I wouldn't even consider myers. He as absolutely terrible and the Sabres are paying him 6 mil per season
- Pillar

But Rundblad you would consider to be worth something??

Rundblad= Brennan until proven otherwise
Stafford= very little, someone like Rundblad.

Stafford needs a change. I don't care what anyone says he's not as bad as how he's playing here. Not saying he will pot 20-30 goals somewhere else but he's got too much to be what he is here
- sbroads24

If Stafford scores 20 goals for the rest of his career the Sabres should be happy....I think he eventually get bought out and ends up in the AHL with someone. HE is not a good hockey player. He is 9 goals in his last 80 games, and he gets paid to score. Since he got his contract he has been terrible outside of a 17 game stretch 2 years ago.

....being traded twice already and still hasn't cracked 3 NHL lineups is a good indicator for me on Rundblad. Back in Europe in a year or 2...count on it
- twistedwrister9

Probably next year, that's why I suggested taking a shot in the dark

But Rundblad you would consider to be worth something??
- sbroads24

I think Myers is a better plkayer then Runblad, but his contract makes him untradeable, unless you are getting someone like Ville Leino in return, but he is already on the Sabres, so maybe if Drew Stafford...oops, that wont work....If you are gonna trade Myers you are gonna have to take on some terrible contracts for salary cap reasons.

I am not doubting that Yak's could be had, but they would require much more in return, and I don't think the Sabres could make it happen without giving up there top players and high draft picks
- Pillar

More than a top 4 D a D prospect and probably the 31st pick in the draft? Yes he was a first round pick but had they taken Murray instead they wouldn't be hurting on the blue line so much and their record would be better IMO

Probably next year, that's why I suggested taking a shot in the dark
- sbroads24

Then why the hell are you trying to trade for him

Probably next year, that's why I suggested taking a shot in the dark
- sbroads24

I'm not disagreeing with you....he's got some talent no doubt or he wouldnt have gone 17th overall. So it would definitely be worth a shot to give him a bunch of ice time and see where it goes.

I think Myers is a better plkayer then Runblad, but his contract makes him untradeable, unless you are getting someone like Ville Leino in return, but he is already on the Sabres, so maybe if Drew Stafford...oops, that wont work....If you are gonna trade Myers you are gonna have to take on some terrible contracts for salary cap reasons.
- Pillar

LOL at Myers being untradeable.

More than a top 4 D a D prospect and probably the 31st pick in the draft? Yes he was a first round pick but had they taken Murray instead they wouldn't be hurting on the blue line so much and their record would be better IMO
- Stripes77

Agree on the Murray point, but I think the Market would get them much more then a journyman d-man, and AHL player and a 2nd round pick....I dont see the value in what was being offered...I think Edmonton would love Christian Ehroff...But the market for that type of player is probably a couple 2nd round picks. Mcnabb can;t crack the Sabres lineup, that should say enough a\bout him...

If Stafford scores 20 goals for the rest of his career the Sabres should be happy....I think he eventually get bought out and ends up in the AHL with someone. HE is not a good hockey player. He is 9 goals in his last 80 games, and he gets paid to score. Since he got his contract he has been terrible outside of a 17 game stretch 2 years ago.
- Pillar

He is a former 30 goal scorer. He needs a serious change. A mid tier prospect is about right for him. If he turns out to be Brad Boyes so be it. But some team will take a flier on him for low risk prospect

Then why the hell are you trying to trade for him
- Pillar

Because right about now wed take anything that appeared worth taking a chance on just to lose stafford off our roster.

No ones saying Rundblad doesn't have talent but there's got to be a reason he's on his third team and still can't find consistent NHL time.

Why they hell would it matter if our #1 goaltender was starting?.
- SiloCity

Why?
Because I think we all know that Ryan Miller will not be here next season.
Correct?
We are 2-12 right?
Why do we keep needing to start Ryan to get peppered with 40+ shots a night?
So he can get injured and we get nothing for him after he leaves this season?
When does this organization plan on seeing if Enroth is the answer for our future #1 and can endure being the #1?
And please don't tell me that we already know that Enroth isn't a #1 goaltender.
Why? How do you know this?
Are you the Sabres goaltending coach?
If you aren't then your opinion on whether Enroth is or is not our future #1 is completely useless to me.
Other players i'd like to see up here while we are bringing on the extreme suck anyway are Adam and Mcnabb for sure.
Time to find out once and for all about those 2 players as well.
If Darcy is still blackballing Brayden then Terry needs to handle that situation sooner rather than later.
We know what Stifford brings so why keep playing him in place of Adam?

LOL at Myers being untradeable.
- Smittyx36

Who would trade for MYers and his AWFUL contract...even if the Sabres picked up half his Salary for the next 6 years they would be over paying him...He is a terrible defensive player and does not score or get assists even though he plays on the PP....He is one of the worst players in th NHL imho...He had an awsome rookie year and it's been downhill ever since. Anyone who think s he is good does not watch the same games as I do..

Why?
Because I think we all know that Ryan Miller will not be here next season.
Correct?
We are 2-12 right?
Why do we keep needing to start Ryan to get peppered with 40+ shots a night?
So he can get injured and we get nothing for him after he leaves this season?
When does this organization plan on seeing if Enroth is the answer for our future #1 and can endure being the #1?
And please don't tell me that we already know that Enroth isn't a #1 goaltender.
Why? How do you know this?
Are you the Sabres goaltending coach?
If you aren't then your opinion on whether Enroth is or is not our future #1 is completely useless to me.
Other players i'd like to see up here while we are bringing on the extreme suck anyway are Adam and Mcnabb for sure.
Time to find out once and for all about those 2 players as well.
If Darcy is still blackballing Brayden then Terry needs to handle that situation sooner rather than later.
We know what Stifford brings so why keep playing him in place of Adam?
- BuffaloHardHat

They're already getting next to nothing for Ryan Miller. The market for goaltenders is very low as it is. It really doesn't matter how overworked he gets.

