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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
JVR, and Kulemin to center?

LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Nov 6 @ 2:56 PM ET
JVR, and Kulemin to center?
- Feeling Glucky?

I would give McKegg a try, said it a couple of times, give him a taste.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 6 @ 2:57 PM ET
I would give McKegg a try, said it a couple of times, give him a taste.
- LeafMan


i'm with you on this.. there is a couple game cushion to see if he can cut it at this point
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 6 @ 2:58 PM ET
I would give McKegg a try, said it a couple of times, give him a taste.
- LeafMan

Put McKegg between Kuli and Clarkson. McCLement with Lupul and Raymond. Kadri with JVR and Kessel.
kevvinB
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Air Canada Centre, ON
Joined: 06.22.2010

Nov 6 @ 2:59 PM ET
Uhm, Coots is 20...
- peddy-93


And showing no signs of development.

His offensive totals have declined every season so far.

His plus minus has declined every season so far (Important for a 2-way forward who's not contributing offensively)

He's likely going to be a third line center in the NHL.

Kind of like Bozak, Bolland, McClement and probably Gauthier in another few years.

He wouldn't help this team other then now, because of injuries.

Just because he's basically 21 and plays center, doesn't mean he's what we need.

MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Nov 6 @ 3:00 PM ET
heres what needs to happen: hire someone to injure all of chicagos goaltenders so that we can trade them a package including reimer for toews.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 6 @ 3:00 PM ET
i'm with you on this.. there is a couple game cushion to see if he can cut it at this point
- Dozzer



Exactly, we can all step away from the panic button for now.... But keep it close.
Colin Dambrauskas
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 6 @ 3:00 PM ET
well, the other one is a bit silly.
- Barx


Cant please everyone!
Colin Dambrauskas
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 6 @ 3:01 PM ET
i'm with you on this.. there is a couple game cushion to see if he can cut it at this point
- Dozzer


Im starting to get the impression that McKegg doesnt even get called upon...
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 6 @ 3:02 PM ET
Cant please everyone!
- Colin_Dambrauskas



Have you gone Swiss. Neutral, No Avatar, No Team... I am Swiss, I make no allegiance..
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 6 @ 3:04 PM ET
And showing no signs of development.

His offensive totals have declined every season so far.

His plus minus has declined every season so far (Important for a 2-way forward who's not contributing offensively)

He's likely going to be a third line center in the NHL.

Kind of like Bozak, Bolland, McClement and probably Gauthier in another few years.

He wouldn't help this team other then now, because of injuries.

Just because he's basically 21 and plays center, doesn't mean he's what we need.

- kevvinB


He had a stud year when Philly made the playoffs and shut down Malkin in the playoffs while putting up points.

Yeah his numbers have declined the past 2 years, but guess what? So has everyone elses on that team, even Giroux. So his numbers are declining because his teams play is declining.

Coots sounds a lot like a player Philly used to have that we traded for, his named seems to slip my tongue, but heard he's a heck of a player now.

Have to look at other intangibles.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Nov 6 @ 3:04 PM ET
Have you gone Swiss. Neutral, No Avatar, No Team... I am Swiss, I make no allegiance..
- bixll


Haha, sorry....I have two blogging accounts
leafan89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.01.2009

Nov 6 @ 3:04 PM ET
I realize this could seem a bit optimistic, but if Philly is looking to blow things up, why not make a huge push for Giroux?
We would have to overpay, but he's a top 5 guy in the league stuck on a team going nowhere.
It would take a ridiculous package as I said, but it would be worth it IMO.
Something like: Gardiner Reimer Kadri 2014 1st for Giroux Mason and a 3rd

I wouldn't be surprised if Philly took that deal, although I'd expect it to be closer to the deadline.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 6 @ 3:05 PM ET
Im starting to get the impression that McKegg doesnt even get called upon...
- Colin_Dambrauskas


marlies are weak at C too.. that could be why
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 6 @ 3:05 PM ET
I realize this could seem a bit optimistic, but if Philly is looking to blow things up, why not make a huge push for Giroux?
We would have to overpay, but he's a top 5 guy in the league stuck on a team going nowhere.
It would take a ridiculous package as I said, but it would be worth it IMO.
Something like: Gardiner Reimer Kadri 2014 1st for Giroux Mason and a 3rd

I wouldn't be surprised if Philly took that deal, although I'd expect it to be closer to the deadline.

