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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
Here's a thought
They are NOT making the playoffs this year no matter what moves they make so I would rather see them do the following:

1. Fire Holmgren, replace with Hextall. Time for a new man at the helm

2. Wait til the deadline to move as many vets as possible, that is when you will get the most for them.

3. At the end of the season, hire Dave Poulin as head coach with Terry Murray as associate coach, the only assistant coach they should keep is Lappy. Offer Berube the head coaching spot in Allentown, this mess is not his fault.

4. Do NOT trade picks and young prospects, realize that it will take a couple of years to fix this mess and the way to do it is to build through the draft. It would be foolish to give up boatloads of high picks, young players, and top prospects to get 28-31 year old top pair dmen. HAVE PATIENCE!

- BiggE


Sorry big e I'm totally against the dogma and beaten to death practice of former flyers in management roles here... The front office needs to be totally cleaned out... As Jsaq said on page 1 the flyers are now the Oakland raiders of hockey...
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
Actually, if I remember correctly it was statutory rape he was convicted of. He was late teens 19 or possible early 20’s and the girl was 17. It wasn’t that she wasn’t a willing participant it was that she was under age.

Not justifying it, but it wasn’t forcible rape.

- hockeylover

get out of here with your truth and reason
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
I'm planning on watching Sat's game but maybe I shouldn't.
Last night was bad. Just over the top WTF bad.
Poor Mez I wanted to smack him and then give him a hug then smack him again.

I'm due a jersey for my birthday the end of this month but with no clue who is going to be here I'll just pick something non hockey related.


One of my friends was like - wow you watched the game last night? At least no one can call you a fair weather fan.
Yeah great. Our call to fame.

So Sat is G's sweet 16 game. And he WILL score! right? RIGHT?

Even Bill's blog's are beginning to sound disgusted with a team that just isn't showing up.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
exactly if you dont offer a counter argument you might as well just shut up.
- PhillaBully


Man, you got the best avitar ever,
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 8 @ 10:36 AM ET
Sorry big e I'm totally against the dogma and beaten to death practice of former flyers in management roles here... The front office needs to be totally cleaned out... As Jsaq said on page 1 the flyers are now the Oakland raiders of hockey...
- JoeRussomanno

at least Hexy doesnt have the bully stigma
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:36 AM ET
It blows me away to see a team just turn to poop in what I thought was going to be a good year with the three new addtions. The stats on guys like Giroux, Hartnell, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn to name a few are hard to believe. In the last 40 or so games they have all totally lost their game. I wish I knew the answer but the future is not looking too good. I managed to trade Giroux for E. Staal in my keeper pool and got a late pick for Hartnell. I hated to do it but I just could not watch my star player 28 do nothing. Staal is not doing much either but at least his team is winning.
- flyerdude17

The three new additions were mediocre.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
Possible deadline moves, assuming some of these guys are willing to waive NTC/NMCs

1. Mezaros to anyone for anything

2. Timonen to Colorado for a 2nd in 2014 and a 3rd in 2015

3. Lacavalier to St. Louis for a 1st in 2014 and a 2nd in 2015

4. Hartnell to Montreal for a 3rd in 2014 or 15, Montreal's choice. When you consider his current contract, that's the most you will get for him.

5. Emery to LA for a 3rd in 2014 or 15, LA's choice. They will want a reliable backup for Quick heading into the playoffs

6. Grossmann to Anaheim for a 2nd in 2014 and a 4th in 2015

I can't see anyone interested in Streit due to his contract/age and I would most likely keep Coburn since he is the only vet dman that can actually skate.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
I'm planning on watching Sat's game but maybe I shouldn't.
Last night was bad. Just over the top WTF bad.
Poor Mez I wanted to smack him and then give him a hug then smack him again.

I'm due a jersey for my birthday the end of this month but with no clue who is going to be here I'll just pick something non hockey related.


One of my friends was like - wow you watched the game last night? At least no one can call you a fair weather fan.
Yeah great. Our call to fame.

So Sat is G's sweet 16 game. And he WILL score! right? RIGHT?

Even Bill's blog's are beginning to sound disgusted with a team that just isn't showing up.

- FlyersGrace



I'd go for a blank jersey and have the number and name put on when the dust settles
Vinny is good for 5 years
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
Drastic, but do-able.

Mason straight up for Yakupov. With the way Mason has been playing, and the way Dubnyak has been playing... I know it will be tough moving Mason.

Simmonds + Conditional 1st round pick for Miller. If Miller re-signs Flyers give 2015 first. If not 2nd round in 2015.

Coburn, Read, Laughton, 2014 2nd for Byfuglien & Little.

Yakupov-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Lecavalier-Little
Schenn-Couturier-Downie
Raffl-Holmstrom-Rinaldo

Timonen-Byfuglien
Streit-Schenn
Grossmann-Gus/Mez

Miller
Emery

- youarewrong


You really love Yakupov, eh?

And why the hell would we trade Mason for an unproven kid?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 8 @ 10:38 AM ET
I'm planning on watching Sat's game but maybe I shouldn't.
Last night was bad. Just over the top WTF bad.
Poor Mez I wanted to smack him and then give him a hug then smack him again.

I'm due a jersey for my birthday the end of this month but with no clue who is going to be here I'll just pick something non hockey related.


One of my friends was like - wow you watched the game last night? At least no one can call you a fair weather fan.
Yeah great. Our call to fame.

So Sat is G's sweet 16 game. And he WILL score! right? RIGHT?

Even Bill's blog's are beginning to sound disgusted with a team that just isn't showing up.

