From what I've been reading Del Zotto's risky play doesn't come with enough reward for his team. As I said and as did "way out west" sounds like he's basically been a third pairing PP specialist that needs to be sheltered with easy minutes to be effective. I don't see him suddenly or even gradually taking 2 huge steps to get to Hoff's level.
- Nucker101

He has 8 yrs. I wouldn't call that suddenly. Ehrhoff was pretty one dimensional when he got here was well

It's getting worse and worse. My latest count, going into tonight's games:

Central - 28 games above 500
PAC - 26 games above 500
atlantic - 1 game above 500
metro - 9 games BELOW 500


- AlexF

West>>East

And the hilarious thing is that the East took 2 Western playoff teams from last year(DET, CBJ) and the West got Winnipeg.

MDZ, Dorset, Zucc and Brassard for booth, Setisto and Edler. Its coming
- Bieksa#3

Only if Scooby doesn't convince everyone to vote against it...

From what I've been reading Del Zotto's risky play doesn't come with enough reward for his team. As I said and as did "way out west" sounds like he's basically been a third pairing PP specialist that needs to be sheltered with easy minutes to be effective. I don't see him suddenly or even gradually taking 2 huge steps to get to Hoff's level.
- Nucker101

MA Bergeron Part 2?

It's getting worse and worse. My latest count, going into tonight's games:

Central - 28 games above 500
PAC - 26 games above 500
atlantic - 1 game above 500
metro - 9 games BELOW 500


- AlexF

So the west is 54 games above and the east is 8 below ????

The rangers PP is way better under AV , But thats not hard after Torts . it got worst every year under him and Sullivan . He's trying to get the dmen to jump up in the play more but don't think he has the horses to play that way . Their break out is better to . I just don't think they have the players to play AV style . Could be wrong thou , and I've been wrong plenty of times in my 59 years .
- way out west

AVs biggest problem is he has such a device between his favs and guys he doesn't like. Pyatt is one of AVs boys

Only if Scooby doesn't convince everyone to vote against it...
- Fosco

I don't like the veto.

If guys are foolish enough to listen to him the so be it.

He has 8 yrs. I wouldn't call that suddenly. Ehrhoff was pretty one dimensional when he got here was well
- Bieksa#3

He was a much better puck possession player in SJ than Del Zotto currently is. If Del Zotto still doesn't show much improvement next year on a potential new team then I doubt he's ever going to come close to Hoff. Ehrhoff was a very good top 4 defensemen before he was 28/29.

I had squid for breakfast, I'm half orca. Now death to Victoria!

- AlexF

Maybe if booth can play center ? Leafs need a center ... CBC leafs ....

MA Bergeron Part 2?
- AlexF

Not that bad IMO. I'd say halfway in between MAB and Hoff.

West>>East

And the hilarious thing is that the East took 2 Western playoff teams from last year(DET, CBJ) and the West got Winnipeg.
- Nucker101

Clb wasn't a playoff team

As a young player, AV will casterate him for mistakes. You know Edler had and still has some of thatt
- Bieksa#3

Torts also does the same with young players that try and take short cuts . MDZ , Krieder were sent down a few time and he cut up Hags pretty good to the press . You guys seem to forget some of the young guys who came in under AV . poop now I'm defending AV !!

I don't like the veto.

If guys are foolish enough to listen to him the so be it.
- Bieksa#3

Scooby owns 10 teams in the pool and has 10 aliases on this site.

Clb wasn't a playoff team
- Bieksa#3

My bad, 9th place though right? Still funny.

He was a much better puck possession player in SJ than Del Zotto currently is. If Del Zotto still doesn't show much improvement next year on a potential new team then I doubt he's ever going to come close to Hoff. Ehrhoff was a very good top 4 defensemen before he was 28/29.
- Nucker101

How many guys are even good enough to plat defese in the bigs at 19 yrs old? I think your forgetting how young MDZ is

My bad, 9th place though right? Still funny.
- Nucker101

I could be wrong but 10th I believe. Clb is a team on the rise though

West has 5 of the last 7 cups. Both East cup wins were in 7 games

How many guys are even good enough to plat defese in the bigs at 19 yrs old? I think your forgetting how young MDZ is
- Bieksa#3

I realize how young he is, but he's played 262 regular season games at the NHL level as well so you'd think by now he'd be able to show some significant improvement or at least be pushing for top 4 minutes, not barely making the lineup and being sat out.

I realize how young he is, but he's played 262 regular season games at the NHL level as well so you'd think by now he'd be able to show some significant improvement or at least be pushing for top 4 minutes, not barely making the lineup and being sat out.
- Nucker101

He's also played very little(10 games?) At the ahl level. And he has sat out of the line up very little

I had squid for breakfast, I'm half orca. Now death to Victoria!
- AdamFrench

I could be wrong but 10th I believe. Clb is a team on the rise though

West has 5 of the last 7 cups. Both East cup wins were in 7 games
- Bieksa#3

I just checked, they were tied for 8th with Minny, but lost the tiebreaker. Yeah, I did't buy those that are fans of Eastern teams that were saying this summer that both conferences were fairly even but I didn't think it would be this uneven early either.

At least we won't have to here that "Canucks are playing in a weak division" argument anymore.

Also prepares the team better for the playoffs IMO.

I had squid for breakfast, I'm half orca. Now death to Victoria!
- AdamFrench

I'd like to see Smith get run over again when he's out of his crease.

I could have flown my family down to Phoenix, stayed for a week, took in this game and spent less than I did on Saturday

He's also played very little(10 games?) At the ahl level. And he has sat out of the line up very little
- Bieksa#3

We'll just have to see then, but I say he ends up being a #4 defensemen at best, meanwhile Ehrhoff is a top 50 defensemen in the NHL for sure IMO.

I could have flown my family down to Phoenix, stayed for a week, took in this game and spent less than I did on Saturday
- LeftCoaster