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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/2/13 @ NJ Plus Flyers-Caps Post-Mortem
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willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
My team is not winning
- mighty13duck

Hey. You're in playoff position.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
For an offensive d-man he really has a hard time getting that shot on net.
- flyer_nutter


I must admit, after blaming Carle for having his shots blocked all day long, I've come to the conclusion that the Flyers just don't play a style where they are in position to allow our Dmen to shoot. Our forwards need to get the other team out of position or get them moving to allow our dmen to get a shot through.

Instead our forwards skate into the ozone... stop skating... get mugged and throw the puck to the dman out of sheer panic... but the puck winds up going to their backhand and they're pressured by 2 players as soon as he touches the puck.

They're just not quick enough in anything they do.

That's what I think at least. Whether it's true or not, who knows. First period of the Anaheim game had me flying high and regaining hope... and in typical Philadelphia fashion they took that hope and shoved it down my throat, tied concrete blocks to my feet, and threw me in the river.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Nov 2 @ 11:07 AM ET
Hey. You're in playoff position.
- willschulme

Doesn't say much when you look at the metro.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
Emery can handle himself, I doubt there are any Caps players that can take him 1v1.
- Rocktane


Price vs Emery would be a heck of a goalie fight. Price is one tough customer.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
Ever break your collar bone playing hockey?
- Flyersgod



Dislocated my shoulder......strange question, why?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
Okay Flyers fans...your teAm stinks, my team stinks...is there a good fair deal to be made between the teams that make us both better?
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
Not sure if anyone mentioned but BTW Zajac out tonight, Josefson in in his place.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
any idea what that price tag is and when it becomes reasonable? they owe him nearly $80 million over the next 6 years (salary and deferred signing bonus) and they may entertain a trade to get into a better financial position. getting jones (and seeing him play at a high level already) makes this more likely, not less.
not saying he gets traded or we get him but the money is no joke to a small market team

- hogweed

I'm just wondering where the ½ of the fans are who hate Giroux right now. Everyone, including him, is disappointed with his play. But I don't think there is close to a majority who find him solely or even mostly responsible for this mess. And many of us still wonder if he was rushed back from surgery because it is unlike him to be this bad at faceoffs and we wonder if the hand isn't healed.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
Okay Flyers fans...your teAm stinks, my team stinks...is there a good fair deal to be made between the teams that make us both better?
- Jeropotato

Larsson for Couturier
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
40 C Vincent Lecavalier 9 5 2 7 -5 15 3 0 1 26 19.2
28 C Claude Giroux 12 0 6 6 -9 8 0 0 0 26 0.0
10 C Brayden Schenn 12 2 4 6 -5 20 1 0 0 23 8.7
32 D Mark Streit 12 0 4 4 -7 2 0 0 0 16 0.0
8 D Nicklas Grossmann 12 0 4 4 -2 12 0 0 0 11 0.0
93 R Jakub Voracek 12 1 3 4 -2 2 0 0 0 21 4.8
17 R Wayne Simmonds 12 1 3 4 -10 25 1 0 0 23 4.3
24 R Matt Read 12 3 1 4 -5 0 0 1 0 36 8.3
26 D Erik Gustafsson 6 1 2 3 -1 0 0 0 0 13 7.7

Grossman has the same amount of points as Voracek, Simmonds, and Read.

15 L Tye McGinn 4 3 0 3 0 4 0 0 0 7 42.9

McGinn and Gustafsson only playing 4/6 games a piece, and putting up points the rest of the team has put up in 12.

So frustrating!
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
Doesn't say much when you look at the metro.
- mighty13duck

It'll get better, I think.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
Okay Flyers fans...your teAm stinks, my team stinks...is there a good fair deal to be made between the teams that make us both better?
- Jeropotato

If there is, they'll find it. Rumors have been around for two weeks that they're talking.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
Okay Flyers fans...your teAm stinks, my team stinks...is there a good fair deal to be made between the teams that make us both better?
- Jeropotato


Yakupov and Smid for Simmonds, Coburn and a 3rd. Flyers assume the risk of Yakupov bolting for the KHL, which drives the asking price down.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:11 AM ET
Completely off topic... but does anyone here spend 500-700$ a month on groceries? I spend 200/mnth with a family of 3.

