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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 2 @ 3:18 AM ET
See: page 2, about half way down....
- Giroux_Is_God

ive just gotten in. ive readas much as i ould from the past couple threads in the last couple minutes. m still kind of just settled at oh okay then....
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 2 @ 3:19 AM ET
See: page 2, about half way down....
- Giroux_Is_God



as ive said before, you guys are good people and i wouldnt attribute such a dumb comment as speaking for all of you guys. but wow. that one was prettty bad
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 2 @ 3:20 AM ET
ive just gotten in. ive readas much as i ould from the past couple threads in the last couple minutes. m still kind of just settled at oh okay then....
- stayinthefnnet

Nah man I'm talking about my disclaimer

EDIT: Just saw your next post.

I agree. It actually was embarrassing.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 2 @ 3:21 AM ET
Emery was just showing his frustration on several matters. He does not want to be a back up, he does not like the team in front of him when he does play, he does not like to lose and all of above triggered him. I love Ray Emery and old man Snyder should turn Emery loose on his teamates and beat them into showing up for games. Seriously Ray is a battler and very competitive and he just snapped. No suspension forthcoming but he will be on a short rope with Lord Shanahan.
- flyerdude17

totally agree with the thought process behind all of this. stilll. no need to be a scumbag to anohter organization.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 2 @ 3:21 AM ET
Nah man I'm talking about my disclaimer
- Giroux_Is_God

haha oh okay. allow me to go search again then.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 2 @ 3:32 AM ET
totally agree with the thought process behind all of this. stilll. no need to be a scumbag to anohter organization.
- stayinthefnnet



I agree i do not condone what Emery did, just saying the guy does have jam.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 2 @ 3:34 AM ET
I agree i do not condone what Emery did, just saying the guy does have jam.
- flyerdude17

jam jam. doest win games nor earn respect
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 2 @ 3:47 AM ET
Ok ---- I want you to understand that I am not spamming or trolling or doing what the fox says but here is a view.... It may sound harsh, but I think it is pretty close to the truth.


Tonight Philly was an embarrassment. Could this have been the worst night in franchise history?

How can Philly go out there and commit what is tantamount to the Oakland Seals. Could Emery have been more of a coward by fighting a goalie who did not want to fight? Way to go Hero!

I have never seen a team start a line brawl and get their asses handed to them.

And tonight history was made as Downie created the single best ever GIF file since a monkey peed in its own mouth. I have never seen a face being "rang" before but now I know it happens.

But hey, you were playing Ovie so the score was not that sur---- oh he sat out.... ok.

...and all for a loss by a converted touchdown at home and being shut out.

And good for you NHL.... looks like that rule about keeping Helmets on is working 100%!

Worst Game Ever.

That was a true a devastating punch. Hope he is ok but what an idiot taking on Volpatti. And good for Volpatti backing off.

Who they going to fire now? That bullet is out of the chamber.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 2 @ 3:50 AM ET
Emery was just showing his frustration on several matters. He does not want to be a back up, he does not like the team in front of him when he does play, he does not like to lose and all of above triggered him. I love Ray Emery and old man Snyder should turn Emery loose on his teamates and beat them into showing up for games. Seriously Ray is a battler and very competitive and he just snapped. No suspension forthcoming but he will be on a short rope with Lord Shanahan.
- flyerdude17



I am not sure about that. The other goalie said.... actually verbally.... said that he was not going to fight yet Hero Emery (Who I like by the way... in net) assaulted him. Emery's own postgame remarks said so.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:01 AM ET
TJ
New York Rangers
Location: PA
Joined: 11.27.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:15 AM ET
Why does the GM routinely do post game interviews and give injury reports? Are they afraid of Berube being politically incorrect? I realize the coach does answer a few questions but most organizations do not have the GM in this role. Any idea why Mr. Snider wants him there?
aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:56 AM ET

- Giroux_Is_God


Everything looks bad about the situation in Philly right now...

GM trying to be the show...
Coach that has already seemingly lost his players...
an owner like no other, and not in a good way...

Between the Flyers and Sabres, there seems to be no end
to the nightmare each fan base is going thru.

Flyers just lost 7-0 to the Caps, minus Ovechkin.
Maybe making a play at Liles, wouldn't be a bad thing.

Liles is desperate to get to the NHL, he might play hard an
entire 60 minutes, something your defense must need badly.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 2 @ 5:10 AM ET
Everything looks bad about the situation in Philly right now...

GM trying to be the show...
Coach that has already seemingly lost his players...
an owner like no other, and not in a good way...

Between the Flyers and Sabres, there seems to be no end
to the nightmare each fan base is going thru.

Flyers just lost 7-0 to the Caps, minus Ovechkin.
Maybe making a play at Liles, wouldn't be a bad thing.

Liles is desperate to get to the NHL, he might play hard an
entire 60 minutes, something your defense must need badly
.

- aries1976


good try
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Nov 2 @ 5:16 AM ET
good try

- jimbro83

Gotta give him points for trying
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 6:31 AM ET
I stayed away from the boards last night because of utter frustration, and I knew what it would be like. And rightfully so, they deserve all of the criticism they got. You could see some signs of progress being made under Berube. But there was obviously still lot's of work to do. But how you can go so completely backwards, to the have the bottom drop out like that, is mind boggling. That game, the 2nd period especially, was pathetic and embarrassing. It's one thing to compete and lose games just because you aren't that good of a team. But that game was beyond that. That game screamed to me, "we're not that good, and we don't give a poop about it". That's how bad that effort was. I was embarrassed to be a Flyers fan last night. Oh goodie, they decided to fight back and get into some fights! Too little, too late! Where was that fight when they truly needed it? I won't single out a single player for criticism, they were all bad. With the exception of the Goalies. This team talent wise is so much better. Well talent on paper isn't worth crap with that effort behind it. Fans are chanting "fire Holmgren". He is ultimately responsible, but how can the GM be responsible for that effort? That's all on the players. I'm disgusted. Rant over.
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:09 AM ET
Why the fuss over razor being barbaric ... Holtby is fine move on
- Chris48


With that logic Kaleta gets nothing for his hit on Jack Johnson. There's a reason there's a penalty for "intent to injure".

