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hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
How was Giroux' play?

What is going on?

- spatso

just another white cap on an endless sea of mediocrity
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
How was Giroux' play?

What is going on?

- spatso

Who?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 2 @ 2:46 PM ET
Do the Flyers think about dealing Giroux and everyone taking a fresh start.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 2:47 PM ET
Do the Flyers think about dealing Giroux and everyone taking a fresh start.
- spatso

sure giroux for JVR kessel and phaneuf
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
Do the Flyers think about dealing Giroux and everyone taking a fresh start.
- spatso

I'm sure they think about it. They think about every possibility. A lot of people here might call for it to happen now, but if it did, they'd do nothing but female dog about it for the next few years. I love G, but I wouldn't be opposed just cause of the amazing return we'd get from it.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 2 @ 2:49 PM ET
cruel, they just haven't met you
- ob18



yeah you missed a good time on here this morning
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 2 @ 2:50 PM ET
yeah you missed a good time on here this morning
- nastyflyergirl


No I didn't. I've learned no matter how they play to just turn the page & not let it bother me.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Nov 2 @ 2:52 PM ET
How was Giroux' play?

What is going on?

- spatso

G continues his Perimeter Pete act...
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 2 @ 2:52 PM ET
I'm sure they think about it. They think about every possibility. A lot of people here might call for it to happen now, but if it did, they'd do nothing but female dog about it for the next few years. I love G, but I wouldn't be opposed just cause of the amazing return we'd get from it.
- JAKEw1234


I have followed Giroux all through his junior career and beyond. I just can't figure out what is going on. But you can't let it continue without some kind of intervention for fear it might not ever get reversed.

A trade might be best for everyone.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 2 @ 2:53 PM ET
I'm sure they think about it. They think about every possibility. A lot of people here might call for it to happen now, but if it did, they'd do nothing but female dog about it for the next few years. I love G, but I wouldn't be opposed just cause of the amazing return we'd get from it.
- JAKEw1234

just curious.....what would be a good enough return for trading giroux? i'm not saying i'd trade him or want him gone, but if they did....
i think a top 6 fwd, a top 4 d and a 1st rd pick.
what do you all think?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 2 @ 2:53 PM ET
Do the Flyers think about dealing Giroux and everyone taking a fresh start.
- spatso

No ... They love overpaid players that don't perform.... Broke their heart to buyout bryzgalov...
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 2 @ 2:54 PM ET
Lecavalier is 6"4" 220, and he got his skull tap danced on by big bad Steve Olesky 6'0" 190. Embarrassing.
- PLindbergh31

I'm not tootin my horn, I'm the same messurables as Olensky and have taken down bigger guys, hell, look at Simmonds. Vinny is not slouch, he got caught, it happens. Bigger is not always better

Ps tat what makes me laugh about the underwear model line
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 2:55 PM ET
at least holtby didn't run like a girl and slash people like kessel
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 2 @ 2:55 PM ET
Would Ottawa and the Flyers do Giroux for Bobby Ryan allowing two hometown boys to go home?
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Nov 2 @ 2:56 PM ET
I have followed Giroux all through his junior career and beyond. I just can't figure out what is going on. But you can't let it continue without some kind of intervention for fear it might not ever get reversed.

A trade might be best for everyone.

- spatso




I still think his hands screwed up but really have nothing to base that on other than watching him flex it in warm ups when I was there. I hope there isn't nerve damage. If he is still hurt I would hope they just shut him down to heal, this season is a lost cause it seems.
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Nov 2 @ 2:59 PM ET
Would Ottawa and the Flyers do Giroux for Bobby Ryan allowing two hometown boys to go home?
- spatso




Great question. Now that is a trade I would look into. Probably the only trade involving G.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
just curious.....what would be a good enough return for trading giroux? i'm not saying i'd trade him or want him gone, but if they did....
i think a top 6 fwd, a top 4 d and a 1st rd pick.
what do you all think?

- hogweed

The rumor over the summer (That I thought was too good to be true) was apparently Giroux to Florida for Markstrom, Brian Campbell (with 2-3mil retained on his cap hit), a 2013 1st round pick (Seth Jones), a 2014 1st round pick, and I think another pick/prospect or 2. I would've loved that trade.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
Would Ottawa and the Flyers do Giroux for Bobby Ryan allowing two hometown boys to go home?
- spatso


Giroux has struggled, but he isnt Hemsky.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
Would Ottawa and the Flyers do Giroux for Bobby Ryan allowing two hometown boys to go home?
- spatso

I wouldn't do that trade in sorry that is a clear win for Ottawa. If I'm trading Giroux it's for jones forsberg a 1 st from nashville
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
The rumor over the summer (That I thought was too good to be true) was apparently Giroux to Florida for Markstrom, Brian Campbell (with 2-3mil retained on his cap hit), a 2013 1st round pick (Seth Jones), a 2014 1st round pick, and I think another pick/prospect or 2. I would've loved that trade.
- JAKEw1234

Where did you hear this? Lol
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 2 @ 3:05 PM ET
Where did you hear this? Lol
- PhillaBully

Someone in here posted it a while ago
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Nov 2 @ 3:11 PM ET
Someone in here posted it a while ago
- JAKEw1234

Lol I wouldn't call it a bonafied rumor then... Lol people post crazy poop in here all the time
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Nov 2 @ 3:14 PM ET
I blame Comcast for everything wrong in Flyerland.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 3:17 PM ET
Snider=Jerry Jones, I don't think an outside guy would want the job.
- fsanford


More like Al Davis. But your point is spot on.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Nov 2 @ 3:20 PM ET
This is such a meltdown I cant believe it. I think Lukko has to step in if hes not a merely a Snider corporate apologist company man and clean the mess up on his asset which is degrading and looks to lose a huge amount of money given the buyouts and two years without playoffs.

This is the second or third year in a row Giroux has had hand problems. Anyone remember his wrists being screwed after the 2012 playoffs as well ???
To be truthful I would trade him if reasonable depth value could be gotten. Of course which GM would you trust not to screw up the deal. I fear his hands will never recover or will take years. That brings this to mind-Does anyone remember the former Flyer ( was it Scott Mellanby ?) lawsuit over non hockey injuries to his hand or arms where he lost some use and sued for the potential loss of income due to limited abilities ??

The last time the team was this bad (06-07 and they were not this bad in the same way) I was friendly with someone in hockey operations with another NHL team and became a fan of theirs for the year. This year is much worse.
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