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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Nov 8 @ 1:49 PM ET
It was a ghost town. I was just you, Bill, 12 trolls and myself and the trolls felt bad for us.
- mayorofangrytown

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 1:50 PM ET
The Flyers have Downie, Hartnell and Simmonds in their top 9 forwards right now.

Too much toughness and penalties, not nearly enough skating and goal scoring.

- Feanor

That's what it comes down to. That and the lack of speed on the back end
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 8 @ 1:50 PM ET
Blog updated
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 8 @ 1:51 PM ET
To be fair, we haven't really gotten a look at this team with Downie for more than a minute. #nitpick
- BulliesPhan87


Anther reason not to rush to trade. Haven't even seen our last pick up play yet
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 8 @ 1:54 PM ET
Blog updated
- bmeltzer


Bill, how do they look when practicing? Are they sharp? Serious? Relaxed? Is it morose? Just trying to get a sense. Thanks,
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 8 @ 1:56 PM ET
Blog updated
- bmeltzer


Thanks for the updates
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Nov 8 @ 1:57 PM ET
* The Flyers have scored just two goals in their last four games, and are averaging 1.47 goals per game on the season. By way of comparison, even the 1930-31 Philadelphia Quakers -- perhaps the worst team in NHL history -- managed 1.73 goals per game.

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I was pretty sure the Flyers were still setting offensive records this season. Thanks for confirming it.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 8 @ 1:58 PM ET
Bill, how do they look when practicing? Are they sharp? Serious? Relaxed? Is it morose? Just trying to get a sense. Thanks,
- wilsonecho91


Hearing Berube literally laid eggshells on the ice

/sarcasm (just in case)
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 8 @ 1:58 PM ET
We boo the press, but they haven't skipped the post game interviews yet.
- BulliesPhan87

I've been watching hockey for a few years now, and I've yet to hear a single insightful word uttered by a player at a post-game interview.

Why even bother trotting the players out there?

But I don't mean to be all negative. So I've put together some quotes that all scribes can use.

For post-games the team has won
"Yeah, well what can I say, we just tried to keep it simple out there and play our game."

"Team plays with a lot of confidence, knowing that (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") is between the pipes. He gives us a chance to win every night."

"We knew (the other team) came to play, so we just had to be patient and wait for our chances. "

"We're happy to get the two points, but we know that the next game is just as important. We have to take it one game at a time."

For post-games the team has lost

"I thought we played well, we just didn't get the bounces."

"This team has too much talent to keep losing. We just need to keep working hard, taking it one shift at a time, and playing our game."

"Well, what can I say about (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") - he did enough for us to win tonight - we just couldn't come through for him."
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 8 @ 1:59 PM ET
55 points in 50 playoff games..
A point per game player over the past 3 seasons.
14 bad games , lets strip the C and trade him.

I am 100% against trading Giroux and I don't get people that ignore what he has done to this point based on this season alone.

Giroux and Voracek are the only 2 players with dynamic offensive skill on this team. Their is not a single other player that is close to a dynamic offensive player and that is the problem.

- opeth_pa


That's the part that baffles me -- if there's anybody on this roster who's proven what they are, it's Giroux. A PPG player over three consecutive seasons, and more than that in the playoffs...and we want to trade him after 15 games in a bad season?

He's proven what he is, against all kinds of competition, and, again, is 25 years old. A guy who plays in all situations?

And that's the guy some of us want to trade? Good Lord.

You trade anybody BUT Giroux, and you get better pieces to play WITH him. That's what needs to happen!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 8 @ 2:00 PM ET
55 points in 50 playoff games..
A point per game player over the past 3 seasons.
14 bad games , lets strip the C and trade him.

I am 100% against trading Giroux and I don't get people that ignore what he has done to this point based on this season alone.

Giroux and Voracek are the only 2 players with dynamic offensive skill on this team. Their is not a single other player that is close to a dynamic offensive player and that is the problem.

- opeth_pa



+1
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 2:01 PM ET
I've been watching hockey for a few years now, and I've yet to hear a single insightful word uttered by a player at a post-game interview.

