Pominville has 10 goals so far.
- sippyd

If we had him we'd be in 25th place, not 30th.

If we had him we'd be in 29th place, not 30th.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Fixed

Pominville has 10 goals so far.
- sippyd

I miss Pommers.

much to learn 541.00
homiedclown

22nd overall

I miss Pommers.
- BuffaloHardHat

I miss the lockout

much to learn 541.00
homiedclown

22nd overall
- homiedclown

Cabin Fever 564.00 The Suck 510
cabin

Leave him in Rochester the rest of the year, he needs to change his game from being a board runner and learn the game again.
- stashu

The only answer for Kaleta is a lobotomy.

The only answer for Kaleta is a lobotomy.
- tpd11

Wow what a highly thought up reply

I honestly don't think Ott is going any where. Specially with UFA status. He says he likes the team.
- cabin

Cabin, I disagree as Ott is going to say the right things about what's going on here, he has also said there have been no contract talks going on. It was reported last year Buffalo received calls at the deadline about Ott. I could see Ott, Miller, Ehrhoff and Stafford (if anyone even wants him) being gone by the deadline. Can't see Myers going as I think they haven't given up on him yet plus his contract doesn't make him a worthy acquistion. Ehrhoff was paid upfront and his 4 mil cap hit makes him more desirable a candidate to be traded.

Cabin, I disagree as Ott is going to say the right things about what's going on here, he has also said there have been no contract talks going on. It was reported last year Buffalo received calls at the deadline about Ott. I could see Ott, Miller, Ehrhoff and Stafford (if anyone even wants him) being gone by the deadline. Can't see Myers going as I think they haven't given up on him yet plus his contract doesn't make him a worthy acquistion. Ehrhoff was paid upfront and his 4 mil cap hit makes him more desirable a candidate to be traded.
- Leninthebuff

Miller will absolutely be traded, even if it is for a draft pick. A team can subsidize up to three salaries on another team in a given year and we have only used two. Also, we can take back a garbage contract as we have plenty of space.

The only answer for Kaleta is a lobotomy.
- tpd11

I'm not a Kaleta fan and never have been but you should post less, what a stupid F$$KIN comment.

SO how are all those great rookies doing that Darcy drafted?

Boy they are real game changers aren't they........

Cabin, I disagree as Ott is going to say the right things about what's going on here, he has also said there have been no contract talks going on. It was reported last year Buffalo received calls at the deadline about Ott. I could see Ott, Miller, Ehrhoff and Stafford (if anyone even wants him) being gone by the deadline. Can't see Myers going as I think they haven't given up on him yet plus his contract doesn't make him a worthy acquistion. Ehrhoff was paid upfront and his 4 mil cap hit makes him more desirable a candidate to be traded.
- Leninthebuff

Here's why Ehrhoff most likely won't be traded:

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...racts-153717517--nhl.html

He's signed until he turns 39. If they trade him and he retires at all before, the Sabres on the hook for a penalty of the full cap value. If they keep him, the penalty is less severe.

Cabin, I disagree as Ott is going to say the right things about what's going on here, he has also said there have been no contract talks going on. It was reported last year Buffalo received calls at the deadline about Ott. I could see Ott, Miller, Ehrhoff and Stafford (if anyone even wants him) being gone by the deadline. Can't see Myers going as I think they haven't given up on him yet plus his contract doesn't make him a worthy acquistion. Ehrhoff was paid upfront and his 4 mil cap hit makes him more desirable a candidate to be traded.
- Leninthebuff

I'm on the fence with Ott. I definitely think there's room for what he brings, but for all the leadership that he supposedly has, his teams haven't done much winning with him on their roster, Dallas or Buffalo.

I'm on the fence with Ott. I definitely think there's room for what he brings, but for all the leadership that he supposedly has, his teams haven't done much winning with him on their roster, Dallas or Buffalo.
- buffalofan19

The fact that he still has a positive attitude and a desire to improve makes him a leader in my mind.

