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PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:22 AM ET
A powerful teacher of lessons such as, "You're not good enough, bumhole. You probably won't ever be, either."
- BulliesPhan87


you know what that can be a great motivator for some to rise to the occassion. Let the kids get a taste and see what they have to work on....to be honest i dont want bumholes with fragile psyches....the cream will always rise to the top.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:22 AM ET
Funny, McGinn has 24 games played in the NHL and has 6 goals, +1, 23 PIMs. Say what you want that he is not productive in some games, but he has been over the course of 24 games, many in which is was pushed to the 4th line.

This year he is the type of player that you want to see over the long haul IMO. He chips in offensively, doesn't hesitate to help a teammate and doesn't take "Hartnell" type penalties.

The Flyers suck, let some young guys play.

The team is so bad a guy that play 6 games is still tied for #2 on your team in goals. LoL

- flyers2001


They need Rosehill in the lineup. He gives great mssages during intermission.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Nov 8 @ 10:23 AM ET
wow so Barkan just said take the C away from G and maybe you can give it to someone like Simmonds of Vinny. Ok no offense to Simmonds but SIMMONDS? (frank)ing idiot
- nastyflyergirl


He is the TV version of Cataldi. Just an idiot trying to get the fans going.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:23 AM ET
[quote=johndewar]No one will hear you over the "Fire Holmgren" chant which will, no doubt, start around the opening faceoff!

FTFY
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:23 AM ET
you know what that can be a great motivator for some to rise to the occassion. Let the kids get a taste and see what they have to work on....to be honest i dont want bumholes with fragile psyches....the cream will always rise to the top.
- PhillaBully

Honeslty, I'm glad you're not making the decisions. And that's saying something, considering how well things are going for the decision makers we have right now.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:24 AM ET
Agreed. the media said he was ont he block so it's true.
- jmatchett383


I think you also have to make a logical assumption in there as well. Might be asking to much though. Edmonton needs Defense and Goalies. They have an embarassment of riches in young forwards.... Hall, Eberle, RNH, Gagner... and Yakupov. If they need to move someone from those players to address the needs they have, who is more likely? The guy that was just sat, and not signed to a friendly multi-year deal.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 8 @ 10:25 AM ET
Funny, McGinn has 24 games played in the NHL and has 6 goals, +1, 23 PIMs. Say what you want that he is not productive in some games, but he has been over the course of 24 games, many in which is was pushed to the 4th line.

This year he is the type of player that you want to see over the long haul IMO. He chips in offensively, doesn't hesitate to help a teammate and doesn't take "Hartnell" type penalties.

The Flyers suck, let some young guys play.

The team is so bad a guy that play 6 games is still tied for #2 on your team in goals. LoL

- flyers2001



its amazing that some of the veterans disappear over long stretches, make blatant mistakes and stop moving their feet game in and out and a kid like McGinn constantly gets sent down for an unever performance. it frustrates me so much.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:26 AM ET
Honeslty, I'm glad you're not making the decisions. And that's saying something, considering how well things are going for the decision makers we have right now.
- BulliesPhan87

why because i said let some of the young guys play? what did you think i meant bring up the phantoms for the next game?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:26 AM ET
You guys really sound like you want the team to get together and hug it out. F that. These are hockey players, not sensitive little boys who can't handle an insult.

No wonder our team is a joke.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:26 AM ET
You know what, I can't do this. It seems all logic and rational thought has been thrown out the door for dream trades and player damnation. I'll stop back in a week when perhaps a sense or reason has returned.
- jmatchett383

A lot of it is verbatim the complaints about Richie, Carts, et al during the low point of the 2009-10 season. Trade everybody, take the C away, these guys have no heart, bring up the whole AHL squad, etc.

Disclaimer: I am in no way claiming this team will have that kind of turn around. We don't even have a Michael Leighton waiting in the rafters.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 8 @ 10:26 AM ET
ugh, Barkann
- BulliesPhan87



He was taking take it away from G to help him but the very idea that he suggested Simmonds makes me just shake my head
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:27 AM ET
why because i said let some of the young guys play? what did you think i meant bring up the phantoms for the next game?
- PhillaBully

No, because your idea is bad.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:27 AM ET
Thats the problem w/management. Timonen isn't gonna play forever & neither was Pronger, even if he didn't get hurt. These young Dmen take 3-5 years to develop and thats on the quick end of the scale. There is no plan, no prospects in the pipeline. If they were trading Carter and Richards, they should've done a full rebuild, not this patchwork BS.
- flyguy12


But again, even if Pronger and Timonen do begin to fade, they still had Meszaros, Carle, and Coburn whom all looked like decent to above decent players... like they would be able to pick up the load... As we know now that didnt happen, but you couldn't have foreseen this.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:28 AM ET
You guys really sound like you want the team to get together and hug it out. F that. These are hockey players, not sensitive little boys who can't handle an insult.