Why even bother trotting the players out there?

But I don't mean to be all negative. So I've put together some quotes that all scribes can use.

For post-games the team has won
"Yeah, well what can I say, we just tried to keep it simple out there and play our game."

"Team plays with a lot of confidence, knowing that (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") is between the pipes. He gives us a chance to win every night."

"We knew (the other team) came to play, so we just had to be patient and wait for our chances. "

"We're happy to get the two points, but we know that the next game is just as important. We have to take it one game at a time."

For post-games the team has lost

"I thought we played well, we just didn't get the bounces."

"This team has too much talent to keep losing. We just need to keep working hard, taking it one shift at a time, and playing our game."

"Well, what can I say about (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") - he did enough for us to win tonight - we just couldn't come through for him."

- Atomic Wedgie

The things you are saying, I agree with them. This is a good post.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 8 @ 2:02 PM ET
I've been watching hockey for a few years now, and I've yet to hear a single insightful word uttered by a player at a post-game interview.

Why even bother trotting the players out there?

But I don't mean to be all negative. So I've put together some quotes that all scribes can use.

For post-games the team has won
"Yeah, well what can I say, we just tried to keep it simple out there and play our game."

"Team plays with a lot of confidence, knowing that (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") is between the pipes. He gives us a chance to win every night."

"We knew (the other team) came to play, so we just had to be patient and wait for our chances. "

"We're happy to get the two points, but we know that the next game is just as important. We have to take it one game at a time."

For post-games the team has lost

"I thought we played well, we just didn't get the bounces."

"This team has too much talent to keep losing. We just need to keep working hard, taking it one shift at a time, and playing our game."

"Well, what can I say about (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") - he did enough for us to win tonight - we just couldn't come through for him."

- Atomic Wedgie


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mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Nov 8 @ 2:04 PM ET
I've been watching hockey for a few years now, and I've yet to hear a single insightful word uttered by a player at a post-game interview.

Why even bother trotting the players out there?

But I don't mean to be all negative. So I've put together some quotes that all scribes can use.

For post-games the team has won
"Yeah, well what can I say, we just tried to keep it simple out there and play our game."

"Team plays with a lot of confidence, knowing that (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") is between the pipes. He gives us a chance to win every night."

"We knew (the other team) came to play, so we just had to be patient and wait for our chances. "

"We're happy to get the two points, but we know that the next game is just as important. We have to take it one game at a time."

For post-games the team has lost

"I thought we played well, we just didn't get the bounces."

"This team has too much talent to keep losing. We just need to keep working hard, taking it one shift at a time, and playing our game."

"Well, what can I say about (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") - he did enough for us to win tonight - we just couldn't come through for him."

- Atomic Wedgie


+ a lot
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 8 @ 2:10 PM ET
Bill, how do they look when practicing? Are they sharp? Serious? Relaxed? Is it morose? Just trying to get a sense. Thanks,
- wilsonecho91


They had been very focused and energetic on the ice and keeping things loose and humorous in the locker room until the last few days. Today they looked pretty weary and there weren't a lot of smiling faces.

Berube had been skating the team real hard at practice almost every day -- bordering on bag skates some days -- but today he scaled it way back. That's probably mainly due to having an afternoon game tomorrow.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Nov 8 @ 2:14 PM ET
a trade here and there will do nothing, we need a blockbuster and rebuild, the only guy in the league that would instantly change our offence would be ovie, other then that i say ill continue to dream to try and get a weber, pietranglo or oel and build from back out, though this kinda move is a pipedream, it looks like were stuck this year with what we got
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 8 @ 2:15 PM ET
I've been watching hockey for a few years now, and I've yet to hear a single insightful word uttered by a player at a post-game interview.

Why even bother trotting the players out there?

But I don't mean to be all negative. So I've put together some quotes that all scribes can use.

For post-games the team has won
"Yeah, well what can I say, we just tried to keep it simple out there and play our game."

"Team plays with a lot of confidence, knowing that (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") is between the pipes. He gives us a chance to win every night."