Because right about now wed take anything that appeared worth taking a chance on just to lose stafford off our roster.

No ones saying Rundblad doesn't have talent but there's got to be a reason he's on his third team and still can't find consistent NHL time.
- twistedwrister9

Exactly-trying to Lose Stafford! I am all for that, but I think other GM's can watch him play and come to their owen conclusion that he sucks!!! Which is what my origional point was

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/
- Pillar

preseason rankings bud

Agree on the Murray point, but I think the Market would get them much more then a journyman d-man, and AHL player and a 2nd round pick....I dont see the value in what was being offered...I think Edmonton would love Christian Ehroff...But the market for that type of player is probably a couple 2nd round picks. Mcnabb can;t crack the Sabres lineup, that should say enough a\bout him...
- Pillar

You also have to look at it from other GMs point of view. Who is going to give up a ton for someone who is struggling this year after one good short season. Who is also a flight risk to the KHL. No GM will give up a top 2 D that's not rebuilding

Why?
Because I think we all know that Ryan Miller will not be here next season.
Correct?
We are 2-12 right?
Why do we keep needing to start Ryan to get peppered with 40+ shots a night?
So he can get injured and we get nothing for him after he leaves this season?
When does this organization plan on seeing if Enroth is the answer for our future #1 and can endure being the #1?
And please don't tell me that we already know that Enroth isn't a #1 goaltender.
Why? How do you know this?
Are you the Sabres goaltending coach?
If you aren't then your opinion on whether Enroth is or is not our future #1 is completely useless to me.
Other players i'd like to see up here while we are bringing on the extreme suck anyway are Adam and Mcnabb for sure.
Time to find out once and for all about those 2 players as well.
If Darcy is still blackballing Brayden then Terry needs to handle that situation sooner rather than later.
We know what Stifford brings so why keep playing him in place of Adam?
- BuffaloHardHat

Your working off assumptions. Miller has and is our starting goaltender. You start him. You only need to look at Vancouver last year and the goaltender farce they created flip flopping and allegedly fielding offers for their netminders.

You also have to look at it from other GMs point of view. Who is going to give up a ton for someone who is struggling this year after one good short season. Who is also a flight risk to the KHL. No GM will give up a top 2 D that's not rebuilding
- Stripes77

Ok, well I would much rather have Runblad then Stafford....If the Yotes were willing to make that deal awsome...I would not make that trade....would you?

preseason rankings bud
- SiloCity

So after 10 games Yak's is no longer a TOP Prospect...How far did he fall? lol... Whatever floats your boat, but the OILERS will not trade him foir Ehr, Mcnab and a second

They're already getting next to nothing for Ryan Miller. The market for goaltenders is very low as it is. It really doesn't matter how overworked he gets.
- buffalofan19

Yea I don't argue that Miller is a great goaltender and could carry a bonafide cup contender to a championship but you got to be real with yourself. There just isn't a market and if there is it is low. Getting Cory Schneider for the 9th overall pick tells you that. He might not be quite as good as Miller but he is much younger has a few years remaining on his contract that is pretty damn reasonable for a guy of his talent. Then take into consideration that Miller is 33, is a ufa at the end of the year, has a 6 million dollar cap hit and has a list of 8 teams ? or is it 10 then he can pick to not be traded to. That makes it pretty damn hard for a gm to get fair value let alone robbing someone in a trade.

They're already getting next to nothing for Ryan Miller. The market for goaltenders is very low as it is. It really doesn't matter how overworked he gets.
- buffalofan19

Are you trying to tell me that if he gets injured it doesn't matter?
Which is inevitable with the way this team plays in front of him.
It will matter and will affect Ryan's trade value.
Who says the market is low?
The alleged experts?
Darcy is holding out on Miller. I am sure the offers have been adequate for him.
Me thinks Darcy is holding out to really make out on a deal that would send a lot of this fan bases favorite player and arguably the cornerstone of this franchise out the door.
Smart move by Darcy. If he fooks up this Ryan deal he can rest assured that he will be packing his office up at FNC also.
I am sure has gotten good offers for Ryan.
Just not the one where he says , I clearly won this deal.
If I were you, I would pay no mind to the alleged "experts" that report there is no market for goalies.
Ryan Millers do not grow on trees!

Yea I don't argue that Miller is a great goaltender and could carry a bonafide cup contender to a championship but you got to be real with yourself. There just isn't a market and if there is it is low. Getting Cory Schneider for the 9th overall pick tells you that. He might not be quite as good as Miller but he is much younger has a few years remaining on his contract that is pretty damn reasonable for a guy of his talent. Then take into consideration that Miller is 33, is a ufa at the end of the year, has a 6 million dollar cap hit and has a list of 8 teams ? or is it 10 then he can pick to not be traded to. That makes it pretty damn hard for a gm to get fair value let alone robbing someone in a trade.
- blizzzard

And even that, to me, was kind of a dumb trade to make.

Your working off assumptions. Miller has and is our starting goaltender. You start him. You only need to look at Vancouver last year and the goaltender farce they created flip flopping and allegedly fielding offers for their netminders.
- SiloCity

Did you even read my post?
Your answer does not even touch on my many questions.

And even that, to me, was kind of a dumb trade to make.
- buffalofan19

Not yet, depends if they go all in with his extension.