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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
I'm willing to give Hextall a shot, FWIW, the Flyers seemed to make a lot more questionable moves after Hextall left to go to LA.
- BiggE

Tbh. This is the only reason ill give legitimacy too but he's been here for some dumb moves too.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
Here's a thought
They are NOT making the playoffs this year no matter what moves they make so I would rather see them do the following:

1. Fire Holmgren, replace with Hextall. Time for a new man at the helm

2. Wait til the deadline to move as many vets as possible, that is when you will get the most for them.

3. At the end of the season, hire Dave Poulin as head coach with Terry Murray as associate coach, the only assistant coach they should keep is Lappy. Offer Berube the head coaching spot in Allentown, this mess is not his fault.

4. Do NOT trade picks and young prospects, realize that it will take a couple of years to fix this mess and the way to do it is to build through the draft. It would be foolish to give up boatloads of high picks, young players, and top prospects to get 28-31 year old top pair dmen. HAVE PATIENCE!

- BiggE


This is going to be my new motto, so get used to hearing it. Some people think all young players are like eggs. Sit on them long enough and Wayne Gretzky will hatch and all your problems are solved.

Point being, if your patient with the wrong players, they will still be the wrong players after a few years.

When we traded for BSchenn, it looked like he could be a more offensive Mike Richards... but now we realize he doesn't have a great defensive game, and his offense isnt there either. He will likely be a career 2nd line player.

When we drafted Couturier, we thought with his combo of defense ability, and the offense he showed in juniors he could be like Joe Thornton, or at least Jordan Staal. Well 3 years later and there is no offense. He will likely either be a 2nd or 3rd line Center.

The point being, these guys, while you need 2nd and 3rd line players, should not stop you from making moves to aquire players that can be more.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
Yes
- BulliesPhan87


Great, thanks for playing.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
So Saturday's game is at 1pm, guess it's scotch with lunch then!
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:45 AM ET
You really love Yakupov, eh?

And why the hell would we trade Mason for an unproven kid?

- wolfhounds



2 years ago we traded our captain and best goal scorer for unproven kids, and look how well that worked for us
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
This is going to be my new motto, so get used to hearing it. Some people think all young players are like eggs. Sit on them long enough and Wayne Gretzky will hatch and all your problems are solved.

Point being, if your patient with the wrong players, they will still be the wrong players after a few years.

When we traded for BSchenn, it looked like he could be a more offensive Mike Richards... but now we realize he doesn't have a great defensive game, and his offense isnt there either. He will likely be a career 2nd line player.

When we drafted Couturier, we thought with his combo of defense ability, and the offense he showed in juniors he could be like Joe Thornton, or at least Jordan Staal. Well 3 years later and there is no offense. He will likely either be a 2nd or 3rd line Center.

The point being, these guys, while you need 2nd and 3rd line players, should not stop you from making moves to aquire players that can be more.

- youarewrong


If schenn becomes a 2nd line player I wouldn't mind him.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
So Saturday's game is at 1pm, guess it's scotch with lunch then!
- BiggE

Ill be doing whiskey myself but yea
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
I'm planning on watching Sat's game but maybe I shouldn't.
Last night was bad. Just over the top WTF bad.
Poor Mez I wanted to smack him and then give him a hug then smack him again.

I'm due a jersey for my birthday the end of this month but with no clue who is going to be here I'll just pick something non hockey related.


One of my friends was like - wow you watched the game last night? At least no one can call you a fair weather fan.
Yeah great. Our call to fame.

So Sat is G's sweet 16 game. And he WILL score! right? RIGHT?

Even Bill's blog's are beginning to sound disgusted with a team that just isn't showing up.

- FlyersGrace


And that is telling since he should be used to this, coving Dallas and all.... lol

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
2 years ago we traded our captain and best goal scorer for unproven kids, and look how well that worked for us
- Trainfellow

Yea id really like a redo on the Richards trade...
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
So Saturday's game is at 1pm, guess it's scotch with lunch then!
- BiggE

yep... I'll be making home made southern style pecan pies. Might as well throw some scotch in to make the game watchable.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
Great, thanks for playing.
- Flyersgod

you forgot to give him his complimentary can of turtle wax...


JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
You really love Yakupov, eh?

And why the hell would we trade Mason for an unproven kid?

- wolfhounds


Nothing against Mason but the Oilers would never take a guy like Mason for a potential superstar in time. Mason past history still make him suspect in my opinion. If Yak was truly available for Mason I would do it in a heartbeat. There are lots of goalies available who are nhl ready that are in the AHL. Martin Jones for one is a capable starter who will never get a chance in LA.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:48 AM ET
I mean, I guess I could pitch some stupid ideas too. Here goes!

I think the Flyers should practice without footwear this week. Maybe once they get frostbitten feet they'll appreciate skating again!

I think the Flyers should literally put management on the ice for the rest of the games. They'll learn what conditions they're putting guys in when they make decisions!

I think the Flyers should ice the "mites on ice" kids for the third period from now on. Let the kids get a taste of the NHL, get them ready for a bright hockey future today!
I think the Flyers should sign Nickelback to play on Giroux's line!

I think Flyers management should be replaced with the most restless natives on this forum, since obviously they know the secret tricks to fixing this franchise!

- BulliesPhan87


South Park Did It!

South Park Did It!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:49 AM ET
Hexy liked giving players a pat on their legs
- vejim

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:49 AM ET
you forgot to give him his complimentary can of turtle wax...



- PhillaBully

I'm holding out for the boombox, the roller blades, and the week at space camp.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
South Park Did It!

South Park Did It!

- youarewrong

busted!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
I'm holding out for the boombox, the roller blades, and the week at space camp.
- BulliesPhan87

Asphyxiation is a horrible way to die.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
It's really gonna suck missing the playoffs AGAIN!!!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
Yea id really like a redo on the Richards trade...
- JoeRussomanno


Could really use Carters scoring too.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
It's really gonna suck missing the playoffs AGAIN!!!
- JoeRussomanno

what would Keith Allen do?
jackfrost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.30.2007

Nov 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
what would Keith Allen do?
- vejim



Keith Allen would never be in this position in the first place ...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
So Saturday's game is at 1pm
- BiggE


Generally I hate afternoon games because I have no spare time during the day on a weekend and almost always miss them.

However, given the current sorry state of affairs, I am glad this is an afternoon game because, as usual, I have things I want to do during the day. So I will miss the game and can watch hockey for the enjoyment of the game come Saturday night.

win-win for me
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
Drastic, but do-able.

Mason straight up for Yakupov. With the way Mason has been playing, and the way Dubnyak has been playing... I know it will be tough moving Mason.

Simmonds + Conditional 1st round pick for Miller. If Miller re-signs Flyers give 2015 first. If not 2nd round in 2015.

Coburn, Read, Laughton, 2014 2nd for Byfuglien & Little.

Yakupov-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Lecavalier-Little
Schenn-Couturier-Downie
Raffl-Holmstrom-Rinaldo

Timonen-Byfuglien
Streit-Schenn
Grossmann-Gus/Mez

Miller
Emery

- youarewrong




youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
busted!
- BulliesPhan87


Ha, did you see what I did there.... not only did I pick up on the South Park reference, but I also reference the South Park episode of "The Simpsons Did it". I am so smart... S-M-R-T
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
Keith Allen would never be in this position in the first place ...
- jackfrost


Keith Allen never had to work in a Salary Cap world.

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