"We knew (the other team) came to play, so we just had to be patient and wait for our chances. "

"We're happy to get the two points, but we know that the next game is just as important. We have to take it one game at a time."

For post-games the team has lost

"I thought we played well, we just didn't get the bounces."

"This team has too much talent to keep losing. We just need to keep working hard, taking it one shift at a time, and playing our game."

"Well, what can I say about (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") - he did enough for us to win tonight - we just couldn't come through for him."

- Atomic Wedgie


For the most part, yes. But there are some players -- Mike Knuble was the best I've spoken to -- who are good at stepping outside the cliches and giving you some actual insight about where things went right or wrong. Hal Gill is good at it, too. Ditto Kimmo Timonen when he feels like talking (which has been infrequent lately because he's unhappy with himself above all else and he'd rather say nothing at all than BS you).


KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Nov 8 @ 2:15 PM ET
They had been very focused and energetic on the ice and keeping things loose and humorous in the locker room until the last few days. Today they looked pretty weary and there weren't a lot of smiling faces.

Berube had been skating the team real hard at practice almost every day -- bordering on bag skates some days -- but today he scaled it way back. That's probably mainly due to having an afternoon game tomorrow.

- bmeltzer


Bill, how is it possible that this team isn't even playing fundamental offensive hockey?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 2:16 PM ET
I've been watching hockey for a few years now, and I've yet to hear a single insightful word uttered by a player at a post-game interview.

Why even bother trotting the players out there?

But I don't mean to be all negative. So I've put together some quotes that all scribes can use.

For post-games the team has won
"Yeah, well what can I say, we just tried to keep it simple out there and play our game."

"Team plays with a lot of confidence, knowing that (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") is between the pipes. He gives us a chance to win every night."

"We knew (the other team) came to play, so we just had to be patient and wait for our chances. "

"We're happy to get the two points, but we know that the next game is just as important. We have to take it one game at a time."

For post-games the team has lost

"I thought we played well, we just didn't get the bounces."

"This team has too much talent to keep losing. We just need to keep working hard, taking it one shift at a time, and playing our game."

"Well, what can I say about (stupid nickname for goalie, usually taking first syllable of last name and adding "zie" or "zer") - he did enough for us to win tonight - we just couldn't come through for him."

- Atomic Wedgie


You obviously never listened to Roenick or Pronger interviews.... pure gold.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 8 @ 2:16 PM ET
* The Flyers have scored just two goals in their last four games, and are averaging 1.47 goals per game on the season. By way of comparison, even the 1930-31 Philadelphia Quakers -- perhaps the worst team in NHL history -- managed 1.73 goals per game.

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I was pretty sure the Flyers were still setting offensive records this season. Thanks for confirming it.

- Flyers_01


That stat comparison is (frank)ing hilarious. Someone get me a beer.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 8 @ 2:16 PM ET
They had been very focused and energetic on the ice and keeping things loose and humorous in the locker room until the last few days. Today they looked pretty weary and there weren't a lot of smiling faces.

Berube had been skating the team real hard at practice almost every day -- bordering on bag skates some days -- but today he scaled it way back. That's probably mainly due to having an afternoon game tomorrow.

- bmeltzer


thanks Bill
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Nov 8 @ 2:17 PM ET
It's hard to argue for big trades when this team....specifically these players (other than the few additions) have played well together, have been offensive producers in the past.

It's mind boggling to me that they can't score but I can't advocate for a tear down and rebuild. Maybe a little further into this season but not now.

I hate to say it because its painful to watch but these players need to stay on this team and play every game until the work through this.

It would be widely unprecedented that a whole team forgets how to hockey for a whole season.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 8 @ 2:20 PM ET
Especially ghoulbourne
- funmaster18

He's on my watch list so I can make statements about his play intelligently.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 8 @ 2:22 PM ET
He's on my watch list so I can make statements about his play intelligently.
- mayorofangrytown


Why would you do a thing like that?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 2:23 PM ET
Dreger saying Eberle Not in play.
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