beat me to it.
- stayinthefnnet

You could give Coots better wingers, and let Giroux work his back up to the top line. He is not deserving of it now, injury or not. And while I agree Coots is not much better, he is still barely in his 20's and can still learn. Maybe we should have Pronger shadow him for awhile to get some sort of edge.

Does Smid and this years 1st get the Oilers Coburn and McGinn? I'd be inclined to ask for a 3rd or something from the Flyers as well, but I may hold a bit of a bias.
- MaximumBone

I'd probably be OK giving them Coburn and McGinn for Smid straight up

apologize if its already been discussed, but any of you guys actually taking eberle rumors seriously? from what ive seen tim panachio largely sucks, but id figure some of you guys on here would know more than i do
- stayinthefnnet

I think Tim is a moron, but where there is smoke there is fire. I doubt it involves Eberle, but I'm 75% certain Edmonton and Flyers are very close on a deal... Only thing that I think could stop it is NYR.

The 3 teams are just perfect trading partners. All 3 are struggling, so no team is trading from a position of weakness. I believe both the FLyers and Rangers are going after Yakupov. I think Rangers have more attractive defenseman which edmonton needs, but the Flyers have better secondary pieces to kick in with a defenseman. Edmonton has been dying for Simmonds for a while...

I can see 2 things happening... 1 Coburn, Simmonds, Laughton for Yakupov. Or 2 Schenns for Yakupov.

I suggested him as a possible target a few weeks ago, but I can't see the Oilers being willing to move him unless the Flyers included guys who were considered untouchables a few weeks ago.
- Jsaquella

for eberle, no one on this roster would be untouchable except giroux for me. i absolutely love him. i would kill for him on crosby's line. the guy is a stud.

A 2nd I'd be wary of.

Still doin it for a 3rd. Can't guarantee EDM does though.....
- Giroux_Is_God

Oh, neither am I, but if I were the GM, the trading of the 1st would be more of a statement. Improve the team now and show that management isn't done with losing. The team has enough prospects that they can afford to make such a move and the upgrade Coburn brings is well worth it IMO. If it were a 2nd coming back in that deal, I'd take it any day. A 3rd and I'd be a little hesitant.

I just like to gauge how other team's fans value their players of interest. Helps put things into perspective!

I'd probably be OK giving them Coburn and McGinn for Smid straight up
- Jsaquella

I assume you're the outlier, though, right? Cause damn I'd take that and run!

for eberle, no one on this roster would be untouchable except giroux for me. i absolutely love him. i would kill for him on crosby's line. the guy is a stud.
- stayinthefnnet

Absolutely. He's a stud. Has everything that they need. Speed, scoring ability and he's got a knack for finding the net

I think Tim is a moron, but where there is smoke there is fire. I doubt it involves Eberle, but I'm 75% certain Edmonton and Flyers are very close on a deal... Only thing that I think could stop it is NYR.

The 3 teams are just perfect trading partners. All 3 are struggling, so no team is trading from a position of weakness. I believe both the FLyers and Rangers are going after Yakupov. I think Rangers have more attractive defenseman which edmonton needs, but the Flyers have better secondary pieces to kick in with a defenseman. Edmonton has been dying for Simmonds for a while...

I can see 2 things happening... 1 Coburn, Simmonds, Laughton for Yakupov. Or 2 Schenns for Yakupov.
- youarewrong

i like simmonds a ton, but if you can turn him into yakupov its worth a shot. my only worry is any potential character issues yak may have (he admittedly may have none, im not an expert on his personality) this flyers team cant afford adding less heart. but from what i have seen of his game, the guy is definitely a talent for sure.

I assume you're the outlier, though, right? Cause damn I'd take that and run!
- MaximumBone

I like McGinn, but I don;t see him as a future John LeClair.

Absolutely. He's a stud. Has everything that they need. Speed, scoring ability and he's got a knack for finding the net
- Jsaquella

100 percent agree. and he just oozes positive intangibles. you get him and put him on a line with giroux, this slump will be in the rear view mirror before you know it.

I like McGinn, but I don;t see him as a future John LeClair.
- Jsaquella

Neither do I, but I think he could bring presence to the Oilers' top-9. Perhaps even be capable of playing with Nuge and Eberle on the 2nd line a year or two down the road.

100 percent agree. and he just oozes positive intangibles. you get him and put him on a line with giroux, this slump will be in the rear view mirror before you know it.
- stayinthefnnet

That was my rationale when I suggested a possible deal for him. I'd be willing to trade a lot to land him...but I doubt Edmonton is willing to move him.

