Grabner to Toronto for Franson....
- kear20

I'd hate to lose Grabs but if this is how we're going to use him......
At some point, good players become casualties simply because their skillset or style of play doesn't match the 'team vision'. I find it sad that Cappy can't find a better combination for Grabner's speed.

Clutterbuck's penalty was dumb. And that line in general has been borderline useless for a long time. None of the three can really play their game. Clutterbuck would be most useful with the other crashers on the fourth line. Grabner's most useful when there's someone who can actually get him the puck, and Regin is most useful observing the game from the press box.
- UIF

fun fact-- before last nights game, of all the forwards on the team, peter regin had the best corsiREL

I'd hate to lose Grabs but if this is how we're going to use him......
At some point, good players become casualties simply because their skillset or style of play doesn't match the 'team vision'. I find it sad that Cappy can't find a better combination for Grabner's speed.
- keaner17

it's interesting that cappy complains about the second line's offense, when it was clicking with grabner in bouchard's spot earlier this year and has tailed off without him, at the same time he's been unable to produce in the third line spot.

Just like the goaltending, Capuano stays with a losing formula until it's well past the expiry date.

I don't know I don't think Nabby played as bad as everyone is saying. The defense was non existant last night and your goalie is just as good as your defense. I hope Poulin becomes the goalie here but his problem is he flops all over the place and needs to relax.

All in all a horrible game for the team in general. First line looked good but the second line was did not exist last night. there was no heart.

My 2 cents... Snow has to make a move for a D-man. He might have to give up a Reinhardt and/or Pullock to get it done. The issue he has to grasp is yes during the rebuild you don't want to trade guys away that you need/want in future (and as long time Islander fans we apreciated that thought process), but now the issue is you have a very good young core of kids on the team. If you continue to blow games with shtty goaltending and sub par defense .. those core kids will move on by the time a Reinhardt and Pullock are ready to play on this team anyway. the Moulson trade was his "rebuild over" statement... he needs to follow that up with a big trade.. or he needs to be canned.

The Forwards in general are not the issue... BUt.. to me PMB is a non event and has literally put the second line to sleep. He needs to go and Grabner who has also gone to sleep should be on that second line with Bailey and Nielsen. Regin hasn't done a lot.. but he isn't killing them out there either.. When McDonald is back.. PMB should sit.. or at least get sent to 3rd line. ... Brock might need to spend more time in AHL b/c he has also been a non event.

Defense... Amac has taken a huge stop backwards this year. How does a bad shift/ breakaway happen on a Penalty kill?? Why is he on the PP.. and with 2 guys screening the goalie why isn't he shooting...etc. etc. etc. I have defended him and still think he can be an OK 3/4 d-man but he is really killing me.

Carkner must not play that many minutes... ever.

Nabby Sux

Nice to see Newsday finally gave the Islanders the full back page.

fun fact-- before last nights game, of all the forwards on the team, peter regin had the best corsiREL
- LetsGoIsles

He does not strike me as the problem by any means.. .isn't the answer either..

He does not strike me as the problem by any means.. .isn't the answer either..
- niteislander

I think Regin has been decent for us to be honest.

fun fact-- before last nights game, of all the forwards on the team, peter regin had the best corsiREL
- LetsGoIsles

That's probably why I don't have much use for advanced stats. They're interesting and all, but sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees when you dig too deeply into a number and don't use your eyes. The guy has been completely unspectacular. Neither Grabner nor Clutterbuck has benefitted at all from having him as their center, and neither did any other wingers that have played with him...well...if I'm going to be completely fair, I have to concede that Nelson looked better on the third line than he has on the fourth.

fun fact-- before last nights game, of all the forwards on the team, peter regin had the best corsiREL
- LetsGoIsles

testament to the lack of relevance of corsi ratings...

That's probably why I don't have much use for advanced stats. They're interesting and all, but sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees when you dig too deeply into a number and don't use your eyes. The guy has been completely unspectacular. Neither Grabner nor Clutterbuck has benefitted at all from having him as their center, and neither did any other wingers that have played with him...well...if I'm going to be completely fair, I have to concede that Nelson looked better on the third line than he has on the fourth.
- UIF

You should know by bow that we bury our up and coming rookies to the fourth line

I don't know I don't think Nabby played as bad as everyone is saying. The defense was non existant last night and your goalie is just as good as your defense. I hope Poulin becomes the goalie here but his problem is he flops all over the place and needs to relax.