Nothing wrong with a fight. But that wasn't a fight. He willingly jumped a guy who said he didn't want to fight, didn't even let him get his gloves off, and Holtby fell to his knees a few times, and each time Emery took the opportunity to punch the back of Holtby's head.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Nov 2 @ 7:20 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/2/13 @ NJ Plus Flyers-Caps Post-Mortem
- bmeltzer

the bottom is coming, not there yet, enjoy the ride
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Nov 2 @ 7:22 AM ET
I stayed away from the boards last night because of utter frustration, and I knew what it would be like. And rightfully so, they deserve all of the criticism they got. You could see some signs of progress being made under Berube. But there was obviously still lot's of work to do. But how you can go so completely backwards, to the have the bottom drop out like that, is mind boggling. That game, the 2nd period especially, was pathetic and embarrassing. It's one thing to compete and lose games just because you aren't that good of a team. But that game was beyond that. That game screamed to me, "we're not that good, and we don't give a poop about it". That's how bad that effort was. I was embarrassed to be a Flyers fan last night. Oh goodie, they decided to fight back and get into some fights! Too little, too late! Where was that fight when they truly needed it? I won't single out a single player for criticism, they were all bad. With the exception of the Goalies. This team talent wise is so much better. Well talent on paper isn't worth crap with that effort behind it. Fans are chanting "fire Holmgren". He is ultimately responsible, but how can the GM be responsible for that effort? That's all on the players. I'm disgusted. Rant over.
- MJL


lol
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 2 @ 7:48 AM ET
Love these Pens fans coming out of the woodwork to whine about Emery and hope "someone takes him out". I make no excuse for what Emery did, it was definitely wrong. But as a Pens fan wishing that you have to equally be ok with "someone taking out" Malkin. Cant have it both ways.
- hereticpride

sure you can. you can abandon your crappy team for 10 years and make your hall of fame player-turned-owner beg the state for money to keep the team in your fetid, frontrunner city; then when they're good again you can come back and pretend like you've been there all along and throw your opinion around like you actually give a ____ about the sport.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 2 @ 7:51 AM ET
I don't want anyone to take him out. He's worked hard to get to where he is now, not sure why he would pull some bs like this and essentially revert back.

But, if Emery ever plays a game against the Capitals again this year, which seems likely, you can bet your ass Wilson, Chimera, Volpatti, and possibly Oleksy will be looking to rattle him all game.

- Blackstrom2

oh, like crashing the net and knocking his mask off with a 6-0 lead in the third? real classy moves there.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 2 @ 7:56 AM ET
And the ref that called players to stay away and just watched as Emery pounded him in the back of the head needs to be suspended as well.
- carcus

can you take the sign from your avatar and get someone to hit you over the head with it reaally hard?......thanks, and goodbye
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Nov 2 @ 8:02 AM ET
I stayed away from the boards last night because of utter frustration, and I knew what it would be like. And rightfully so, they deserve all of the criticism they got. You could see some signs of progress being made under Berube. But there was obviously still lot's of work to do. But how you can go so completely backwards, to the have the bottom drop out like that, is mind boggling. That game, the 2nd period especially, was pathetic and embarrassing. It's one thing to compete and lose games just because you aren't that good of a team. But that game was beyond that. That game screamed to me, "we're not that good, and we don't give a poop about it". That's how bad that effort was. I was embarrassed to be a Flyers fan last night. Oh goodie, they decided to fight back and get into some fights! Too little, too late! Where was that fight when they truly needed it? I won't single out a single player for criticism, they were all bad. With the exception of the Goalies. This team talent wise is so much better. Well talent on paper isn't worth crap with that effort behind it. Fans are chanting "fire Holmgren". He is ultimately responsible, but how can the GM be responsible for that effort? That's all on the players. I'm disgusted. Rant over.
- MJL



X2

schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Nov 2 @ 8:02 AM ET
sure you can. you can abandon your crappy team for 10 years and make your hall of fame player-turned-owner beg the state for money to keep the team in your fetid, frontrunner city; then when they're good again you can come back and pretend like you've been there all along and throw your opinion around like you actually give a ____ about the sport.
- hogweed


How are the sixers doing attendance wise the last few years? And what about the phillies? Down 20 percent since the World Series win. Every city is a front runner city.

And I don't need to go into the claims of 10 years of abandonment being far more than the actual. Or the incredibly high number of teams in all sports to receive public money for buildings.

But the least you could do is properly reference Mario. Just to refer to him as a hall of famer isn't showing enough respect. Legend should be used. He deserves that distinction over the likes of guys like say Joe Nieuwendyk
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Nov 2 @ 8:05 AM ET


I also hate this "they are better on paper then how they are playing on the ice" or " they are better then what their record reflects"

I have heard this nonsense for 2 years!!!

No they arent! They are what their record says they are.



PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 2 @ 8:11 AM ET
(frank) Emery. What a greaseball. Not only jumped Holtby but pummelled him in the back of the head when he was going down. Someone should two-hand him in the hip and put him out of the league. Complete joke.
- jimithing

It was almost as cheap as a Malkin or NEal elbow.at least holtby had a chance to defend himself. Begone troll!
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