They mention that Giroux is now an 8 mil guy who is the guy we look to to get us out of this downward spiral.
- Hextall271

Except that G is still playing under his last contract...

Im gong to say something ive never said but I would rather watch the commercials during the Oregon vs Stanford game tonight than watch the Flyers/Devs game. Im going to watch because its in my DNA and its what I do but DAMN!!!
- KINGKENZO

I think the reason the older crowd (if they haven't given up after the 1994-95, 2004-05, or 2012-13 lockouts) can withstand this is because they saw what 1967-1972 looked like.

- funmaster18

You know, I hate seeing them this bad.. Hate it. However, I will never give up on them.. I also will never cheer for them to lose.. even for the sake of a better pick when they are out of it.. (see last year).. I guess it's just against my makeup. I really hope that they can find a way to get back to respectability this year...

I always try to go with... well Mason looks like our #1 guy going forward.

Except that G is still playing under his last contract...
- Tomahawk

I was going to submit that nitpick, but the point does still hold: The Flyers have made the commitment to Giroux as the keystone to this team. They really are relying on him to be a catalyst for success, regardless of when the big contract actually starts.

William H Macy would eat PSH for lunch and poop him out before dinner.

BTW I love Shameless.
- youarewrong

I like PSH, but William H. Macy gets my Hall of Fame vote for the work he did in "Boogie Nights".

This explains everything.....
- Giroux_Is_God

maybe


don't worry about it

Lets see how much people really like this team.... And be honest with yourself. Would you be for, or against the idea of the NHL redrafting all players, and Hextall would be the GM drafting for the Flyers. So next years team would not have any of these guys....

Except that G is still playing under his last contract...
- Tomahawk

Maybe because of the mere fact that he has signed it going forward...I think that's what they are suggesting...

Has Flyers management ever addressed how they see Couturier's and B. Schenn's future?

With the signing of Vinny (which I think was a good move, btw), you have the top two centre spots locked in for the next 5 years.

Sure, you can always switch guys to the wing - but I'm just wondering if the question was asked of Holmgren when he signed Vinny?
- Atomic Wedgie

because neither schenn nor cooter can pick up the slack required to take the next step in the nhl
giroux has also shown this year he cannot carry the team so vinny was needed

Yes, but to be fair this isn't a new insight.

The Devils have been under-spending them for decades and basically eating the Flyers lunch in the process.

Just as in the broken education system in this country, money isn't the answer.
- Scoob

Easy...some of us are teachers!

I was going to submit that nitpick, but the point does still hold: The Flyers have made the commitment to Giroux as the keystone to this team. They really are relying on him to be a catalyst for success, regardless of when the big contract actually starts.
- BulliesPhan87

Not a nitpick..I am glad someone clarified.. I didn't have time to confirm it.. I think your second sentence is where they were headed with the comment..

My answer is: Donald Sutherland.

They need a "Best Performance of 5 Minutes or Less" Academy Award.

Sutherland in Backdraft - oh boy, still gives me the creeps.
- Atomic Wedgie

Please keep the thread on topic. BB25 might yell at you.

Lets see how much people really like this team.... And be honest with yourself. Would you be for, or against the idea of the NHL redrafting all players, and Hextall would be the GM drafting for the Flyers. So next years team would not have any of these guys....
- youarewrong

Um, no.

But... would I love an expansion draft that would give them an opportunity to leave guys like Hartsy, Streit dangling in the wind? You betcha.

Um, no.

But... would I love an expansion draft that would give them an opportunity to leave guys like Hartsy, Streit dangling in the wind? You betcha.
- Tomahawk

You act as if the Hartnell and Streit contracts are albatrosses. Or is the plural of albatross, albatri?

because neither schenn nor cooter can pick up the slack required to take the next step in the nhl
giroux has also shown this year he cannot carry the team so vinny was needed
- 2Real

This from the guy who said other unsubstantiated claims about JVR, such as that JVR was faking injuries to avoid a trade.

Um, no.

But... would I love an expansion draft that would give them an opportunity to leave guys like Hartsy, Streit dangling in the wind? You betcha.
- Tomahawk

Yay to two more teams and 20 more guys who should be in the AHL making the NHL!!!

I was going to submit that nitpick, but the point does still hold: The Flyers have made the commitment to Giroux as the keystone to this team. They really are relying on him to be a catalyst for success, regardless of when the big contract actually starts.
- BulliesPhan87

They started relying on him to be a catalyst for success when they decided to dump Richie and Carts... and gave him the 'C'... the extension has symbolic significance, but reality is that this was his team long before ink hit paper.

Sorry, didn't mean to pick on you. I'll watch my tone.

Ok, I think I need to hit the kill switch on these puns.
- BulliesPhan87

Dang, I was just getting amped up.

Lets see how much people really like this team.... And be honest with yourself. Would you be for, or against the idea of the NHL redrafting all players, and Hextall would be the GM drafting for the Flyers. So next years team would not have any of these guys....
- youarewrong

i'm a real flyers can so i can live with them rebuilding the team through draft and sucking for a few years

Dang, I was just getting amped up.
- Scoob

Play on, Scoob. I like your feedback.

Easy...some of us are teachers!
- aantny88

And I aspire to be one in my second career (in the not too distant future).

Anyway, if you're a good teacher you're okay in my book.

i'm a real flyers can so i can live with them rebuilding the team through draft and sucking for a few years
- 2Real

shots fired

i'm a real flyers can so i can live with them rebuilding the team through draft and sucking for a few years
- 2Real

"live with" ???

We'll get to read such treats as "this team really sucks" and "I'm gonna watch a real team like the Sharks" for those "few years."

i'm a real flyers can so i can live with them rebuilding the team through draft and sucking for a few years
- 2Real

I would definitely be fine with this if it ended up being the plan by the mid point of this year, but I don't think Snider would accept it. That's why it's hard to get hopes up that they'll correct their mistakes, because at this point in his life Snider has no patience.

Has Flyers management ever addressed how they see Couturier's and B. Schenn's future?

With the signing of Vinny (which I think was a good move, btw), you have the top two centre spots locked in for the next 5 years.

Sure, you can always switch guys to the wing - but I'm just wondering if the question was asked of Holmgren when he signed Vinny?
- Atomic Wedgie

I think the idea was to let Vinny move to wing once coots was ready for 2C duties. Either that or swap them if Vinny's play declines due to age.