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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 5 @ 3:44 PM ET
The fact you found the picture is hilarious. I think Nabby plays well tonight. Usually does on an extra day rest or two
- Isles316


the fact there's a pick of Capuano actually pulling him is amazing in itself. He should never have played the second period of the Ottawa game...or the third..

Capuano never makes a change mid game saying he wants to keep the other goalie fresh for the next game..essentially conceding the game in progress. Pisses me off.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Nov 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
the fact there's a pick of Capuano actually pulling him is amazing in itself. He should never have played the second period of the Ottawa game...or the third..

Capuano never makes a change mid game saying he wants to keep the other goalie fresh for the next game..essentially conceding the game in progress. Pisses me off.

- Isles_since_6


VERY TRUE.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Nov 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
The fact you found the picture is hilarious. I think Nabby plays well tonight. Usually does on an extra day rest or two
- Isles316


We'll see. I think Ovechkin poses a big problem in Nabby struggles with players that shoot high glove and Ovie has a damn fine snapshot. I'm guaran-damn-teeing at least one for #8 tonight.
Hopefully JT and Vanek are ready to make some noise.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Nov 5 @ 4:03 PM ET
We'll see. I think Ovechkin poses a big problem in Nabby struggles with players that shoot high glove and Ovie has a damn fine snapshot. I'm guaran-damn-teeing at least one for #8 tonight.
Hopefully JT and Vanek are ready to make some noise.

- keaner17



hmmm...put something on the line....if not than??
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Nov 5 @ 4:13 PM ET
hmmm...put something on the line....if not than??
- LetsGoIsles

He must stick up for A Mac the rest of the year and talk about how great he is for shutting down Ovi.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
VERY TRUE.
- keaner17

amazing isn't it? Capuano would rather risk having a goalie not on his game allow more goals and lose the game, than risk tiring out his backup who's played 3 games so far this year.

Poulin must be in terrible shape if an extra period or two would wear him right out.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Nov 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
He must stick up for A Mac the rest of the year and talk about how great he is for shutting down Ovi.
- mighty13duck





i like!!!!! regardless of how blatantly obvious it is that amac is not very good...i like a lot!!
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
The fact you found the picture is hilarious. I think Nabby plays well tonight. Usually does on an extra day rest or two
- Isles316



nabby should play well tonight. he does play well rested.

Im more upset that Poulin going to get shelved till our next back to back game. ANnoying. way to build confidence Crappy.
dack1972
New York Islanders
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.13.2007

Nov 5 @ 4:23 PM ET
Poulin played well last game but, I found he flopped and was out of position on many occasions. I think Boston didn't capitalized on their opportunities...missed a few open nets. I just don't see Poulin as a number 1 goalie. That was the only decent start he's had in two years.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 5 @ 4:31 PM ET
Cappy doesnt pull goalie ever. we were fortunate to win against OTT.

Isles need to get Halak.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Nov 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
Poulin played well last game but, I found he flopped and was out of position on many occasions. I think Boston didn't capitalized on their opportunities...missed a few open nets. I just don't see Poulin as a number 1 goalie. That was the only decent start he's had in two years.
- dack1972



agreed...poulin looked better than previous starts but boston missed TONS of chances... TONS!!!
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 5 @ 4:35 PM ET
Poulin played well last game but, I found he flopped and was out of position on many occasions. I think Boston didn't capitalized on their opportunities...missed a few open nets. I just don't see Poulin as a number 1 goalie. That was the only decent start he's had in two years.
- dack1972


how many games did he get last year? 6? 3 again this year, one where he was completely hung out to dry?

last year's defense was just as bad as this one and down the stretch he only got into 2 games I believe, neither of which he looked great all the way through, but he's extremely young for a goaltender. He was better in the playoffs than Nabby (granted he came in when the game was out of reach twice)

I actually felt a lot more comfortable with him in net than Nabby. That Boston game I thought he covered the angles well, had good rebound control and was able to find the puck through traffic when I couldn't see how he could have seen it. Our defense wasn't great, but was reasonable, but he played well. I feel with Nabby unless he gets 5-6 shots in the first few minutes of the game then his attention wanders and he lets in softies. So if the team plays well and takes it to the opponent, we get bent over when they get their first couple shots halfway through the first period and he lets a weak one in.