Was curious what others spend.

- Flyersgod

john goodman
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:11 AM ET
Not sure if anyone mentioned but BTW Zajac out tonight, Josefson in in his place.
- MannySilvers

Didn't know that. That's not good.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:11 AM ET
Dislocated my shoulder......strange question, why?
- nastyflyergirl


My brother played with a friend of his in high school.. he checked her one game and broke her collar bone or something. Was like 12 years ago.

Not many girls playing hockey with the guys, wasn't sure if it was you.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 2 @ 11:11 AM ET
40 C Vincent Lecavalier 9 5 2 7 -5 15 3 0 1 26 19.2
28 C Claude Giroux 12 0 6 6 -9 8 0 0 0 26 0.0
10 C Brayden Schenn 12 2 4 6 -5 20 1 0 0 23 8.7
32 D Mark Streit 12 0 4 4 -7 2 0 0 0 16 0.0
8 D Nicklas Grossmann 12 0 4 4 -2 12 0 0 0 11 0.0
93 R Jakub Voracek 12 1 3 4 -2 2 0 0 0 21 4.8
17 R Wayne Simmonds 12 1 3 4 -10 25 1 0 0 23 4.3
24 R Matt Read 12 3 1 4 -5 0 0 1 0 36 8.3
26 D Erik Gustafsson 6 1 2 3 -1 0 0 0 0 13 7.7

Grossman has the same amount of points as Voracek, Simmonds, and Read.

15 L Tye McGinn 4 3 0 3 0 4 0 0 0 7 42.9

McGinn and Gustafsson only playing 4/6 games a piece, and putting up points the rest of the team has put up in 12.

So frustrating!

- Flyersgod

I'm a big Gusty supporter, but that wave on what turned into a breakaway made me want to jump over the glass and shake him like a ragdoll.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 2 @ 11:11 AM ET
Okay Flyers fans...your teAm stinks, my team stinks...is there a good fair deal to be made between the teams that make us both better?
- Jeropotato


Im kind of tired of looking at the issues. They are too many, so looking to the future is probably a good thing.

Edmonton has some nice pieces and makes a good trading partner. I just want nothing to do with Yakupov. I dont care about the skill he has, for a kid to already have such big questions about maturity, effort and dedication...

Want nothing to do with him.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 11:12 AM ET
so, I didn't get a chance to see the game last night ... how did the boys look?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:13 AM ET
I'm a big Gusty supporter, but that wave on what turned into a breakaway made me want to jump over the glass and shake him like a ragdoll.
- bodiva88


I like the guy. I don't think he's ever going to be a top 6 dman, but I'd rather find out now. Let the guy play and lets see what he can do/learn.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 2 @ 11:13 AM ET
I'm just wondering where the ½ of the fans are who hate Giroux right now. Everyone, including him, is disappointed with his play. But I don't think there is close to a majority who find him solely or even mostly responsible for this mess. And many of us still wonder if he was rushed back from surgery because it is unlike him to be this bad at faceoffs and we wonder if the hand isn't healed.
- bodiva88


I wont stand by many, but will stand by Claude to the very end.

Same goes for Timonen. He has given his blood, sweat and soul to this team. Put in an unfair position far too often. Those two, I stand by.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:13 AM ET
so, I didn't get a chance to see the game last night ... how did the boys look?

- FlyerGuy

Fantastic.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Nov 2 @ 11:14 AM ET
I wont stand by many, but will stand by Claude to the very end.

Same goes for Timonen. He has given his blood, sweat and soul to this team. Put in an unfair position far too often. Those two, I stand by.

- flyer_nutter


I have 3 Giroux jersey's, so I'm not quitting on him. But I put the Flyers ahead of any player. If I had to choose between winning without him, or losing with him, i'm choosing to win without him.

Not saying that is what's going on... just my 2 cents on it.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 11:14 AM ET
Fantastic.
- willschulme

that's good to hear.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 11:16 AM ET
I wont stand by many, but will stand by Claude to the very end.

Same goes for Timonen. He has given his blood, sweat and soul to this team. Put in an unfair position far too often. Those two, I stand by.

- flyer_nutter

I love Timo ... but I honestly wish he would be scratched. He just can't skate worth a damn anymore.
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