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MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:27 PM ET
I hear Giroux's on steroids.
- jmatchett383


Needs to rage.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:28 PM ET
I hear Giroux's on steroids.
- jmatchett383

He should demand a refund
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:29 PM ET
Agree with that assessment, I just think that Gus can better fit in for Kimmo to move the puck, that having Grossman out of the line up for anyone else...I think Coburn and grossman have been our best Defensemen, Schenn , next then it is has been a pretty big drop off and you could swap any of our guys in to see how they fit...that is my take on bringing Alt...I agree there would be some risk in that, but he is much further along in his development then say Morin...i see Alt as being a Read type player...he has been playing a while, he is not an 18 year old head case...he is 22, and played a full tour in college, so he has a bit more experience than a 2/3 year junior player...

Just saying it should be considered since the team can't play worse...

- JW98FlyerFan


The problem is, Alt is likely no where near ready for the NHL yet. Spot him in a game or two, fine, but there's zero harm in letting him play big minutes in the AHL right now.

The Flyers are too aggressive with these kids, let them grow slowly. Part of the reason Detroit finds guys in later rounds is they let them stay in the AHL for years and are usually fully ready to step in.

The Flyers bring a guy like JvR along quickly, then get pissed when he's not consistent and ship him off.

Gustafsson and Schenn...well the future is now for them. They can't go back to the AHL, so the might as well play.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:30 PM ET
One was Gardiner/Reimer/1st.
- MunsterMike


For me to even consider, it would have to be JVR, Reily, and 2 firsts.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:33 PM ET
The problem is, Alt is likely no where near ready for the NHL yet. Spot him in a game or two, fine, but there's zero harm in letting him play big minutes in the AHL right now.

The Flyers are too aggressive with these kids, let them grow slowly. Part of the reason Detroit finds guys in later rounds is they let them stay in the AHL for years and are usually fully ready to step in.

The Flyers bring a guy like JvR along quickly, then get pissed when he's not consistent and ship him off.

Gustafsson and Schenn...well the future is now for them. They can't go back to the AHL, so the might as well play.

- Jsaquella


It's not as if Alt was tearing up the AHL and he was bashing down the Flyers' door with his play. I don't understand the premise of bringing him up "just because".
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:34 PM ET
For me to even consider, it would have to be JVR, Reily, and 2 firsts.
- youarewrong


I don't think it should be considered at all.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:35 PM ET
I don't think it should be considered at all.
- MunsterMike

Amen!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:37 PM ET
I don't think it should be considered at all.
- MunsterMike


Depends if your doing a true rebuild. Look what Kessel brought Boston. A Cup. Seriously though you get a top line winger, A future top line defenseman.... one that would look great next to Morin and 2 firsts to go with 2 deep drafts coming up.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Nov 4 @ 2:40 PM ET
The problem is, Alt is likely no where near ready for the NHL yet. Spot him in a game or two, fine, but there's zero harm in letting him play big minutes in the AHL right now.

The Flyers are too aggressive with these kids, let them grow slowly. Part of the reason Detroit finds guys in later rounds is they let them stay in the AHL for years and are usually fully ready to step in.

The Flyers bring a guy like JvR along quickly, then get pissed when he's not consistent and ship him off.

Gustafsson and Schenn...well the future is now for them. They can't go back to the AHL, so the might as well play.

- Jsaquella


Fair enough, I assume you are writing this season off too? I have (I will still watch every game I can, but my expectations are set...)

I guess I am torn watching slow and steady (best plan as you state) and the big moves homer may try to pull off when we really don't know what Alt or some of the other Phantoms can do and the real issues are not being addressed, i.e. sitting gus and Schenn, but not Kimmo...kimmo will be gone this year and Shenn and Gus won't...so who should sit and who should get the game minutes to work out the issues in learning Chief's system...
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:41 PM ET
Depends if your doing a true rebuild. Look what Kessel brought Boston. A Cup. Seriously though you get a top line winger, A future top line defenseman.... one that would look great next to Morin and 2 firsts to go with 2 deep drafts coming up.
- youarewrong


Kessel was not the face of that franchise nor was he their best player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:41 PM ET
Depends if your doing a true rebuild. Look what Kessel brought Boston. A Cup. Seriously though you get a top line winger, A future top line defenseman.... one that would look great next to Morin and 2 firsts to go with 2 deep drafts coming up.
- youarewrong


Kessel wasn't Boston's centerpiece. It's tempting, but I'll say no.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
Flyers need to draft this kid....

http://www.ncsasports.org...num-school/tommy-mason-jr
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:45 PM ET
Depends if your doing a true rebuild. Look what Kessel brought Boston. A Cup. Seriously though you get a top line winger, A future top line defenseman.... one that would look great next to Morin and 2 firsts to go with 2 deep drafts coming up.
- youarewrong


I see what you are saying. But Claude is only 25, so he's young enough to rebuild around, we know what he is capable of.