Remember in Ottawa after the 4th sens goal we were outshooting them something like 43 to 15...and losing 4-2.

I'd rather go with the kid who has room to get better, than continue to overplay the guy who's close to 40 and stops paying attention every 4th to 5th game.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Nov 5 @ 4:36 PM ET
He must stick up for A Mac the rest of the year and talk about how great he is for shutting down Ovi.
- mighty13duck


No chance!
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Nov 5 @ 4:38 PM ET
hmmm...put something on the line....if not than??
- LetsGoIsles

If he doesn't score I'll put AMAC on my avatar for a week.
of course this only works if someone bets against me and offers the same...
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Nov 5 @ 4:38 PM ET
agreed...poulin looked better than previous starts but boston missed TONS of chances... TONS!!!
- LetsGoIsles

nobody counts 'misses'. Afterall, few teams miss the net as much as we do
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Nov 5 @ 4:43 PM ET
Poulin played well last game but, I found he flopped and was out of position on many occasions. I think Boston didn't capitalized on their opportunities...missed a few open nets. I just don't see Poulin as a number 1 goalie. That was the only decent start he's had in two years.
- dack1972


Flopping is the most OVERUSED term on this board when it comes to goalies. He admittingly lacked composure early on, but I'd stress that is more due to rust and lack of game action. This has happened with him over his last several starts and he typically reels it in and becomes more positionally sound as time goes on. In most cases, 'flopping' can be just as much of a result of terrible defense as nervous goaltending. Considering we have the earlier of those two, it's tough to pin it all on Poulin. The guy is frantically diving around trying to track pucks through the crease. In that case, flop away.
As for "I just don't see Poulin as a number 1 goalie. "
Of course you don't. You haven't seen him even given a chance to be a number one goalie. You can't close the book on any goaltender who's only seen 22 games over 4 years. It's laughable for anyone to draw a conclusion on him one way or the other at this point. He has the raw skills to be a very good NHL goaltender. The stuff he lacks are typically things that come with experience.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 5 @ 4:46 PM ET
nobody counts 'misses'. Afterall, few teams miss the net as much as we do
- keaner17

what did we have against ottawa, 90 shot attempts? 57 on net? I agree with you

what I saw from Poulin was a guy who was focused, controlled his rebounds, good reflexes and played extremely well. From Nabby it varies minute by minute in his games, he'll make an unbelievable save (not with the glove) and then let in an absolute stinker.

This team is one of only 3 to score at least 2 goals in every game and we're only 1 game above NHL 500. That's due to lack of defense and shoddy goaltending, and if we hung the blame on Poulin for the Philly game I can point to 3 defensemen who handed the flyers easy goals in that one.

Nabby on the other hand has a worse save percentage and higher goals against average than a kid who allowed 5 goals to the flyers, then had to play the Bruins and defending cup champs in Chicago.

Can't give up on Poulin yet, once he's had a chance to play 30-40 games in a season (hell, how about 20?) we'll have a better look at him, but he looks much better this year than last year.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Nov 5 @ 4:47 PM ET
Cappy doesnt pull goalie ever. we were fortunate to win against OTT.

Isles need to get Halak.

- Spartiarti

I think the train left the station on that one...Halak is doing great for St. Loius...
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Nov 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
nobody counts 'misses'. Afterall, few teams miss the net as much as we do
- keaner17



Jim Corsi would like to see you in his office....
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Nov 5 @ 4:57 PM ET
what did we have against ottawa, 90 shot attempts? 57 on net? I agree with you

what I saw from Poulin was a guy who was focused, controlled his rebounds, good reflexes and played extremely well. From Nabby it varies minute by minute in his games, he'll make an unbelievable save (not with the glove) and then let in an absolute stinker.

