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schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:02 PM ET
Correct, Weber makes 20 million or more, through 2017-18
http://capgeek.com/player/1042

- tomburton99


Do the math. That's impossible. It's a contract for a total of 104. How can he make more than 20 a year for 6 years? thats 120 million
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 2 @ 12:02 PM ET
I haven't actually seen the video, so I'm wondering why Vinny was out there. Did this thing start spontaneously, or did both sides know the dance was about to start?

Vinny was playing well, no?

That's going to hurt if he is out.

- Atomic Wedgie


It was pretty spontaneous..

http://video.nhl.com/vide...474019&navid=nhl:topheads
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 2 @ 12:04 PM ET
I'm not criticizing the spending of money - half of all things I own have a Leafs logo on it (line from Fever Pitch: "it's like you live in the Red Sox' gift shop.")

I just find it weird to have three of the same guy...

- Atomic Wedgie


I really like him!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 2 @ 12:04 PM ET
WOW, Penguin trolls are in full force in here today. No matter how much I dislike that team and its players. when they are playing poorly or on a losing streak etc, I can't find it in me to click on their forums and talk trash...What does it prove, it must make you penguin fans feel so great to go to other fourms and talk useless poop...

I salute you all

Clap Clap Clap Clap

- Buzzo


You've got it all wrong -- they "just want to talk hockey." They're just fans of the sport, not trolls, who are deeply wounded by Ray Emery's actions against a team they don't root for and, spirits crushed forever by a line brawl, are merely looking for a place to bare their souls, cleanse their minds, and renew their passion for the sport.

They just happened to wind up here.

Miracle of miracles, right?

If it was me, I'd show a little backbone and just say, "Yeah, I pretty much hate your franchise. I loved watching you guys get rolled."

At least you can respect that. Not that whiny, passive-aggressive "I just want to talk hockey" crap.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
Yep, 14 million total, 13 in the form of a bonus, 1 million salary. If you think its' 14 million salary plus 13 signing bonus for a total of 27 million this year you're dumb. Because that would mean 108 million over the first 4, and 178 million total. Which would be weird because the deal is only worth 104 total, over 14 years. Also, that would throw the AAV and cap hit well beyond 7.8.
- schiefer466

i was adding the salary and the bonus. i think you're right.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
Do the math. That's impossible. It's a contract for a total of 104. How can he make more than 20 a year for 6 years? thats 120 million
- schiefer466

The contract 110 million. Says it right their. Look again.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 34s

Sabres have put Patrick Kaleta on waivers

GID Homey Da Clown. Need a replacement for Downie!
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Nov 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
Most of the reasons groceries cost more isn't because of inflation. It's over regulation of farms etc.

On top of the that, the cost of fuel has sky rocketed over the last 6 years etc.

This isn't a knock on either political party. They both suck and they both work together to screw the people.

- Flyersgod




A weakening US dollar is the cause for all that was mentioned. But I agree both suck
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:06 PM ET
The contract 110 million. Says it right their. Look again.
- tomburton99


None the less. You're math means he gets 120 over the first 6. So he makes -10 million of the last 8 years? Don't think the PA would go for that.
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:07 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 34s

Sabres have put Patrick Kaleta on waivers

GID Homey Da Clown. Need a replacement for Downie!

- PLindbergh31


Can You do that during a suspension? Thought it was similar to IR where you have to wait for them to come back. Guess not.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 2 @ 12:09 PM ET
A weakening US dollar is the cause for all that was mentioned. But I agree both suck
- aosplayo


Or was the dollar weakened because of all that? Who knows anymore...
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:10 PM ET
i was adding the salary and the bonus. i think you're right.
- hogweed


I am. But that huge bonus was part of my point about him not being traded, except possibly in the offseason before the next bonus comes in. But once they write that check he's cemented in until the season is over.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Nov 2 @ 12:11 PM ET
How the heck do you let



go without comment, but get mad when someone calls Emery a "turd" and then agrees with what many other Flyers fans are saying, that Emery deserves a suspension?

- Antilles


http://en.wikipedia.org/w...tanford_prison_experiment
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:11 PM ET
Correct, Weber makes 20 million or more, through 2017-18
http://capgeek.com/player/1042

- tomburton99

no, the salary column includes the bonus ... you can't add them twice.
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:13 PM ET
no, the salary column includes the bonus ... you can't add them twice.
- FlyerGuy


exactly, simple math would show that if you add them together Weber makes more than 120 million in 4 years. Which again, for a deal worth less than 120 million should send up some red flags.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:13 PM ET
Can You do that during a suspension? Thought it was similar to IR where you have to wait for them to come back. Guess not.
- schiefer466

He would have to serve the rest of the suspension when/if recalled.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:15 PM ET
Please do not troll. Please do not feed the trolls. Please do not escalate.

Please read the full Code of Conduct and try to understand and apply it to your own actions. If you feel the actions of others are in violation, please hit the [!] button and await justice from a roaming mod.

Thank you.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Nov 2 @ 12:18 PM ET
Please do not troll. Please do not feed the trolls. Please do not escalate.

Please read the full Code of Conduct and try to understand and apply it to your own actions. If you feel the actions of others are in violation, please hit the

- bodiva88[!] button and await justice from a roaming mod.

Thank you.


This wouldn't be an issue if you (all mods, especially some bloggers) weren't so arbitrary in your application of bans.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 2 @ 12:20 PM ET
This wouldn't be an issue if you (all mods, especially some bloggers) weren't so arbitrary in your application of bans.
- Blackstrom2


Stop crying (frank). You are in a Flyers board.

Dont like it? You have your own.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:22 PM ET
This wouldn't be an issue if you (all mods, especially some bloggers) weren't so arbitrary in your application of bans.
- Blackstrom2

nothing is perfect, but most of the mods do a good job ... bodiva especially.

and posters don't know what goes on behind the scenes, and whether someone is banned. They base their idea of whether a mod is doing a good job simply on what they see happening on their screen.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Nov 2 @ 12:22 PM ET
Stop crying (frank). You are in a Flyers board.

Dont like it? You have your own.

- flyer_nutter



I actually don't. Ben just posted one, but he hasn't in like a week and no one comments in his anyway. But, your comment really hits the point home...what does it matter what team forum it is? That should not change how a mod gives out bans supposedly based on a universal code of conduct.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 2 @ 12:22 PM ET
You've got it all wrong -- they "just want to talk hockey." They're just fans of the sport, not trolls, who are deeply wounded by Ray Emery's actions against a team they don't root for and, spirits crushed forever by a line brawl, are merely looking for a place to bare their souls, cleanse their minds, and renew their passion for the sport.

They just happened to wind up here.

Miracle of miracles, right?

If it was me, I'd show a little backbone and just say, "Yeah, I pretty much hate your franchise. I loved watching you guys get rolled."

At least you can respect that. Not that whiny, passive-aggressive "I just want to talk hockey" crap.

- AllInForFlyers

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 2 @ 12:23 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 34s

Sabres have put Patrick Kaleta on waivers

GID Homey Da Clown. Need a replacement for Downie!

- PLindbergh31


No, thank you
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
I actually don't. Ben just posted one, but he hasn't in like a week and no one comments in his anyway. But, your comment really hits the point home...what does it matter what team forum it is? That should not change how a mod gives out bans supposedly based on a universal code of conduct.
- Blackstrom2

I need help. If I respond to this is it feeding the troll?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
It's really easy not to get banned. Just don't be an bumhole. I don't know what's so complicated about that.
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