No wonder our team is a joke.

- Flyersgod

exactly....Most people agree that the "your going to ruin their development" is (frank)ing nonesense
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 8 @ 10:29 AM ET
exactly....Most people agree that the "your going to ruing their development" is (frank)ing nonesense
- PhillaBully


No player in the AHL at this second has a clear chance of becoming a full time NHLer. I'm a Flyers fan, not a phantoms fan.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:30 AM ET
No, because your idea is bad.
- BulliesPhan87

and your insane for wanting to stay the course...
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Nov 8 @ 10:30 AM ET
The "No, means no!!" chants that follow him wherever he goes are priceless.
- Tomahawk


Actually, if I remember correctly it was statutory rape he was convicted of. He was late teens 19 or possible early 20’s and the girl was 17. It wasn’t that she wasn’t a willing participant it was that she was under age.

Not justifying it, but it wasn’t forcible rape.

Correction: She was 15, he was 17.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:31 AM ET
question....on the devils first goal read was playing right wing and was down below the face off dot,maybe even at teeh bottom of the circle, watching the devil behind our net with the puck, leaving the left point WIDE open.whoever had the puck for teh devils saw this an djust wrapped the puck up the boards to the point who shot it, it was tipped and 1 zip.

is read suppossed to be down that low? theres no way he can get out to his point to block that shot or take the shootng lane away..
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 8 @ 10:31 AM ET
Season ticket prices will be cheaper I think.... Sorry that's all I got unless you want me to point out the fatal flaws and moronic decisions by the front office...
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:31 AM ET
No player in the AHL at this second has a clear chance of becoming a full time NHLer. I'm a Flyers fan, not a phantoms fan.
- Flyersgod


some (cousins/Mcginn/raffl) are third liners....but your right they have not top 6 or top four in the ahl
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 8 @ 10:31 AM ET
Here's a thought
They are NOT making the playoffs this year no matter what moves they make so I would rather see them do the following:

1. Fire Holmgren, replace with Hextall. Time for a new man at the helm

2. Wait til the deadline to move as many vets as possible, that is when you will get the most for them.

3. At the end of the season, hire Dave Poulin as head coach with Terry Murray as associate coach, the only assistant coach they should keep is Lappy. Offer Berube the head coaching spot in Allentown, this mess is not his fault.

4. Do NOT trade picks and young prospects, realize that it will take a couple of years to fix this mess and the way to do it is to build through the draft. It would be foolish to give up boatloads of high picks, young players, and top prospects to get 28-31 year old top pair dmen. HAVE PATIENCE!


flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 8 @ 10:31 AM ET
They need Rosehill in the lineup. He gives great mssages during intermission.
- Flyersgod


Can't be worse than Giroux. They have comparable numbers this year.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 8 @ 10:31 AM ET
and your insane for wanting to stay the course...
- PhillaBully

Well, I didn't say what I'd do, but thanks for playing!
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:32 AM ET
Well, I didn't say what I'd do, but thanks for playing!
- BulliesPhan87


exactly if you dont offer a counter argument you might as well just shut up.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
It really isn't mental. As a whole, the lineup they iced tonight is simply too slow, with and without the puck, to win hockey games at this level.

It's not an insult or indictment to anyone. But there's no mental block in place. The team simply isn't good enough to win. You can mitigate some of that with good coaching and if we had heavy doses of skill in a few more spots on the roster, but we don't.

Somebody's got to pick first overall, second overall, so on and so forth. We're just that team right now.

- AllInForFlyers


It blows me away to see a team just turn to poop in what I thought was going to be a good year with the three new addtions. The stats on guys like Giroux, Hartnell, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn to name a few are hard to believe. In the last 40 or so games they have all totally lost their game. I wish I knew the answer but the future is not looking too good. I managed to trade Giroux for E. Staal in my keeper pool and got a late pick for Hartnell. I hated to do it but I just could not watch my star player 28 do nothing. Staal is not doing much either but at least his team is winning.
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