All in all a horrible game for the team in general. First line looked good but the second line was did not exist last night. there was no heart.
- kasperrko

Rick DiPeitro just kicked his monitor in

I think Regin has been decent for us to be honest.
- kasperrko

Okay...Kasper's account has been hacked!

fun fact-- before last nights game, of all the forwards on the team, peter regin had the best corsiREL
- LetsGoIsles

Helps when you play with Grabner

Rick DiPeitro just kicked his monitor in
- keaner17

It is true though if your defense is giving up odd man breaks, or diving in front of you, or coughing up the puck. It will be a long day at the office for any goaltender

Okay...Kasper's account has been hacked!
- keaner17

Seriously though he has not been horrendous. I actually miss Colin Mcdonlad

I don't know I don't think Nabby played as bad as everyone is saying. The defense was non existant last night and your goalie is just as good as your defense. I hope Poulin becomes the goalie here but his problem is he flops all over the place and needs to relax.

All in all a horrible game for the team in general. First line looked good but the second line was did not exist last night. there was no heart.
- kasperrko

I disagree and I'll tell you why - you have a young team with a fairly below average defense core, which is a problem yes. The issue is that when the goalie lets in a soft goal, the team starts trying to compensate which means they start trying to take away every shot, which means they chase people out of position and get caught, essentially trying to do too much.

That first goal was a decent shot, but I still think Nabby should have had it. The second goal he absolutely should have had, and from there it went to crap.

I knew from the first 3 shots against that this game was going to potentially turn ugly very fast. Nabby had those first three shots against and looked surprised the puck hit him on two of them. That is not confidence, that is not seeing the puck well and that is not focused.

No focus = soft goals, which = fragile team confidence shattered, which = defense running around out of position trying to take away shots that they should be fine to let their goalie handle, except their goalie isn't handling anything.

It is true though if your defense is giving up odd man breaks, or diving in front of you, or coughing up the puck. It will be a long day at the office for any goaltender
- kasperrko

Oh I totally agree. I'd suggest though that you consider this when talking about Kevin Poulin's flopping. Goalies typically end up flopping because there's too much chaos in the crease area.
A couple of years ago Marty Brodeur was off to a terrible start and folks were wondering what was wrong with him and why he was flopping around. well, their defense looked like crap at the time, Marty was being forced to flip and flop to compensate for the defenses inability to clear loose pucks in the slot.
We've had a lot of our goaltenders flop over the last several years, because our defense has been physically dominated in front of our own net. Hell, Nabby was flopping around like crazy last night.

Oh I totally agree. I'd suggest though that you consider this when talking about Kevin Poulin's flopping. Goalies typically end up flopping because there's too much chaos in the crease area.
A couple of years ago Marty Brodeur was off to a terrible start and folks were wondering what was wrong with him and why he was flopping around. well, their defense looked like crap at the time, Marty was being forced to flip and flop to compensate for the defenses inability to clear loose pucks in the slot.
We've had a lot of our goaltenders flop over the last several years, because our defense has been physically dominated in front of our own net. Hell, Nabby was flopping around like crazy last night.
- keaner17

Poulin just seems to flop no matter what. I am not confident in him. His defense played amazing in his last start and that gave him the win. Bottom line is GArth has to address defense and goaltending quick if this team is to succeed

I disagree and I'll tell you why - you have a young team with a fairly below average defense core, which is a problem yes. The issue is that when the goalie lets in a soft goal, the team starts trying to compensate which means they start trying to take away every shot, which means they chase people out of position and get caught, essentially trying to do too much.

That first goal was a decent shot, but I still think Nabby should have had it. The second goal he absolutely should have had, and from there it went to crap.

I knew from the first 3 shots against that this game was going to potentially turn ugly very fast. Nabby had those first three shots against and looked surprised the puck hit him on two of them. That is not confidence, that is not seeing the puck well and that is not focused.

No focus = soft goals, which = fragile team confidence shattered, which = defense running around out of position trying to take away shots that they should be fine to let their goalie handle, except their goalie isn't handling anything.
- Isles_since_6

I understand that but he was playing awesome and making great saves in the first period. It was not until the Islanders gave the puck away and Karlsson skated right in and took the shot and scored that things went backwards. It is a team effort. I can not blame NAbby for that at all. Even the third goal defense should have played the body and not the puck. If they did that the puck never would have been in

testament to the lack of relevance of corsi ratings...
- keaner17

its been proven that there is direct correlation between corsi and winning percentage.

its been proven that there is direct correlation between corsi and winning percentage.
- LetsGoIsles

By that rationale, we'd win more with a team full of Regins? I disagree...

By that rationale, we'd win more with a team that possesses the puck more than the opposition? i disagree...
- UIF

fixed...and yes

Nice to see Newsday finally gave the Islanders the full back page.
- PeteM

That's because Dolan doesn't want the poopty Knicks on the back page of his paper.

Poulin just seems to flop no matter what. I am not confident in him. His defense played amazing in his last start and that gave him the win. Bottom line is GArth has to address defense and goaltending quick if this team is to succeed
- kasperrko

Poulin would have had a shutout had Nielsen not knocked the puck in his own net. He was damn sharp