This team is one of only 3 to score at least 2 goals in every game and we're only 1 game above NHL 500. That's due to lack of defense and shoddy goaltending, and if we hung the blame on Poulin for the Philly game I can point to 3 defensemen who handed the flyers easy goals in that one.

Nabby on the other hand has a worse save percentage and higher goals against average than a kid who allowed 5 goals to the flyers, then had to play the Bruins and defending cup champs in Chicago.

Can't give up on Poulin yet, once he's had a chance to play 30-40 games in a season (hell, how about 20?) we'll have a better look at him, but he looks much better this year than last year.

- Isles_since_6


Exactly. It's ridiculous to make judgements on a goaltender who has never played more than 10 NHL games in a season. For my money, over the last 5 games or so that I've seen him, he's looked much more impressive than Nabby. The rebound control and positional recovery will get better with each and every start. It's like putting a rookie in to pinch hit three times in a year and saying he'll never be a cleanup hitter based on what you saw in those 3ABs. The guy has to adjust to the speed, gain confidence, realize where his limitations are and then learn to play within himself.
I'm not saying Poulin is the answer, I actually think Nilsson could be the better of the two, and Mikko may be better than both, but we've got three guys who are 23-24 years of age and not one of them has been given a chance to prove themself at this level yet.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Nov 5 @ 4:59 PM ET
Jim Corsi would like to see you in his office....
- LetsGoIsles

The Buffalo Sabers goaltending coach? Sheesh, I didn't think my coaching career had been noticed much!
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Nov 5 @ 5:00 PM ET
Exactly. It's ridiculous to make judgements on a goaltender who has never played more than 10 NHL games in a season. For my money, over the last 5 games or so that I've seen him, he's looked much more impressive than Nabby. The rebound control and positional recovery will get better with each and every start. It's like putting a rookie in to pinch hit three times in a year and saying he'll never be a cleanup hitter based on what you saw in those 3ABs. The guy has to adjust to the speed, gain confidence, realize where his limitations are and then learn to play within himself.
I'm not saying Poulin is the answer, I actually think Nilsson could be the better of the two, and Mikko may be better than both, but we've got three guys who are 23-24 years of age and not one of them has been given a chance to prove themself at this level yet.

- keaner17



I stand by my opinion of Poulin, I didn't think he was a NHL starting goalie when he was in bport and I still feel that. I'd love to be wrong though
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Nov 5 @ 5:01 PM ET
The Buffalo Sabers goaltending coach? Sheesh, I didn't think my coaching career had been noticed much!
- keaner17



yes him...and the creator of Corsi
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 5 @ 5:40 PM ET
Flopping is the most OVERUSED term on this board when it comes to goalies. He admittingly lacked composure early on, but I'd stress that is more due to rust and lack of game action. This has happened with him over his last several starts and he typically reels it in and becomes more positionally sound as time goes on. In most cases, 'flopping' can be just as much of a result of terrible defense as nervous goaltending. Considering we have the earlier of those two, it's tough to pin it all on Poulin. The guy is frantically diving around trying to track pucks through the crease. In that case, flop away.
As for "I just don't see Poulin as a number 1 goalie. "
Of course you don't. You haven't seen him even given a chance to be a number one goalie. You can't close the book on any goaltender who's only seen 22 games over 4 years. It's laughable for anyone to draw a conclusion on him one way or the other at this point. He has the raw skills to be a very good NHL goaltender. The stuff he lacks are typically things that come with experience.

- keaner17


I cannot believe we still have to bring up the same points about Poulin. When has he been given a real chance to be the #1? I must have missed it. I do not know if Poulin can be the #1. I'd sure like to find out and playing 22 games in 4 years is not finding out.
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Nov 5 @ 5:43 PM ET
Poulin played well last game but, I found he flopped and was out of position on many occasions. I think Boston didn't capitalized on their opportunities...missed a few open nets. I just don't see Poulin as a number 1 goalie. That was the only decent start he's had in two years.
- dack1972


100% agree
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