I'm going to step out there and say that he isn't the 2nd coming of the collapsing of Heatley/Cheechoo.
Ferrarimn7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.09.2008

Nov 4 @ 2:47 PM ET
Got anything specific?
- johndewar


Ask the bartenders and security at Xfinity or Irish Pub @ 20th & Walnut.

I don't want this coming back to me and end up getting manhunted by Homer.

They're just chasing tail every night, like EVERY night. Like i said....tough to blame them, but you get like 6 months of every year off, lets see some focus you clowns.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
Ask the bartenders and security at Xfinity or Irish Pub @ 20th & Walnut.

I don't want this coming back to me and end up getting manhunted by Homer.

They're just chasing tail every night, like EVERY night. Like i said....tough to blame them, but you get like 6 months of every year off, lets see some focus you clowns.

- Ferrarimn7


Young rich athletes trying to have sex with beautiful women? Now you're being ridiculous.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:50 PM ET
Flyers need to draft this kid....

http://www.ncsasports.org...num-school/tommy-mason-jr

- youarewrong

Why? Is that your nephew or something?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:51 PM ET
Ask the bartenders and security at Xfinity or Irish Pub @ 20th & Walnut.

I don't want this coming back to me and end up getting manhunted by Homer.

They're just chasing tail every night, like EVERY night. Like i said....tough to blame them, but you get like 6 months of every year off, lets see some focus you clowns.

- Ferrarimn7

Mountains have been made of these molehills before. Not an issue.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
Why? Is that your nephew or something?
- mayorofangrytown


Cousin.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
Ask the bartenders and security at Xfinity or Irish Pub @ 20th & Walnut.

I don't want this coming back to me and end up getting manhunted by Homer.

They're just chasing tail every night, like EVERY night. Like i said....tough to blame them, but you get like 6 months of every year off, lets see some focus you clowns.

- Ferrarimn7


Well, so much for Giroux needing to be more "relaxed".
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:57 PM ET
Well, so much for Giroux needing to be more "relaxed".
- johndewar


-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Nov 4 @ 3:00 PM ET
Ask the bartenders and security at Xfinity or Irish Pub @ 20th & Walnut.

I don't want this coming back to me and end up getting manhunted by Homer.

They're just chasing tail every night, like EVERY night. Like i said....tough to blame them, but you get like 6 months of every year off, lets see some focus you clowns.

- Ferrarimn7



right there on the other side of the parking lot and mgmt doesn't know about it? odd
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
Fair enough, I assume you are writing this season off too? I have (I will still watch every game I can, but my expectations are set...)

I guess I am torn watching slow and steady (best plan as you state) and the big moves homer may try to pull off when we really don't know what Alt or some of the other Phantoms can do and the real issues are not being addressed, i.e. sitting gus and Schenn, but not Kimmo...kimmo will be gone this year and Shenn and Gus won't...so who should sit and who should get the game minutes to work out the issues in learning Chief's system...

- JW98FlyerFan

Not writing this year off as much as I am saying not to rush guys just because the team is struggling.

I think Alt is probably a couple years away. Konan is a fringe guy, Lauridsen probably a. 6th defenseman..I have much higher hopes for Morin, Hagg, Ghostisbehere & Alt than Lauridsen & Konan
Ferrarimn7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.09.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
Young rich athletes trying to have sex with beautiful women? Now you're being ridiculous.
- jmatchett383

Young rich atheletes eschew the work ethic and talent that got them rich and laid in the first place?
Let me know how long that cycle stays positive. Ohhh right, we're dead last in the conference with no goals out of a guy who is promised 8.25 for the foreseeable future. You're right. I'm being silly..........
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 3:04 PM ET
Depends if your doing a true rebuild. Look what Kessel brought Boston. A Cup. Seriously though you get a top line winger, A future top line defenseman.... one that would look great next to Morin and 2 firsts to go with 2 deep drafts coming up.
- youarewrong


Seguin won boston the cup?
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Nov 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
Flyers need to draft this kid....

http://www.ncsasports.org...num-school/tommy-mason-jr

- youarewrong



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