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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 4 @ 1:50 PM ET
He might not...but so far, Streit hasn't made one either.
- Jsaquella



This.

Worst part is, this is the best we're ever going to see from Streit. By the second-half of his contract, we'll be begging for the 2013-14 version of Kimmo back.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 4 @ 1:50 PM ET
Waiting isn't necesarily the best thing, but when you are too aggressive and end up bidding against yourself, it's not good...and it happens to the Flyers too often.
- Jsaquella

No doubt. I do think a lot of people take advantage of retrospect to bang the "Holmgren is inept" drum unfairly, but this front office has willingly put itself in bad negotiating positions in recent years. Some of that falls on the owner, some on the GM, but either way it's not great for business.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
Just think of Ron Jeremy in there with her eating a hoagie and it should be the last thing on your mind.
- jmatchett383



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 1:52 PM ET
No doubt. I do think a lot of people take advantage of retrospect to bang the "Holmgren is inept" drum unfairly, but this front office has willingly put itself in bad negotiating positions in recent years. Some of that falls on the owner, some on the GM, but either way it's not great for business.
- BulliesPhan87


I prefer it to a team that does nothing but wait, but sometimes it's not good to be the gunslinger, rushing in.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
His back up had a good one, too

Eddie Lack ‏@eddielack 2 Nov

About all the Ray Emery questions, no I wouldn't stand a chance. #runforrestrun

- Jsaquella

Thanks. I don't follow him.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:02 PM ET
Again, the biggest issue the Flyers face on defense is moving the puck up the ice. Grossmann is less adept at it than Timonen. Both have warts and neither has played especially well...Grossmann's shot totals may well be inflated due to his being a poor possession player, which hurts the offensive output.

I'm not defending Timonen. I think he's been horrible. But I don't feel Grossmann has been some stalwart that they can't do without, either.

- Jsaquella



Funny enough Grossmann's stats are better than Timonen's
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 4 @ 2:09 PM ET
Word from Ek is that Flyers front office are looking for some decisive wins against some cupcakes coming up or else major changes are on the way
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
Funny enough Grossmann's stats are better than Timonen's
- nastyflyergirl


Timonen has been worse than any of them. That's obvious. The Flyers aren't going to scratch him.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Would have been funny if Holtby just used the goal as a barrier and Emery had to chase him around it in circles.
- jmatchett383



you mean Domi him?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Funny enough Grossmann's stats are better than Timonen's
- nastyflyergirl


They are...but as bad as Timonen's been, he's still a better possession player than Grossmann...and that's where the issue lies for me.

My basic point is, I'd rather see Gustafsson and Schenn playing. I'd have no issue at all if that meant Timonen and Grossmann were sitting.
Ferrarimn7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.09.2008

Nov 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Do you know this first hand?
- johndewar

I do.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
Giroux for Voynov. Debate.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
I do.
- Ferrarimn7


Got anything specific?
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
Hilarious goings on over in the Augello Leafs blog comments regarding trading for Giroux.

My eyes are on fire.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
Word from Ek is that Flyers front office are looking for some decisive wins against some cupcakes coming up or else major changes are on the way
- Just5

Pretty obvoius. They aren't paying these forwards what theure paying them to win 1-0 games.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
Hilarious goings on over in the Augello Leafs blog comments regarding trading for Giroux.

My eyes are on fire.

- MunsterMike


JvR, Gardiner, Bernier, and 2 1sts? Okay, deal.
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
JvR, Gardiner, Bernier, and 2 1sts? Okay, deal.
- jmatchett383


Not anywhere near that much.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
Not anywhere near that much.
- MunsterMike


Ohh let me guess...Kulemin, Reimer and a 1st?
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Nov 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
They are...but as bad as Timonen's been, he's still a better possession player than Grossmann...and that's where the issue lies for me.

My basic point is, I'd rather see Gustafsson and Schenn playing. I'd have no issue at all if that meant Timonen and Grossmann were sitting.

- Jsaquella


Agree with that assessment, I just think that Gus can better fit in for Kimmo to move the puck, that having Grossman out of the line up for anyone else...I think Coburn and grossman have been our best Defensemen, Schenn , next then it is has been a pretty big drop off and you could swap any of our guys in to see how they fit...that is my take on bringing Alt...I agree there would be some risk in that, but he is much further along in his development then say Morin...i see Alt as being a Read type player...he has been playing a while, he is not an 18 year old head case...he is 22, and played a full tour in college, so he has a bit more experience than a 2/3 year junior player...

Just saying it should be considered since the team can't play worse...
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
Word from Ek is that Flyers front office are looking for some decisive wins against some cupcakes coming up or else major changes are on the way
- Just5


He's really going out on a limb there... I hope he has a safety net.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Not anywhere near that much.
- MunsterMike


Then no deal.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Hilarious goings on over in the Augello Leafs blog comments regarding trading for Giroux.

My eyes are on fire.

- MunsterMike

I like how one poster called Giroux the "self proclaimed best player in the world". I mean, who cares if it was Laviolette that made that comment? Giroux's so full of himself!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:25 PM ET
I like how one poster called Giroux the "self proclaimed best player in the world". I mean, who cares if it was Laviolette that made that comment? Giroux's so full of himself!
- BulliesPhan87


I hear Giroux's on steroids.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:26 PM ET
Word from Ek is that Flyers front office are looking for some decisive wins against some cupcakes coming up or else major changes are on the way
- Just5


If a team needs their GM to come down between periods and rip them (as he did on Friday), I think it's safe to say the GM is gonna make some moves.
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:27 PM ET
Ohh let me guess...Kulemin, Reimer and a 1st?
- Jsaquella


One was Gardiner/Reimer/1st.
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