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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 2 @ 4:24 PM ET
Interesting...Dave Isaac appears to be wondering if Hal Gill might be in tonight, though no one has announced anything.
- AllInForFlyers


Gill probably in for L. Schenn. Mobility upgrade.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
Flyers trending on Facebook
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
Yes in a secondary scoring role he's amazing.
- JoeRussomanno


In the 11/12 NHL Season, Giroux scored 93 points in the regular Season. And 12 points in 11 playoff games. Was he in a secondary scoring role that Season?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
Gill probably in for L. Schenn. Mobility upgrade.
- PLindbergh31

That's another Ayer they waited 8 years too long to get.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
I guess Dan Carrillo should be in the hall too I mean he was on altar team and win the cup a couple years later with Chicago

- JoeRussomanno


Really?

Future first ballot hall of fame and one of the top dmen to ever play, was 34 and coming off a 48 point season.

Anyone with any common sense makes that trade every day of the week.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:26 PM ET
Really?

Future first ballot hall of fame and one of the top dmen to ever play, was 34 and coming off a 48 point season.

Anyone with any common sense makes that trade every day of the week.

- opeth_pa

Yes cause everyone needs their ltir quota filled with overage players.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 2 @ 4:26 PM ET
i said we should have claimed ellerby
- 2Real

and you were definitely right about that.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
Really he played 48 playoff games?
- JoeRussomanno


My bad..when 2Real asked how many last year I thought he meant last season.
Because you know the playoffs hinge on one player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
As always, Holmgren has won a trade. He's a genius!

As I said, laughing stocks of the NHL

- PLindbergh31


The Flyers current record this Season, has zero to do with Downie and the post you made.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
In the 11/12 NHL Season, Giroux scored 93 points in the regular Season. And 12 points in 11 playoff games. Was he in a secondary scoring role that Season?
- MJL

uh this is the 13/14 season bro
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:28 PM ET
Really?

Future first ballot hall of fame and one of the top dmen to ever play, was 34 and coming off a 48 point season.

Anyone with any common sense makes that trade every day of the week.

- opeth_pa


That trade was a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:28 PM ET
Really he played 48 playoff games?
- JoeRussomanno

he'll play 48 this season after we trade him to colorado for landeskog
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:28 PM ET
uh this is the 13/14 season bro
- 2Real


Good point..12 games is way more indicative of the quality of a player then 3-4 seasons are.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:28 PM ET
In the 11/12 NHL Season, Giroux scored 93 points in the regular Season. And 12 points in 11 playoff games. Was he in a secondary scoring role that Season?
- MJL

He quietly put up meaningless points... I don't mean to be brash but it is what it is. When they signed him last offseason I said he wouldn't live up to that contract... An 8th of the way into the season and so far he has a stupid injury and no goals.. He's over rated.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:28 PM ET
Yes cause everyone needs their ltir quota filled with overage players.
- JoeRussomanno


Whose fault is it that Pronger took a stick to the eye, and suffered a career ending injury?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:29 PM ET
Good point..12 games is way more indicative of the quality of a player then 3-4 seasons are.
- opeth_pa

ok danny heatley
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:29 PM ET
he'll play 48 this season after we trade him to colorado for landeskog
- 2Real


Landeskog and Talbot and Im on board!!!
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:29 PM ET
He wasn't still in his prime. That trade burnt us
- JoeRussomanno

that was absolutely a great trade for the Flyers at the time ... although obviously Pronger being hurt changes the perspective. But at the time he was exactly what the Flyers needed.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 2 @ 4:29 PM ET
Gill probably in for L. Schenn. Mobility upgrade.
- PLindbergh31


It's too bad that Luke Schenn has to clear waivers to be sent down.

Before anybody takes my head off, I'm not saying "I hate Luke Schenn" or "I think he's an AHL player" or "He can never help us."

He's just a player right now who looks like he could use a couple of weeks down there playing massive minutes, while working with Terry Murray -- who is one of the best teachers of defensemen I think the Flyers have ever had -- so he can get his game in order.

You can't do that at the NHL level, and in this case, what Schenn needs, to me, is to play a huge amount of minutes and then get some strong technical instruction.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:29 PM ET
That trade was a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.
- MJL

Pronger brain might beg to differ.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
that was absolutely a great trade for the Flyers at the time ... although obviously Pronger being hurt changes the perspective. But at the time he was exactly what the Flyers needed.
- FlyerGuy

They put way too many eggs in one basket.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
It's too bad that Luke Schenn has to clear waivers to be sent down.

Before anybody takes my head off, I'm not saying "I hate Luke Schenn" or "I think he's an AHL player" or "He can never help us."

He's just a player right now who looks like he could use a couple of weeks down there playing massive minutes, while working with Terry Murray -- who is one of the best teachers of defensemen I think the Flyers have ever had -- so he can get his game in order.

You can't do that at the NHL level, and in this case, what Schenn needs, to me, is to play a huge amount of minutes and then get some strong technical instruction.

- AllInForFlyers

he never got that in the number of seasons he played in toronto?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
ok danny heatley
- 2Real



Another good point..
32 year old Danny Heatley
compared to
25 year old Claude Giroux.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 4:31 PM ET
He quietly put up meaningless points... I don't mean to be brash but it is what it is. When they signed him last offseason I said he wouldn't live up to that contract... An 8th of the way into the season and so far he has a stupid injury and no goals.. He's over rated.
- JoeRussomanno



and you base his 55 playoff points as meaningless on what?
You base is regular season points as meaningless on what?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 4:32 PM ET
Another good point..
32 year old Danny Heatley
compared to
25 year old Claude Giroux.

- opeth_pa

heatley hasn't been elite since 06-07 do the math
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