very very clear to me that Edmonton can not continue to build around small skilled forwards.

Not if they want to win a cup against some of the monsters in the western conference.

If this rumor is true this is an excellent opportunity to get bigger, stronger, and grittier.

The kind of opportunity that arm chair GMs have been saying the Oilers needed but there would be no team who could give up skilled players with size for what the Oilers were offering. Small players with skill.

I know there is only a snow balls chance in hell that something happens that I will be happy with or at all but... This has gotten me excited.

Philly is known for making big moves and isn't afraid to look like the team that 'lost" the trade.

Damn. This could/should be awesome.

Eberle is a great player but his skill set is redundant in our organization. The flyers have what we need and would probably give it up.
- Aerchon

You realize they would have to beat a team in the East too right?

What about

B. Schenn, L. Schenn, and Simmonds for Eberle and Gagner

Gagner becomes expendable as B Schenn gives you are bigger body and equally talented second line C. L. Schenn comes as the package deal with his brother and is in the doghouse right now, but could bounce back under a D first system like Eakins. Simmonds is a perfect fit on the top 6 in Edmonton adding grit and net drive.

I think that's a fairly equal trade. A pick or prospect might need to be included.

without question.

hall is simply in another echelon of hockey player.

ebs is my fav player, so fun to watch and id love to keep him, and I think we can and still get better. but between the two, there's no question who's the tougher player to replace.
slick scorers with ebs skill are great to have, but theyre complimentary players in relation to guys like hall and the nuge that one builds a team around.

bottom line is there is absolutely no chance hall nor the nuge get moved/
the same cannot be said about ebs or yaks.
- hugefemale dog77

Theres a bunch of idiot leafs fans saying Ebs is the Oils best player.. When i say Hall is i get "Do you even watch hockey bro"?? Yes bro i do. I really hope you guys get something going soon. It sucks living in Alberta and not even being interested in Oilers games.

Option C kind of sucks for Edmonton unless they get real lucky and all forwards end up being 50 point players but the other 2 are very solid.

Nice value, very close.
- Steven_Dean

Yeah, was trying to get as fair and realistic of a deal as possible. I honestly see something along the lines of Coburn and Couturier for Eberle. I don't think the Flyers want to deal Simmonds, and Edmonton is in need of defensive help, not offensive.

Obviously anything is possible, but I think an educated guess would lay somewhere along those lines.

What about

B. Schenn, L. Schenn, and Simmonds for Eberle and Gagner

Gagner becomes expendable as B Schenn gives you are bigger body and equally talented second line C. L. Schenn comes as the package deal with his brother and is in the doghouse right now, but could bounce back under a D first system like Eakins. Simmonds is a perfect fit on the top 6 in Edmonton adding grit and net drive.

I think that's a fairly equal trade. A pick or prospect might need to be included.
- ILoveLamp

I like what you're thinking, but I don't think the Flyers would want to deal that much size and only get two players under 6'0'' back... Just my opinion. Otherwise, the value is quite good for both teams.