- leafan89

I would make that trade ten times over.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Nov 6 @ 3:07 PM ET
marlies are weak at C too.. that could be why
- Dozzer

Yeah but it is a system to bring players up when needed as well as developmental. A couple of games won't hurt, makes him want it more later.
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Nov 6 @ 3:09 PM ET
I was really looking forward to Bolland getting to chirp the Bruins about the Stanley Cup GWG. Now come Saturday, all we are going to hear about is the 3rd period collapse ad nauseam.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
Yeah but it is a system to bring players up when needed as well as developmental. A couple of games won't hurt, makes him want it more later.
- LeafMan


yeah i agree. the marlies needs are secondary to the parent club
kevvinB
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Air Canada Centre, ON
Joined: 06.22.2010

Nov 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
He had a stud year when Philly made the playoffs and shut down Malkin in the playoffs while putting up points.

Yeah his numbers have declined the past 2 years, but guess what? So has everyone elses on that team, even Giroux. So his numbers are declining because his teams play is declining.

Coots sounds a lot like a player Philly used to have that we traded for, his named seems to slip my tongue, but heard he's a heck of a player now.

Have to look at other intangibles.

- peddy-93


Once again, proving he's destined to be a shutdown third line center (not what we need).

Blaming his team for his lack of production is also foolish, perhaps one of the reasons why the team is struggling so much is because they NEED more then 3 assists and no goals in 14 games from this guy.

Lastly the fact that you think Couturier and JVR are similar players just proves you don't actually watch flyers games and are therefore unable see the massive difference in their play style's.
jnwood2517
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.27.2009

Nov 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
I realize this could seem a bit optimistic, but if Philly is looking to blow things up, why not make a huge push for Giroux?
We would have to overpay, but he's a top 5 guy in the league stuck on a team going nowhere.
It would take a ridiculous package as I said, but it would be worth it IMO.
Something like: Gardiner Reimer Kadri 2014 1st for Giroux Mason and a 3rd

I wouldn't be surprised if Philly took that deal, although I'd expect it to be closer to the deadline.

- leafan89

Yes please
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
I realize this could seem a bit optimistic, but if Philly is looking to blow things up, why not make a huge push for Giroux?
We would have to overpay, but he's a top 5 guy in the league stuck on a team going nowhere.
It would take a ridiculous package as I said, but it would be worth it IMO.
Something like: Gardiner Reimer Kadri 2014 1st for Giroux Mason and a 3rd

I wouldn't be surprised if Philly took that deal, although I'd expect it to be closer to the deadline.

- leafan89



would mean around 23 million for Kessel, Giroux and Phaneuf. Pittsburg might be the only team with 3 players that make more...but then you get crosby.

Gardiner Reimer Kadri 2014 1st is steep... tough call
jnwood2517
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.27.2009

Nov 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
Schenn and Schenn for Gardiner and Liles (and maybe a 2nd)
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

Nov 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
Schenn and Schenn for Gardiner and Liles (and maybe a 2nd)
- jnwood2517

wtf would Philly do that....
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
Exactly, we can all step away from the panic button for now.... But keep it close.
- bixll


yeah dont panic til they lose 2 in a row
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
Once again, proving he's destined to be a shutdown third line center (not what we need).

Blaming his team for his lack of production is also foolish, perhaps one of the reasons why the team is struggling so much is because they NEED more then 3 assists and no goals in 14 games from this guy.

Lastly the fact that you think Couturier and JVR are similar players just proves you don't actually watch flyers games and are therefore unable see the massive difference in their play style's.

- kevvinB



Yeah because it's so hard to notice they have two different playing styles.

I follow a lot of prospects and have seen Coots since his junior days so I think I'd know a thing or two about him.

I'm referring to JVR as an example of a player struggling on a team and excelling on another. Just because Coots has struggled the last 2 years as the whole team as doesn't mean he's going to be a 3rd line centre. Heck, I'm sure you thought of JVR and Kadri the exact same when they struggled and now you love them.

And if you're blaming the ENTIRE Flyers team struggles because Coots has 3 assists you're utterly foolish.
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