Simmonds is big, tough, he had a good scrap against Wilson from the Caps, and he's got an offensive upside. That's what the oilers need!!!!
- LeftCoaster

Every team wants a guy like Simmonds.

Maybe but not Ebs straight up .
- hallwillcrushu

As mentioned, massage it. Sure Eberle is more skilled offensively, but Simmonds brings important things to the table that can't be measured on the points sheet. You can't just look at stats. How's that workin out for MacT?

Thy know they can pass the puck, right?
- Yeti1181

When have they been allowed to start doing that?

Every team wants a guy like Simmonds.
- Ben37

Every team wants a guy like Eberle.

Every team wants a guy like Simmonds.
- Ben37

No doubt, Edmonton could use a guy like that big time. But at the expense of talent like Eberle? I say no.

That would be a horrible trade for them unless the Flyers added. Eberle can make a line go, Simmonds needs someone to get him going. Just my 2 cents.
- Nucker101

Maybe that's why they've got 8 points? Because Eberle has everyone going?

As mentioned, massage it. Sure Eberle is more skilled offensively, but Simmonds brings important things to the table that can't be measured on the points sheet. You can't just look at stats. How's that workin out for MacT?
- LeftCoaster

Umm yea I know . But hey it ain't going to happen its not in our favor

When have they been allowed to start doing that?

- nated81

They adopted the rule last year. They can even pass forward.

Every team wants a guy like Eberle.
- MaximumBone

Agreed, but you need a mix of different type of players to make it work. Oilers don't have that.

Maybe that's why they've got 8 points? Because Eberle has everyone going?
- LeftCoaster

Just saying, they would be better off giving up other assets to give Eberle a guy like that to play on the opposite wing, instead of moving Eberle himself.

Agreed, but you need a mix of different type of players to make it work. Oilers don't have that.
- LeftCoaster

Never disagreed with you, but value-wise Eberle is worth more than Simmonds. As such, for a deal like that to work, Philly would need to add. However, because the only other player of real interest to the Oilers would be Coburn (one of their top Dmen), the Oilers would also need to provide a reasonable replacement (hence Smid).

We need a horse like salo

They adopted the rule last year. They can even pass forward.
- Yeti1181

(frank) me silly, someone tell them already. That's gotta be why they have lost so much this year.

Every team wants a guy like Eberle.
- MaximumBone

Most teams have a high end offensive guy. Not a lot of teams have a guy who hits, fights, and scores at the rate that Simmonds does.

Look, Eberle is my favorite Oiler. But if the Flyers ask Eberle for Simmonds you think long and hard about it.

At what point does the league steepen the penalty on knee-on-knee hits (regardless of intent)? That's now 3 in recent memory on 3 of the Oilers' best players (Hall, Nuge, and Petry) and I'm sure there have been a good number of others throughout the league. If they're really intent of improving safety, it's about time they made punishments for knee-on-knee hits as harsh as for headshots.

Never disagreed with you, but value-wise Eberle is worth more than Simmonds. As such, for a deal like that to work, Philly would need to add. However, because the only other player of real interest to the Oilers would be Coburn (one of their top Dmen), the Oilers would also need to provide a reasonable replacement (hence Smid).
- MaximumBone

I'm sure most Flyers fans would be very happy with Simmonds + Coburn for Eberle + depth D-Man , I could be wrong though.

Never disagreed with you, but value-wise Eberle is worth more than Simmonds. As such, for a deal like that to work, Philly would need to add. However, because the only other player of real interest to the Oilers would be Coburn (one of their top Dmen), the Oilers would also need to provide a reasonable replacement (hence Smid).
- MaximumBone

There's another guy who plays for Philly I would take so Ebs and a third for Simmonds and Mr beard haha

Most teams have a high end offensive guy. Not a lot of teams have a guy who hits, fights, and scores at the rate that Simmonds does.

Look, Eberle is my favorite Oiler. But if the Flyers ask Eberle for Simmonds you think long and hard about it.
- Ben37

You certainly think about it, but the value isn't right. Overall, Eberle is an upgrade on Simmonds, wouldn't you say?

I'm sure most Flyers fans would be very happy with Simmonds + Coburn for Eberle + depth D-Man , I could be wrong though.
- Nucker101

now that's a trade that would help both teams out

HALL!

Taylor Hall is GOD

You certainly think about it, but the value isn't right. Overall, Eberle is an upgrade on Simmonds, wouldn't you say?
- MaximumBone

Yes and no. There's two, or more, sides to that. Eberle is an upgrade offensively, Simmonds is an upgrade physically while still having offensive abilities.

now only if he could stay healthy

What's the score

Yes and no. There's two, or more, sides to that. Eberle is an upgrade offensively, Simmonds is an upgrade physically while still having offensive abilities.
- LeftCoaster

I guess it's your opinion, but if you were to go around the league, I'm certain you'd be hard-pressed to find many people who'd take Simmonds over Eberle. Also keep in mind that Philly is looking for high-end skill and offense just as much as Edmonton is looking for physicality and toughness. So we're back to straight up value.