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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:42 PM ET
Jeez Read. WTF?
- MBFlyerfan

seriously i think he's goign to sit the rest of the game
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:42 PM ET
Matt Read has three times as many PIM as he did Last year in 42 games...and half of his rookie year total
- Jsaquella


Press box on Tuesday
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 2 @ 7:42 PM ET
The other option was probably few minutes on the 4th line, I don't mind the move.
- ob18


Close call. The question would be is he good enough to package another forward to help the D. I guess waiting a year isn't the worst thing.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Nov 2 @ 7:43 PM ET
They've been playing this period...last night was rock bottom, without a doubt.

We'll see if they have any backbone if/when New Jersey scores.

- AllInForFlyers

watching them is like being on versed compared to some of the best teams in the league...i dunno
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 2 @ 7:43 PM ET
Who gets the "inciting" penalty tonight?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
Close call. The question would be is he good enough to package another forward to help the D. I guess waiting a year isn't the worst thing.
- jstross


No, keep him. There isn't a D man out there that they could afford like that to help. The cost would probably hurt them more than it would ever help.

Stop that madness
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
all in all, not a bad period.

for the most part they were pretty good at clearing their own zone, something they've struggled at mightily against the Devils in recent years.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
What was the point of asking the question if you were just going to dismiss the answer as being irrelevant in the long term?
- Flyers_01


I didn't dismiss anything. The point of asking the question was in response to a post that was made that scratching Schenn wasn't going to help him. I contend that it could.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Nov 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
Who gets the "inciting" penalty tonight?
- jmatchett383


I think Raffl is ready to blow his top
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Nov 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
He's gonna look good in Florida after they trade him for Versteeg
- Jsaquella





AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
I think Laughton will be a Flyer. The question is will Couturier or B. Schenn, because those two will have had their shot...and Laughton can have that roster spot.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Nov 2 @ 7:45 PM ET
He's gonna look good in Florida after they trade him for Versteeg
- Jsaquella

apparently, it'll happen by osmosis
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Nov 2 @ 7:46 PM ET
I think Laughton will be a Flyer. The question is will Couturier or B. Schenn, because those two will have had their shot...and Laughton can have that roster spot.
- AllInForFlyers

both couts and schenn will likely peak w/in the nxt 100-150 gms, so prepare for some pain...or not
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 2 @ 7:48 PM ET
No, keep him. There isn't a D man out there that they could afford like that to help. The cost would probably hurt them more than it would ever help.

Stop that madness

- ob18


Misunderstanding. My question was Laughton good enough so that the Flyers could package a young forward (B. Schenn who doesn't impress me) for a top 4 puck moving Dman. I certainly would hold all young players unless there was equal value coming back. No panic here.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:49 PM ET
Good first period. Limit chances to the opposition. Go to the net, get traffic in front of the Goalie, and get the puck to the net, and get a goal. Interesting concept.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:49 PM ET
Misunderstanding. My question was Laughton good enough so that the Flyers could package a young forward (B. Schenn who doesn't impress me) for a top 4 puck moving Dman. I certainly would hold all young players unless there was equal value coming back. No panic here.
- jstross


It's possible, I think the cost will still be too high & hurt them more than help.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Nov 2 @ 7:49 PM ET
Misunderstanding. My question was Laughton good enough so that the Flyers could package a young forward (B. Schenn who doesn't impress me) for a top 4 puck moving Dman. I certainly would hold all young players unless there was equal value coming back. No panic here.
- jstross


If Flyers are going to trade for any D-man, especially if they trade any of the youngsters is better be for a true #1 Dman. I dont want the JVR for Schenn debacle again.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 2 @ 7:50 PM ET
both couts and schenn will likely peak w/in the nxt 100-150 gms, so prepare for some pain...or not
- isaiah520


I'd keep Couturier...I've said it before. But if B. Schenn doesn't look like he can hold this thing down in the middle, then really, what are we waiting for, you know?

You can move Couturier up to 2C and give Laughton his shot at 3C.

We can't keep everybody on a team that looks like this one does, far too often, you know? After last night, every single game should be an audition for every single guy on the freaking roster.

Teams that quit on coaches, quit on their teammates in front of their own fans...these guys should be auditioning every single night simply not to get scratched, in my opinion.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Nov 2 @ 7:51 PM ET
good for berube starting emery tonight, I cannot believe how many took the sissy stance on emery pounding holtby, its hockey and tempers flair...he should have been a man/hockey player and defended himself, I remember when pitkenen got beat up like that he was traded the next day

that was the most exciting thing I saw all year...poor holtby got his a$$ kicked and he didn't want to fight bbboooo hooooo, its friggin hockey

the nhl is becoming sissified
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Nov 2 @ 7:52 PM ET
I'd keep Couturier...I've said it before. But if B. Schenn doesn't look like he can hold this thing down in the middle, then really, what are we waiting for, you know?

You can move Couturier up to 2C and give Laughton his shot at 3C.

We can't keep everybody on a team that looks like this one does, far too often, you know? After last night, every single game should be an audition for every single guy on the freaking roster.

Teams that quit on coaches, quit on their teammates in front of their own fans...these guys should be auditioning every single night simply not to get scratched, in my opinion.

- AllInForFlyers


And when your draft philosophy is BPA, and 7/8 times BPA is a forward.... at some point you have to trade forwards for defensemen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:53 PM ET


Teams that quit on coaches, quit on their teammates in front of their own fans...these guys should be auditioning every single night simply not to get scratched, in my opinion.

- AllInForFlyers


I agree wholeheatedly. That's why I like what Berube did for this game. Compete for playing time.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:54 PM ET
good for berube starting emery tonight, I cannot believe how many took the sissy stance on emery pounding holtby, its hockey and tempers flair...he should have been a man/hockey player and defended himself, I remember when pitkenen got beat up like that he was traded the next day

that was the most exciting thing I saw all year...poor holtby got his a$$ kicked and he didn't want to fight bbboooo hooooo, its friggin hockey

the nhl is becoming sissified

- mydoglicks

Emery probably would have had tonight's start either way. 2nd game of a back to back, and Mason has been playing a helluva lot.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 2 @ 7:54 PM ET
So far, so good
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 2 @ 7:55 PM ET
And when your draft philosophy is BPA, and 7/8 times BPA is a forward.... at some point you have to trade forwards for defensemen.
- eayost


Exactly.

Last night was rock bottom. I've never...last night was as bad as it gets. Nobody gets to walk around this team right now calling themselves "the future."

Maybe your future is with another franchise so we can get some different players on this roster, you know?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Nov 2 @ 7:57 PM ET
I'd keep Couturier...I've said it before. But if B. Schenn doesn't look like he can hold this thing down in the middle, then really, what are we waiting for, you know?

You can move Couturier up to 2C and give Laughton his shot at 3C.

We can't keep everybody on a team that looks like this one does, far too often, you know? After last night, every single game should be an audition for every single guy on the freaking roster.

Teams that quit on coaches, quit on their teammates in front of their own fans...these guys should be auditioning every single night simply not to get scratched, in my opinion.

- AllInForFlyers

i agree, but there should be no sacred cows.

but the main thing to remember is that any type of transaction that turns out well for the flyers was made by homer. any that do not were made by the other GM, Oz Mossis. i just learned that today
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