- FlyersGrace


How bout an Orange home Flyers jersey with 00 Griswold on the back.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:39 AM ET
at least Hexy doesnt have the bully stigma
- vejim

Ask kent Nilsson bout that.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:39 AM ET
Sorry big e I'm totally against the dogma and beaten to death practice of former flyers in management roles here... The front office needs to be totally cleaned out... As Jsaq said on page 1 the flyers are now the Oakland raiders of hockey...
- JoeRussomanno


I'm willing to give Hextall a shot, FWIW, the Flyers seemed to make a lot more questionable moves after Hextall left to go to LA.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:40 AM ET
I'm planning on watching Sat's game but maybe I shouldn't.
Last night was bad. Just over the top WTF bad.
Poor Mez I wanted to smack him and then give him a hug then smack him again.

I'm due a jersey for my birthday the end of this month but with no clue who is going to be here I'll just pick something non hockey related.


One of my friends was like - wow you watched the game last night? At least no one can call you a fair weather fan.
Yeah great. Our call to fame.

So Sat is G's sweet 16 game. And he WILL score! right? RIGHT?

Even Bill's blog's are beginning to sound disgusted with a team that just isn't showing up.

- FlyersGrace



Get your own Number put your name on the back and lace them up. You could probably help this team.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:41 AM ET
Sorry big e I'm totally against the dogma and beaten to death practice of former flyers in management roles here... The front office needs to be totally cleaned out... As Jsaq said on page 1 the flyers are now the Oakland raiders of hockey...
- JoeRussomanno


What they need is a team of coaches to develop prospects. Have we ever drafted a dman who developed here into a top 4 guy?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:41 AM ET
exactly if you dont offer a counter argument you might as well just shut up.
- PhillaBully

I mean, I guess I could pitch some stupid ideas too. Here goes!

I think the Flyers should practice without footwear this week. Maybe once they get frostbitten feet they'll appreciate skating again!

I think the Flyers should literally put management on the ice for the rest of the games. They'll learn what conditions they're putting guys in when they make decisions!

I think the Flyers should ice the "mites on ice" kids for the third period from now on. Let the kids get a taste of the NHL, get them ready for a bright hockey future today!

I think the Flyers should sign Nickelback to play on Giroux's line!

I think Flyers management should be replaced with the most restless natives on this forum, since obviously they know the secret tricks to fixing this franchise!
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:41 AM ET
Get your own Number put your name on the back and lace them up. You could probably help this team.
- LJF

I think the only woman who has ever played in the NHL was in goal. And that's where we don't need help.

Although at this point the US women's hockey team could probably do a better job out there.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 8 @ 10:42 AM ET
Ask kent Nilsson bout that.
- JoeRussomanno

Hexy liked giving players a pat on their legs
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:42 AM ET
Possible deadline moves, assuming some of these guys are willing to waive NTC/NMCs

1. Mezaros to anyone for anything

2. Timonen to Colorado for a 2nd in 2014 and a 3rd in 2015

3. Lacavalier to St. Louis for a 1st in 2014 and a 2nd in 2015

4. Hartnell to Montreal for a 3rd in 2014 or 15, Montreal's choice. When you consider his current contract, that's the most you will get for him.

5. Emery to LA for a 3rd in 2014 or 15, LA's choice. They will want a reliable backup for Quick heading into the playoffs

6. Grossmann to Anaheim for a 2nd in 2014 and a 4th in 2015

I can't see anyone interested in Streit due to his contract/age and I would most likely keep Coburn since he is the only vet dman that can actually skate.

- BiggE



Nobody will take Mezaros, what a useless piece of bullpoop.
Timmonen will retire
Hartnell will be hard to trade, make him the highest paid grinder in the league
Emery is a ufa and somebody will have interest in him, he is not the problem
Grossman is tradeable but who replace him
Streit is useless and Coburn has mental issues that do not match his skill set
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:42 AM ET
the 2006 team scored 214 goals and 10 home wins
- vejim


For this team to hit 214 goals they'd have to score at 2.86 goals per game for the rest of the season.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 8 @ 10:42 AM ET
Flyers fans are past getting angry. They're starting to get apathetic. The Flyers are turning into the Oakland Raiders of the NHL.
- Jsaquella


Someone tweeted your latest. Good stuff.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 8 @ 10:42 AM ET
I think the only woman who has ever played in the NHL was in goal. And that's where don't need help.

Although at this point the US women's hockey team could probably do a better job out there.

- FlyersGrace

we need a Hilary Clinton
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:43 AM ET
I mean, I guess I could pitch some stupid ideas too. Here goes!

I think the Flyers should practice without footwear this week. Maybe once they get frostbitten feet they'll appreciate skating again!

I think the Flyers should literally put management on the ice for the rest of the games. They'll learn what conditions they're putting guys in when they make decisions!

I think the Flyers should ice the "mites on ice" kids for the third period from now on. Let the kids get a taste of the NHL, get them ready for a bright hockey future today!

I think the Flyers should sign Nickelback to play on Giroux's line!

I think Flyers management should be replaced with the most restless natives on this forum, since obviously they know the secret tricks to fixing this franchise!

- BulliesPhan87


Isn't the point of the message board to share ideas and create discussions?

Or is it to make really lame jokes about lame ass movies from 20 years ago?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:43 AM ET
Hexy liked giving players a pat on their legs
- vejim

"a pat"
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
Isn't the point of the message board to share ideas and create discussions?

Or is it to make really lame jokes about lame ass movies from 20 years ago?

- Flyersgod

Yes

EDIT: and for the record, the only one curtailing conversation (translation: saying "shut up") is Mr. Bully. The other Mr. Bully.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
For this team to hit 214 goals they'd have to score at 2.86 goals per game for the rest of the season.
- Feanor

Seriously?
Wow. Just wow.
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