Of course, I didn't think that the Flyers would move Richards, or that Vancouver would move Schneider, either

I think Tim is a moron, but where there is smoke there is fire. I doubt it involves Eberle, but I'm 75% certain Edmonton and Flyers are very close on a deal... Only thing that I think could stop it is NYR.

The 3 teams are just perfect trading partners. All 3 are struggling, so no team is trading from a position of weakness. I believe both the FLyers and Rangers are going after Yakupov. I think Rangers have more attractive defenseman which edmonton needs, but the Flyers have better secondary pieces to kick in with a defenseman. Edmonton has been dying for Simmonds for a while...

I can see 2 things happening... 1 Coburn, Simmonds, Laughton for Yakupov. Or 2 Schenns for Yakupov.
- youarewrong

I would do both....If you can find a taker for mez now your starting to shed some salary

Neither do I, but I think he could bring presence to the Oilers' top-9. Perhaps even be capable of playing with Nuge and Eberle on the 2nd line a year or two down the road.
- MaximumBone

Yeah, the deal would be to lose Coburn more than trade McGinn.

100 percent agree. and he just oozes positive intangibles. you get him and put him on a line with giroux, this slump will be in the rear view mirror before you know it.
- stayinthefnnet

Giroux and Eberle hold a lot of similarities actually. Both are 5'11. Both have sick mitts. Both have played C and RW at some point. Both are noted more for smooth skating than they are for speed. Both were drafted 22nd overall. Both are slippery as hell. Both had respectable rookie season and then broke out for 76 points in their next season.

Yeah, the deal would be to lose Coburn more than trade McGinn.
- Jsaquella

Do you not like Coburn or?

Do you not like Coburn or?
- MaximumBone

I'd rather lose Grossmann, but I'm OK with losing Coburn's contract

Yes. And apparently he's supposed to be playing like a 28-year-old #1.
- bodiva88

He's 24 (not a huge difference) and #1 defensemen are offensive defensemen which he is not projected to be.

Carl Gunnarson, who holds down the #2 job , generally the highest a defensive defenseman can climb, in Toronto and is only 26.

Do you think Carl Gunnarson should be a trade target worthy of a top line forward?

I believe both the FLyers and Rangers are going after Yakupov.
- youarewrong

Have you seen this rumor somewhere credible? You mention trades for Yakupov, like, alot.

That was my rationale when I suggested a possible deal for him. I'd be willing to trade a lot to land him...but I doubt Edmonton is willing to move him.

Of course, I didn't think that the Flyers would move Richards, or that Vancouver would move Schneider, either
- Jsaquella

Yeah would love to see Eberle on this team and would give up a ton for him. He is what they need right now. I agree that Oilers probably wont deal him. I just read an article from an Edmonton writer saying he doubts they would trade him, but if there is a validation for trading him its that the Oilers have too many of the same player on the wing. They would love to trade Hemsky but he wouldnt net the return, nor has the takers right now.....so we will see

Giroux and Eberle hold a lot of similarities actually. Both are 5'11. Both have sick mitts. Both have played C and RW at some point. Both are noted more for smooth skating than they are for speed. Both were drafted 22nd overall. Both are slippery as hell. Both had respectable rookie season and then broke out for 76 points in their next season.
- MaximumBone

despite all those similarities, i dont think theyd be too similar to work together. i think they would be perfect. giroux can score, but he definitely strikes me more as the play making type. nuge is pretty darn good, but i wouldnt say he is there yet at that level. eberle and giroux would make a dominant combo. giroux would be able to feed eberle, and the subsequent space and not needing to the be sole scorer on his line would probably make scoring easier for giroux himself as well.

Have you seen this rumor somewhere credible? You mention trades for Yakupov, like, alot.
- johndewar

Is any rumor creditable until it happens?

I'd rather lose Grossmann, but I'm OK with losing Coburn's contract
- Jsaquella

Ok. Nice to know how some of you stand on Coburn. Thanks and good luck to your team! They're bound to start scoring sometime. It's rare for any team to have 6 of their top-9 forwards shooting well below their career averages and when it does happen, they almost always rediscover their touch!

Yeah would love to see Eberle on this team and would give up a ton for him. He is what they need right now. I agree that Oilers probably wont deal him. I just read an article from an Edmonton writer saying he doubts they would trade him, but if there is a validation for trading him its that the Oilers have too many of the same player on the wing. They would love to trade Hemsky but he wouldnt net the return, nor has the takers right now.....so we will see
- nonpoint22

yeah. from an oilers standpoint, i do see the problem in too many wing/scorer types, but eberle isnt the one to make room by moving, regardless of the return. hemsky can piss off.

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