The fact that he still has a positive attitude and a desire to improve makes him a leader in my mind.
- jaumiller

That's great, but eventually it has to translate to tangible results. Otherwise, it's meaningless.

I'm on the fence with Ott. I definitely think there's room for what he brings, but for all the leadership that he supposedly has, his teams haven't done much winning with him on their roster, Dallas or Buffalo.
- buffalofan19

You can't blame him for bad teams. That said, he's definitely gone. I also don't get the double standard that exists for guys like Ott. Kaletta pulls a bonehead move once or twice a season and pays the price. Game in and game out, he draws a ton of penalties. Ott has a bonehead move every game and often looks like a clown out there running around trying to goad people into fighting (especially in bad losses). I like him, but not at 4 mill a year (I'm guessing) on a rebuilding team.

You can't blame him for bad teams. That said, he's definitely gone. I also don't get the double standard that exists for guys like Ott. Kaletta pulls a bonehead move once or twice a season and pays the price. Game in and game out, he draws a ton of penalties. Ott has a bonehead move every game and often looks like a clown out there running around trying to goad people into fighting (especially in bad losses). I like him, but not at 4 mill a year (I'm guessing) on a rebuilding team.
- Slump Buster

I'm not necessarily going to blame him for "bad teams", but if what he brings is as valuable as people say it is, you would think the teams he has been on would be better than they are. The fact is, for the most part, the teams he's played key roles on have been atrocious than great. You can't completely absolve him from blame for that.

SO how are all those great rookies doing that Darcy drafted?

Boy they are real game changers aren't they........
- rapperray

Who said our picks are game changers? What online source could you provide that pegs anyone besides Grigoenko as game changers on an NHL team. The whole team is terrible but the rookies are not showing that they are going to be bad....

Foligno- Injured in the beginning of the season. Now centering a line of Ott+Tropp

Risto- Holding his own. Rookie mistakes at times

Zadorov- Holding his own. Rookie mistakes at times. Shows nice offensive flashes and can lower the boom

Flynn-3rd-4th line rookie? nothing more nothing less

Tropp- 3rd-4th line talent put on the 2nd line

Girgensons-On another all rookie line. His role with the team will be flushed out in time.

Pysyk- Has some mistakes but overall has been pretty solid considering our team

Larsson-Another all rookie line hes in the perfect spot once he develops

Grigorenko- Misused and abused since day one. Not allowed to be sent down. Players poop mins on the 4th line. Development will never come with john scott.

These "kids" have been as expected and some even better than thought with how horrible the makeup of the team is. They are surrounded by other young players and have been called upon to basically win games for this team.

IMO a few will make up a very solid base to build on especially if we draft a top end talent in the coming drafts. Its a process and your whining is shortsighted and stupid. Look at EDM if you want a bunch of young "game changers" with no solid depth or development for support.

Who said our picks are game changers? What online source could you provide that pegs anyone besides Grigoenko as game changers on an NHL team. The whole team is terrible but the rookies are not showing that they are going to be bad....

Foligno- Injured in the beginning of the season. Now centering a line of Ott+Tropp

Risto- Holding his own. Rookie mistakes at times

Zadorov- Holding his own. Rookie mistakes at times. Shows nice offensive flashes and can lower the boom

Flynn-3rd-4th line rookie? nothing more nothing less

Tropp- 3rd-4th line talent put on the 2nd line

Girgensons-On another all rookie line. His role with the team will be flushed out in time.

Pysyk- Has some mistakes but overall has been pretty solid considering our team

Larsson-Another all rookie line hes in the perfect spot once he develops

Grigorenko- Misused and abused since day one. Not allowed to be sent down. Players poop mins on the 4th line. Development will never come with john scott.

These "kids" have been as expected and some even better than thought with how horrible the makeup of the team is. They are surrounded by other young players and have been called upon to basically win games for this team.

IMO a few will make up a very solid base to build on especially if we draft a top end talent in the coming drafts. Its a process and your whining is shortsighted and stupid. Look at EDM if you want a bunch of young "game changers" with no solid depth or development for support.
- SiloCity

None of the forwards will ever qualify as anything more than borderline 2nd line players....... Defensemen holding their own will not improve things..... And the worst part of it all.... Not a player on this team, rookies included, has any GAME in them..... Still a team full of floaters who fail to compete in any game they play. Losing is understandable.... Playing with no life is not.....

EDIT: BY the way, many here believe this is a very bad draft coming up so all those draft picks are a waste.... By the way, take your name calling and shove it punk...

Ideally....if we draft someone like Reinhart and resign Moulson

Nobody currently playing on this roster should be in our top 3. I really would like to see Ennis/Leino/Staff moved or bought out.

We lack any top tier wingers without Vanek. Moulson is borderline. I like his chemistry so far with Cody. Armia is such a huge question mark and so is Grigorenko. Armia is a boom or bust prospect as he is here, I would think, for goal scoring and offers way less when hes not. I really really really like our depth. I think we have done an exceptional job in that respect.

If the current rookies can take a good step forward next season.
Regier trims the fat significantly (leino,staff,ennis)
We are able to draft Reinhart or Ekblad and maybe target a solid UFA for offensive help


Moulson-Reinhart-????
Ott-Hodgson-Armia
Girgensons-Larsson-Foligno
Tropp-???-Kaleta/Flynn

I really dont see us being a terrible team in the forward ranks.

Our D is questionable as most pairings so far have been pretty underwhelming. Chemistry is an issue.

IMO the biggest question mark is our goaltending if Miller leaves. We will be faced with the possibility of needing a tandem or relying on Enroth and hoping for the best.

SO how are all those great rookies doing that Darcy drafted?

Boy they are real game changers aren't they........
- rapperray

not arguing with you on the outcome of the games... but i think the coach that Darcy hired is a bigger issue than the players he drafted..

i know some people will never like cooke and i understand that. as a pens fan, i was alays concerned that he would put the team in a bad position whether it was short handed, momentum swings, etc. however, cooke was a fan favorite and changed his game. i do truly believe that. howeer, i think that he became held to a standard where it was another player, they may not have been called for a penalty.

I understood that the pens felt that his role could be filled by engelland or bortuzzo so they saved the salary for other players but i wish him the best. no noe coming out of MN so i am guessing that he is on course. Kaleta could do the same.

None of the forwards will ever qualify as anything more than borderline 2nd line players....... Defensemen holding their own will not improve things..... And the worst part of it all.... Not a player on this team, rookies included, has any GAME in them..... Still a team full of floaters who fail to compete in any game they play. Losing is understandable.... Playing with no life is not.....

EDIT: BY the way, many here believe this is a very bad draft coming up so all those draft picks are a waste.... By the way, take your name calling and shove it punk...
- rapperray

Who floats out of that list I included? The draft coming up is thin at best. The top 3-4 picks however are not. If the season plays out we will be looking at having a chance to take a very good prospect.

Development isn't seen in 15 games. Its the players who have been here longer that are more accountable when we question why the team is bad. This is the youngest team in the NHL and your wondering why we dont have game changers

Again go ask Edmonton how awesome it is to have top level talent and no depth. Or you could look at a team like Stl who has created a great overall level of depth and found game changers over the years (Backes, Steen, Pietrangelo)

i know some people will never like cooke and i understand that. as a pens fan, i was alays concerned that he would put the team in a bad position whether it was short handed, momentum swings, etc. however, cooke was a fan favorite and changed his game. i do truly believe that. howeer, i think that he became held to a standard where it was another player, they may not have been called for a penalty.

I understood that the pens felt that his role could be filled by engelland or bortuzzo so they saved the salary for other players but i wish him the best. no noe coming out of MN so i am guessing that he is on course. Kaleta could do the same.
- i'mjustafan

It has been said that Randy Cunneyworth was brought in to work specifically with Kaleta to improve his style of play. If thats true I have a great deal of hope this will happen. Randy is well respected around the league. If Patty can turn it around and be more of a overall contributor for Buffalo. Take him back with open arms. If not, there are no negatives besides the poor limelight he brought on the team for his suspension. But going forward it looks good.